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I'd like to join the game as Alessandra Sekút, speaker in the Commintern for the Neatly-Organized Mobile Autonomous Drifters Collective, also known as the NOMAD Collective, a non-state entity that started as an international coallition of EMTs, mechanics and architects and has quickly swelled with the addition of displaced peoples and refugees, working under the principles of mutual aid and freedom of movement. The large caravans of the NOMAD Collective bring help and resources to marginalized and castigated populations in the aftermath of the GRW. The discovery of TNE's has greatly expanded the tech and capacity of the roving Truckyards and MOHs (Mobile Orthogonal Housing), the greatest one being known as Roverhaus - Luna: BACD An autonomous organizing body is a right for Lunar Citizens, but it's clear that the Luna project has exceeded it's logistic expectations, so it should be monitored by the Comintern for a few years until more infraestructure is properly developed - Gladio: ABCD A soft and subtle approach is paramount, and, if we might be so bold, I recommend an implementation of the ACAB system the NOMADs use, where instead of a perennial police force each case gets assigned an ad-hoc team of professionals (coroners, psycologists, soldiers, anthropologists, etc.) under the authority of an elected security council - Survey Ships: A - Survey Priorities: CBA - S-17, Radiation Cleanup: Yes There are millions of people suffering from the wounds of the war - F-18, One Million Citizens Autonomy Requirement: Yes - F-19, A Ship Naming Scheme: Yes - JR-20, The No First Strike Policy: Yes - A-21, the Lunar Self-Defense Forces: Yes The Gladius incident has shown that violent reactionaries are present and active in the moon - S-22, Logistics Expansion: Yes Logistics are the veins of society - Y-23, the Constructed Language Study: No We don't want another vergonha
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2020 22:19 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 14:01 |
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Roverhaus bracing a Rad Storm in the North American Exclusion Area #3, while on an emergency re-supply mission to a Reclamation Project team
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2020 02:37 |
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Serf posted:What reasoning do we have for denying our Lunar comrades the right to self-organization? The arguments thus far seem particularly thin. Suppose we vote down their petition, where does that leave them? Will we send soldiers to Luna to enforce this decision? What if they decide to reject it? Will we have our first interplanetary conflict so early in this new era? We have seen that this Gladio organization, whatever it may be, is present in some form on the moon; this conflict would provide them with plenty of opportunities for further sabotage or even for recruitment. It seems to us that this is a dangerous precedent to set, both morally and strategically. We should also keep in mind that Lunar autonomy is not nationalistic in any sense since it's population has been on Luna for little more than a year. Lunar autonomy is the autonomy of its workers and citizens to organize themselves, not a pledge to sacred regolith
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2020 18:14 |
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PurpleXVI posted:I'm telling you all, going "gently gently" with fascist holdouts is just going to give them room to grow and fester. You'll be sorry for not listening to my genius some day. Military actions are extremely bad at catching terrorists, usually they just give them fodder. My suggested course of action is careful investigation on the specific attacks and improving the lives of people living under the wings of the Commintern, specially the most vulnerable and marginalized like the Naciremas. The second suggested course of action, for death cult fascists, is the firing squad
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2020 19:15 |
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A question for people familiar with the game system: What techs or designs would help in creating self-sustaining Craftworld-esque ships of 1 million+ pops. My guess is that would be at least mid-game tech but I want to start moving in that direction for the NOMAD Space Caravans. In the shorter term I'd like to know if a self sustaining caravan of several ships (of much less population than 1 million) would be even feasible
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2020 19:24 |
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The NOMAD Collective presents The Venera Initiative. The Martian dream is a burgeoise dream, our sights should be set on Venus: We already have information on the planet from the Venera Space Probes, we can find earth-like conditions in its upper atmosphere and it'd be much cheaper and quicker for habitation, exploration, research and mining purposes. Thus, we propose prioritizing Venus for surveys and lining up the research needed to set up orbital habitats in its upper atmosphere And while not a proposal per se, we beesech this chamber to continue the Socialist Aid Program, us NOMADs are in the field every day, and we know for a fact that the best defense against reactionary elements is proving that every citizen has the material and social support of the Comminern
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2020 23:40 |
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The NOMAD Collective votes as follows: Ship Prefixes: GB Research: BDCA Socialist Aid Program: ABC I-24: No A-25: Yes K-26: No F-27: Yes F-28: Yes F-29: Yes L-30: Yes I-31: No H-32: Yes N-33: Yes N-34: Yes S-35: No A-36: Yes A-37: Yes
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2020 23:21 |
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The NOMAD Collective says: Hold Do a low orbit/aerial pass, take plenty of pictures and sensor readings but let's prepare an International Team of Action Archeologists to do a proper on-site survey and send them as soon as possible. We have NOMAD experts ready and willing to go This changes everything
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2020 01:01 |
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Since Venus has some TNEs I'll be proposing the Venera Initiative again next commintern session, better worded as not to conflict with other tech initiatives. I'm also thinking about proposing the development and construction of mining ships to start farming those asteroids, unless that's already in the pipeline
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2020 07:27 |
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Asterite34 posted:The signal in the North Sea could be a problem. If it turns out to be the Revenge or some other NATO remnant nuclear submarine, then it might be something of a "Dead Man's Switch," with orders to fire a nuclear payload if it goes without regular check-ins, an insurance policy if the rest of the organization is hopelessly dismantled. We have a surveillance advantage at the moment, but if we tip our hand too early, even with a simultaneous coordinated raid on every identified likely Gladio site, it could be disastrous. However, if we wait too long, Gladio might find out about FESTER and decide to burn all their compromised assets, and us, in nuclear fire. We need to find and neutralize that mobile signal. Is there a way for us to research an anti-missile, planet-wide defense system that could help us destroy potential NATO/Israeli/Japanese nukes before they reach their intended targets?
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2020 18:47 |
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Veloxyll posted:The Extraplanetary Discovery Focus Act The NOMAD Collective Seconds this proposal We also present again, the Venera Initiative 2.0, research the technologies needed for habitation and mining operations in Venusian CloudSpace/low orbit and start these mining colonies when the technologies are researched. As not to fight with other research proposals, the number of labs needed for this can be negotiated with them
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2020 00:10 |
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NewMars posted:The UAWR would like to propose the Trans-newtonian Global Network Project. The NOMAD Collective seconds this proposal, we gotta keep the world moving
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2020 01:13 |
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Also, not sure if this qualifies as a proposal, but We suggest that all out xeno-archeology, xeno-antropology and xeno-biology efforts should be linked under a new supranational agency called the Xeno-Studies for Cosmic Ontological Materialism or X-COM, a peaceful intitiative seeking to understand other forms of life in the universe
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2020 05:01 |
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zanni posted:Greetings from the Cascadian Workers Collective, happy to finally be working with you all! I've spent the last week studying the legislative archives after being appointed the representative of the CWC and look forward to taking part in our shared future! The NOMAD Collective seconds this proposal. Opposing it under concerns that the daughters and sons of the colonizers will be treated as the colonized were (and are) treated misunderstands the purpose of socialist organization. They are all comrades and workers and historical reparations wont come from the pockets or labour of the white workers but from the assets seized from the capitalist class first and by just and equitative distribution of good and services later on
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2020 23:10 |
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ooc: Decolonization would mostly apply to places that have been colonized by white european polities from the 15th to the 19th century is my guess, with specific exceptions like Saami people in Finland or colonizalist japanese projects in the late 19th and early 20th century. If this proposal passes our fictional commintern has the resources to deal with the process with nuance, since, for instance, decolonizing a majority mestizo, quechua and aymaran countries in southamerica is a different process than dealing with regions where the original population was displaced and the majority are the descendants of the colonizers. Decolonization is a complex process even in countries like mine (Perú) where we are theoretically decolonized since 200 years ago but we still carry a lot of their wounds and we are only recently seeing some active decolonization processes like empowering local languages besides spanish, recognizing native sovereinigty and customs and trying to descentralize, which is an ardous process with pushback because racism/classism/centralism but in Aurora LP we can do it better and faster
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2020 03:27 |
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zanni posted:There have been some good points raised, along with some.. exaggerated responses.. but I think, on reflection... parts of my proposal and the logic behind them was flawed. HiHo ChiRho, thatbastardken, and Rubix Squid especially raise valid points. In case it's needed, the NOMAD Collective seconds this proposal
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2020 05:31 |
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It seems some of my comrades are not familiar with processes of decolonization. Decolonization is, above all, not "flipping the omelette" and having the former privilege groups become a new underclass, it's about open dialogue between the people who live and work in a community, city or region about how they see themselves, how they see their past and their future. This dialogue involves the colonized native groups, the groups displaced by force or capitalist predatory economies, and the historically privileged groups, since they are part of the community too. The reach of decolonization depends on the composition of the communities. In countries in south america, where indigenous majorities were exploited under the spanish and then white national elites, decolonization will seek to elevate local languages and bridge political and educational gaps, among other things, so the republics are ruled, truly and for the first time, under the will of their people. On the other hand, in places like the former United States, decolonization might imply symbolic and material reparations in money and land to tribal nations, recognition of sovereignty in the places where they live and work, and joint decision making alongside the diasporic communities in the USA, like african-americans, asian-americans, latines and people from north africa and the middle east, and the white settlers themselves that live in those regions. It is a dialogue, not a fight, and I agree that it is not something that should be imposed from the top down. I'd suggest that the decolonization initiative should be helmed by a international commission of experts that will work with the communities themselves, who will keep a keen eye on the historical situation so as to keep the process fair for everyone. They will assist the communities to find their best way to start the process of decolonizing themselves, under the guiding hand of the comintern. Let's remember that colonization itself is a product of mercantilism and capitalism, and we need to get rid of its artifacts before we can truly declare ourselves a world spanning socialist commune. Pacho fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Nov 13, 2020 |
# ¿ Nov 13, 2020 07:01 |
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The NOMAD Collective votes: SK-38, Expand Interkosmos Academy YES SK-39, Repeal Five-Year Plans YES HC-40, Integrate North America YES S-41, Research and Deploy Spying Technology YES A-42, Surveil the Mars Ruins YES JR-43, The Extraplanetary Focus Discovery Act YES I-44, Administrative Overhaul YES I-45, Diplomatic Overtures YES P-46, Venera Initiative 2.0 YES NM-47, the Trans-Newtonian Global Network Project YES F-48, Organizational Capacity YES F-49, Long-Term Research Efficiency YES P-50, X-COM YES Z-51, IRPA YES I-52, Armed Spacecraft Development NO W-53, Lunplan Expansion YES W-54, Medals YES W-55, Rename the Comintern YES H-56, More Medals YES
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2020 02:57 |
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Despite asking only the minimun office-space for research into low orbital habitats in Venus the Commintern has again failed the NOMAD nation. I hope the space created by this lack of initiative is not seized by Hawaii or other reactionary powers, eager to capitalize on the new materials and colonization opportunities
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2020 18:05 |
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Asterite34 posted:Specifically, the stuff that goes into engines. Engines need it, good engines need a lot of it, good engines with a low thermal signature need a WHOLE lot of it The NOMAD Collective this
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2020 23:03 |
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Maybe the former US deciphered a lot more that it seemed from the alien ship and that's how Gladio's still a step ahead of us. I don't know if that has any connecton with the Cydonia thing but we might be looking at the actual first extraterrestial human colony if the facility/aliens have been snatching people for a while. No matter of they are humans or aliens, it's time for a rescue mission and a welcome commitee in the comintern, the NOMAD first responder teams are ready
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2020 17:49 |
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If there's people in these base, either human or alien, they must be greeted with hails and handshakes, not bullets. I understand the need for protecting our research team and welcome comitee with a crack team of xcom operatives, but let's not send and army unless they start shooting first
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2020 22:11 |
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I support radio signaling them back and sending a decent xenostudies team/welcoming comitee in a couple of weeks, unless something serious is going on like they are about to run out of air in two days, in which case yeah, go all in
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2020 23:40 |
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Veloxyll posted:Due to the developing Martian situation, the shiprwights present the following ship. Previously considered unviable, the current situation has shifted things somewhat. The NOMADs are happy that the ingenious shipwrights are working on large capacity vessels
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2020 00:30 |
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Either time jump or they were in some sort of stasis for decades until the stasis system broke down (around the Roswell incident?). I'd suggest mentioning that earth has changed since the cyclops was lost (don't mention how many years), that we have spacefaring tech and are here under our own volition for exploration purposes and that we need a status update on them and potential hostiles if we need to do a rescue mission
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2020 05:07 |
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We don't know from how many eras this people have been abducted. The ones who are more resilient can be quickly debriefed but there are thousands of people so I think the most practical and humane solutions is setting up artificial villages that carefully recreate their original enviroments for an ease of transition. We could have "Medieval Burg" "Sengoku Burg" or "West Burg" and afterwards, when all the rescued people have been integrated to our time, we can use these Burgs for education purposes
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2020 19:26 |
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The NOMAD Collective applauds the rescue intiatives on Mars and fully support them, as well as keeping the projects on civilian hands for peaceful purposes. The idea of abductions is troubling but we must treat the individual aliens as fellow sentinents with the potentional to overthrow whatever forces commanded the study of our planet, specially that they are now probably stranded. We must also consider that these "zepellins" could be our own ships and the Cyclops technicians are confused regarding their origins But on the rescue mission, the NOMAD collective proposes the EarthWorld Park a large island on earth were we can set up villages that mimic the historical aesthetics of the cryogen-preserved humans on Mars. The purpose is not deceiving them but creating a soothing enviroment for proper debriefing, avoiding the shock of seeing decades or even centuries of human development at once. These "worlds" would be staffed by our best psychologists and historians to ease the transition process of these people into our modern world. Once the process is complete, these villages could be used for educational purposes for all the Commintern
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2020 19:11 |
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Fellow members have reached us with sensible concerns. The purpose of EathWorld Park is not to be a zoo or to deceive the abductees but to create a safe place for debriefing. The wake up on a place they are familiar with and they are informed that X time happened and the world has changed; then they are eased into the modern world. While I believe most people on the Cyclops will understand skipping some decades, there are thousands of people in cryo stasis of unknown geographical and temporal origin. We must also consider that these Worlds might provide a working place and living arrangements for those Wakers that find it too difficult to live in modern cities. They can live there as experts, teachers, antropologists and historians or in any job they like. If you have any suggestions, we are all ears
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2020 19:57 |
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After copius debating with our fellow delegates, the NOMADs retire the EarthWorld bill and instead present the more sensible Humane Reacclimatation and Transition Bureau Bill, which will create an organization, in principle under XCOM, composed of psychologists, doctors and other needed professionals, tasked with reintroducing the cryogenically sleeping population to our modern world in a humane way after they are rescued from the Mars facility. This Bureau's mandate is for the Mars "Wakers" but could be potentially expanded if other similar facilities exist in the Solar System or in the potential (although unlikely) scenario that some of these Grey/Martian aliens decide to Pacho fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Dec 21, 2020 |
# ¿ Dec 20, 2020 23:46 |
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I think the deets of the quarantine should be left to the experts rather than us delegates, which ooc means that as long as we say we are taking all known precautions there's no need to micromanage the rescue from the assembly
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2020 02:34 |
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The Awake: A bring them home The Asleep: vote I'm proposing D: Once we have mapped out the facility, start to wake a very small number of people so we have more intel about their origins and then start to steadily wake them in waves, starting with the ones chronologically closer to us, and waking the next wave after the previous one has finished it's quarantine period on Earth. If this option is unsuitable I'll vote B The Site: C The Discord: Y
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2020 02:45 |
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Glad that you're ok and hyped for the continuation of the LP
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2021 19:48 |
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Do the martian skeletons match the ones in the Roswell ship?
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2021 22:49 |
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atelier morgan posted:gently caress me is that nose art and kill tallies Alien Pinup Art The NOMAD collective fully supports preserving one of each model of our ships in an international aerospatial museum. Since this are ships we are talking about, maybe this could be a mobile museum, making trips though Earth, the Moon and Mars so more people can enjoy and learn about space travel history We also propose that we consider the alive Roswells as potential allies and friends foremost. While we acknowledge the inherent difficulties in First Contact, our ethos and raison de etre as an Interplanetary Commonwealth of Species should guide our actions
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2021 19:12 |
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Asterite34 posted:I mean... they DID have ample opportunities over the last (at least) 65 years to initiate First Contact on their own terms, and instead opted to covertly kidnap thousands of military personnel and civilians and have detained them for decades and in some cases possibly centuries. Their technology is more advanced than ours, yes, but not so incredibly advanced and beyond human comprehension they can make claim to seeing humanity as lesser animals to put in zoos. They are, at best, scientists who are exceptionally cavalier about specimen collecting, and at worst human traffickers. Barring some extraordinary mitigating circumstances, it's hard to see what these creatures have done to earn a warm welcome. It is fair to consider the extraterrestial polity these aliens belonged to as a threat, true. But these particular aliens are defacto stranded, stranded under our care and as sentinent beings we should extend the same considerations we have for citizens of non-commintern aligned polities. Also, the most pragmatic in our midst are keen to point out the material benefits if one of these aliens, as they say, flips It was also pointed out to us that the priority is, of course, the human abductees. We are talking about focus: Treat the aliens as stranded refugees and potential allies and not as prisioners of war. Also, the rescue of the abductees is a titanic, commintern encompasing endeavour while the alien contact operation would be by a much smaller and specialized XCOM team
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2021 20:20 |
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We should also remember that the aliens are eerily similar to us, so we shouldn't discount the possibility of a third party who fabricated an entire species for some unknown purpose. Either them... or us
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2021 17:29 |
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Asterite34 posted:On the other hand, Venus seems to be our only substantial off-world source of Gallicite. How do we feel about this being shared with (and in the event of hostilities, possibly blockaded by) Japan? Maybe until Japan joins the comintern as full-members or in a extended version of provisional membership (it's being discussed in several comissions) the joint Comintern-Japanese Venus project should be handled by an NGO with a 50/50 split Commintern/Japanese personnel
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2021 18:14 |
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I'd recommend that the landing site could be turned into a Lunar Aerospace Museum, charting the whole of humanity's path to the stars and having the US landing site and flag as part of the tour. It doesn't have to be a political memorial when it could be educational
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2021 19:32 |
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zanni posted:The Cascadian Workers Collective has two pieces of legislation to propose; The NOMADs support both bills!
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2021 20:16 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 14:01 |
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For the cyclops and U-boat crew I'd suggest that the debriefing/psychological XCOM team pick a group of the ones they consider ready to travel to earth, do a press conference informing the world that an alien facility has been found on Mars, that it apparently belongs to the Roswell aliens, that there are humans in stasis and that MOSA is 24/7 investigating to release them. Then have the survivors say some words. Then we'll organize a world tour showing them the bright socialist future with plenty of cameras and let them go wherever they want afterwards with the warning that we cant guarantee their safety in non-aligned former US polities. We may call it the Bring Them Home Initiative e1: Since it wasn't clear, participation in the world tour is non-mandatory in order to be released but we hope the majority of the group is enthusiastic to know the land of the future e2: The press conference would be after our diplomatic policy is set for the period and under the schedule the XCOM team gives us for what/when info can be safely released to the general public Pacho fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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