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Greetings from the Cascadian Workers Collective, happy to finally be working with you all! I've spent the last week studying the legislative archives after being appointed the representative of the CWC and look forward to taking part in our shared future! I hope this isn't presumptuous, but I have a proposal I've been working on, the Indigenous Nations Reparations Act. To put it simply; I believe it is our duty as proper socialists to see those sovereign native nations that have been abused and exploited see their lands returned to them, and see repayment for the suffering and poverty they've been forced into. This would take the form of; -Returning lands to the native nations that they belong to. -Paying monetary reparations. -Giving full assistance in rebuilding of infrastructure, agriculture, housing, and anything else needed. -Recognizing each indigenous nation as a lawful and sovereign independent nation. -Prioritizing TNE industrial construction and development in indigenous nations. This would of course apply to any indigenous peoples on any continent. We have a responsibility to try to make amends for the evils of colonial and capitalist exploitation and violence. I believe this would be a first step in fulfilling that. (I'm not sure of how this would be handled mechanically, so I leave that up to Mister Bates!) Sanev.Khan posted:Also I propose repealing I-31, the five year plans, and a return to the one-year plans, because it's going to get annoying and it's not super compatible with yearly updates, our rapid teching-up and we'll need more flexibility when we've finished converting our industry. And also, we're already reconvening every year anyway. Asterite34 posted:2) Proposal for EM and Thermal scan of Mars in anticipation of a formal Xenoarcheology expedition to Cydonia. The Cydonia Ruins are potentially incalculably valuabe, but we can't rule out that they're not as dead as we'd like. A further orbial scan can be done per Foxfire_'s earlier workshopping: Serf posted:3) Explore the sea floor. We know more about the solar system at this rate than the oceans on our planet. Perhaps this new generation of submarine, rather than being used for war as they would have in the past, be used to enhance the understanding of our own world. Surely TNE-derived hulls would allow diving to depths never seen before and their scanners could map this great unknown. And who knows, perhaps visitors other than the Roswell ship ended up lost here in the past. The Earth's surface is mostly water, statistically other extraterrestrial wrecks would be found beneath the waves Antilles posted:We would also like to propose the following instructions to our diplomatic corps, to see if we can improve relations with currently neutral states: welfarestateofmind posted:[1] Lunplan Expansion: with the TNE deposits on Luna, a major expansion of infrastructure to accommodate a larger population there. We should prioritize the resources we have the most access to until we have reached a critical mass of resource extraction, while building up as a secondary venture our Martian expansion. Since our focus is already on construction and mining, this should not greatly hamper our larger five year plan. NewMars posted:The UAWR would like to propose the Trans-newtonian Global Network Project. In addition, I Second these proposals.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2020 08:39 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 23:29 |
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There have been some concerns raised about the Indigenous Nations Reparations Act, and I'll attempt to address them.welfarestateofmind posted:On the subject of this Indigenous Nations Reparations Act, many of us in the Soviet Union is somewhat alarmed that we again are moving towards particularist interests rather than a unified socialist future. What defines an "indigenous nation" by this metric? What happens to the people who may have lived centuries on the land that is now to be returned? I feel that this act would largely apply to the Americas and Australia. There are serious parallels between the treatment of the First Nations of the Americas and the Indigenous peoples of Australia, namely in disenfranchisement, resettlement, cultural assimilation, and poverty. They have had the lands they've lived on for countless generations taken from them by violence and abuse, their cultural and spiritual landmarks desecrated, and their culture treated as lesser and something that can be 'educated' away. It is their land, and it was their land for tens of thousands of years before European colonists arrived. The new people who live there now do so because of illegitimate treaties and violent oppression 'claiming' those lands for settlers. It would be up to the indigenous inhabitants and the settlers to come to their own understanding and agreement, as has happened in the CWC. We would be happy to advise any nation that needs guidance, and we truly believe that there is a peaceful solution to be found and peaceful future to be secured. Antilles posted:While we of the Kalmar Union agrees with the acknowledgement of the brutal history of indigenous tribes and the return of their lands (we have some of our own to adress, in fact), the construction of ComIntern facilities and infrastructure should be be contingent on them joining the ComIntern, which they should be free to choose of their own volition. If they choose to stay neutral then reparations should be limited to what can be offered through the Socialist Aid program. Comrade, we shouldn't fall into the trap of continuing colonial assimilation under a new guise. Who are we to force our frankly European ideology on peoples who have already dealt with centuries of exactly that? Let me be clear that I fully and completely believe in Socialism, but I don't think it is something that should be forced by violence, be it by the point of a gun or by economic coercion. By offering economic and technological equality, but only if they sign agreements with a foreign power that would take away their autonomy, we would merely repeat the sins of the colonial past. We in the Comintern have a level of wealth that was completely unimaginable only a short few decades ago. The best way to convince the indigenous inhabitants the truth of Socialism is generousity, not thrift. They've dealt with centuries of 'deals' and 'ultimatums'. Why can't we simply just help them, and try to make up for the suffering from the distinctly European legacy that is colonialism? Investment in TNE extraction and production in Indigenous nations, without expectation of political or ideological commitments, is a non-negotiable part of the Indigenous Nations Reparations Act. I will not budge on this. I refuse to continue colonialism under another face. zanni fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Nov 11, 2020 |
# ¿ Nov 11, 2020 22:33 |
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Comrades, there seems to be a few fundamental misunderstandings here. First, the assertion that the CWC hasn't already 'given the land back', as it were. We are a collection of individual communities and tribal nations that cooperate together economically and politically via a system of democratic representation from the lowest level up. We found our own solution and believe that others are able to as well, if given the support and advice necessary. Secondly, the assertion 'give the land back' means mass resettlement of anyone that isn't part of a native nation. I thought this should be obvious, but the INRA's question is about ownership, not inhabitation. The native nations would get the ability to choose what to do on their own land again, choose how to use natural resources, choose what is allowable. Gone would be the days of settlers showing up with unconsented 'official' plans and an army of police at their back, ignoring the lack of consent from native nations to use their lands. No one is wanting to displace thousands of people and 'replace' them with their own 'tribe'. It is simply a return of ownership to the rightful holders, a cancellation of illegitimate treaties made at gunpoint. An end to the practice of settlers deciding what is allowed and what isn't and the indigenous inhabitants having no recourse to disagree. Thirdly, the assertation that recognizing that said treaties are illegitimate and righting this wrong is in any way comparable to the nationalistic independence movements elsewhere in the world. You are approaching this from a profoundly pessimistic and profoundly European viewpoint. Frankly, I am disappointed. Antilles posted:We believe people should be free to choose to join ComIntern, but it cannot be a choice if choosing 'no' has no consequences. I repeat again. Economic coercion used to force disadvantaged people into signing away autonomy is violence, and were the tactics that colonialism used for centuries. 'They can only be given access to our advanced technology if they agree to our demands.' This has no place in a truly equitable and global Socialist society. People do not believe in the Communist International because to do otherwise invites consequences. They do so because the Communist International offers the safety and ability to live safely, happily, and equally, regardless of who they are, where they are from, and what they can offer. Equality freely given will do more to win the indigenous nations to your side than ultimatums and coercion ever will.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2020 01:33 |
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Mister Bates posted:(out-of-character, as an indigenous person living on unceded reservation land, this is a super neat and interesting conversation) OOC: i really hope im not like WAY overstepping my bounds here, apologies if so! Antilles posted:(also ooc, just wanted to make sure I'm interpreting your proposal correctly: -Returning lands to the native nations that they belong to. [Basically purely a story thing, no problem there.] -Paying monetary reparations. [Probably something to do with Wealth? Not really sure how that system works, but probably no problem there.] -Giving full assistance in rebuilding of infrastructure, agriculture, housing, and anything else needed. [This is covered by the Socialist Aid program, no problem there.] -Recognizing each indigenous nation as a lawful and sovereign independent nation. [We're all about self-governing councils, but not at least encouraging to join ComIntern is a bit odd.] -Prioritizing TNE industrial construction and development in indigenous nations. [My big sticking point. I'm interpreting this as basically building a mine, a factory, and possibly one or two other facilities I don't recall them all off-hand, and then deleting them since they're not under ComIntern control.] Is this a fair interpretation or am I off here?) OOC: those seem reasonable! honestly i was going to just leave it to mister bates to decide, but if ends up this way, i think not deleting every TNE thing made would also be reasonable bc i definitely think at least Some would join. itd be up to mister bates to figure out what happens narratively, if the INRA gets approved!
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2020 02:03 |
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There have been some good points raised, along with some.. exaggerated responses.. but I think, on reflection... parts of my proposal and the logic behind them was flawed. HiHo ChiRho, thatbastardken, and Rubix Squid especially raise valid points. As a result, I would like to retract my previous proposal, and instead introduce a new bill. It would share a lot with the defunct INRA, but with a few key differences. The Indigenous Restitution and Protection Act would include: -Paying monetary reparations to indigenous peoples affected by colonialism, such as the First Nations of North America, Aboriginal peoples of Australia, and other native groups that have had their culture and wellbeing endangered by cultural assimilation, disenfranchisement, and economic exploitation. -Offering full assistance via the Socialist Aid program to said affected communities. -Creating an official ComIntern organization to guide decolonization efforts among ComIntern nations, including advisement, mediation, and representing a unified decolonialist front. -Creating an additional ComIntern organization to facilitate the regrowth and preservation of Indigenous culture, language, and beliefs, including services such as reclamation of looted cultural artifacts, indigenous language courses, preservation and protection of important cultural and spiritual sites, and to encourage a dialogue with Indigenous peoples and the larger Socialist sphere. -Offering training programs in TNE-specific industrial and scientific applications for employment in MOSA and related agencies. I hope that this will better suit the Committee.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2020 05:04 |
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Fivemarks posted:But what of Involuntary settlers? The African Diaspora in the Americans didn't ask to be brought here, and didn't ask to be tools in the colonization and genocide of native peoples... but, well, here we are. We can't simply be shipped back to Africa. Where in my proposal was there any mention of forced resettlement to another continent?? Or forced resettlement of any sort?? Comrade, I believe you have an incredibly flawed understanding of what decolonialization means and entails.. please examine the discussion of the last few days to get a better idea.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2020 05:14 |
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Rhjamiz posted:"Returning lands to the native nations" certainly suggests that connotation, particularly in regard to the Americas. Let's not pretend this conclusion is somehow unreasonable given the rather sweeping proposals being set forth. As I have already clarified once, it is a question of land ownership, not who inhabits it. 'Returning lands' means giving indigenous peoples back their seat at the table for how land is used and why. It means that they get to choose how to use the natural resources of their lands, approval or denial of construction projects.. it means ending the frankly disgusting history of settlers just doing whatever they want and using state violence to force through resource exploitation and desecration to fit their own convenience. No one is expecting or suggesting that 'returning land' means that the native peoples will kick out the however many tens of thousands of people that live in cities and settlements on traditional indigenous territories so they can replace them. And frankly, I'm getting tired of having to repeat this multiple times because people read the words 'returning land' and childishly assume that means that indigenous peoples want to forcibly resettle everyone who isn't themselves. This conclusion is a completely unreasonable conclusion to arrive to. It is childish and has an absolute minimum of thought behind it. And, again, I have already clarified this in previous debate on the previous bill. Please be sure to be up to date in the discussion before laying accusations that I am advocating for tearing countless numbers of people from their homes and lives and shoving them elsewhere. I lived most of my life in a refugee camp. I know that pain well and I wouldn't push to hurt others with it.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2020 05:42 |
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Happerry posted:Out of sadness of the lack of medals and ribbons, I made some up by doodling around in the ribbon maker until I had some that I thought looked good. If it is necessary for medals to be seconded, I second these being added!
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2020 21:39 |
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Mister Bates posted:I appreciate everyone's contributions to the game and am glad it's generated these discussions. As an indigenous Marxist in real life I'm particularly happy that it's got people thinking about what indigenous sovereignty and 'reparations' look like in a hypothetical socialist future. That's not really how I expecting our space boat LARP to go but I don't mind at all. i definitely wasnt expecting or intending to spark that whole thing with my initial proposal, but im glad that it was a positive addition for you! i was worried i might have kinda spurred something that would be upsetting for indigenous folks to read in here decolonialization is definitely an absolutely necessary step for a proper global socialist society tho, so im glad that it looks like the steps towards that will be at the least voted on!
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2020 01:58 |
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The CWC votes as follows: SK-38, Expand Interkosmos Academy YES SK-39, Repeal Five-Year Plans YES HC-40, Integrate North America YES S-41, Research and Deploy Spying Technology YES A-42, Surveil the Mars Ruins YES JR-43, The Extraplanetary Focus Discovery Act YES I-44, Administrative Overhaul YES I-45, Diplomatic Overtures YES to part 1 and 2 of this proposal, but not to part 3 P-46, Venera Initiative 2.0 YES NM-47, the Trans-Newtonian Global Network Project YES F-48, Organizational Capacity YES F-49, Long-Term Research Efficiency YES P-50, X-COM YES Z-51, IRPA YES I-52, Armed Spacecraft Development YES W-53, Lunplan Expansion YES W-54, Medals YES W-55, Rename the Comintern YES H-56, More Medals YES zanni fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Nov 14, 2020 |
# ¿ Nov 14, 2020 12:41 |
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Edited my vote on I-52 as well!
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2020 18:59 |
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I'll be honest, a naval tactic that we KNOW will lead to heavy friendly casualties and who's only point is for us to be greedy about enemy tech and taking ships.. seems like a better fit for the capitalists, not us. Every comrade's life is precious.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2020 03:12 |
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NewMars posted:I've an idea for one. Big fan of this one! Also, glad to see you back Mister Bates, hoping life calms back down for you! zanni fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Nov 23, 2020 |
# ¿ Nov 23, 2020 20:55 |
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Mister Bates posted:The Martian New Year's greeting includes video footage of the huge , high-intensity dust storm currently raging around the site, taken remotely, as all the cosmonauts are trapped inside the habitat for the duration. One camera angle is expunged from the broadcasts and instead sent to X-COM for further examination. It may just be an image artifact, but for about 45 seconds it looks as if there's a distant airborne object moving through the storm to the north of the outpost, travelling west to east (the same direction as the winds). Well, this is either nothing or completely terrifying!
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2020 07:36 |
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I support the drive for Venus, and in fact did vote for it! But I can also see some good points being brought up about our ability to do it right now. Venus will definitely happen! But our plate is definitely pretty drat full right now, so it may be some years before we're able.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2020 01:08 |
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Mister Bates posted:On the same day, a few hours after the offensive begins, a diplomatic summit is held between the Cascadian Workers' Collective and the capitalist holdout state which colloquially refers to itself as 'Free Cascadia', hosted by Comintern diplomats. The end goal of the summit is peaceful accession of the remaining capitalist-controlled territories in the region to the Communist Interplanetary. The timing is deliberate and is absolutely intended to intimidate. there i am gary there i am! Good update! Hopefully the misinformed leaders in 'Free Cascadia' will come to their senses and allow their workers to self-organize. The only true freedom there is is to be found through community action and cooperation. The mars object being confirmed to be real is worrying, but the reports on it seemingly not being a powered aircraft does also reduce some of the anxiety. Hopefully we only find good news once we get a xeno team over there! zanni fucked around with this message at 10:05 on Nov 25, 2020 |
# ¿ Nov 25, 2020 10:01 |
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Just to say, if there was a discord made for this LP, I'd join it!
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2020 21:20 |
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Antilles posted:That's good to hear, this LP has been very fun to participate in. And you've done a good job livening things up what with gladio and the other nations and such, I get the feeling this period of the game would be a lot more plain and straightforward in a more regular game. Echoing this sentiment! I've been eagerly checking this thread throughout my days hoping for a new post because of how engaging I find the setting and storytelling, I'm looking forward to the next update!
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2020 10:29 |
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holy poo poo I'm going for the 'ship was snatched and humans have been living in habitats here since then' theory, but oh my god this is crazy
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2020 20:16 |
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I'd also support sending a trained team within a few weeks, but also trying to establish radio communications from orbit. If there are humans down there, we need to talk with them to find out what their situation is!
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2020 00:53 |
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Ohhhhh man I can't wait to hear the responseAntilles posted:Hmm, assuming there 1) humans inside the ruined alien colony and 2) they're not in immediate distress, I'm thinking we should do the following: immediately build enough Infrastructure to represent a research base with additional hab units, medical bays and vehicle bays, ship it over to Mars with X-COM and other specialist personnel, and drop it down somewhere outside the ruined colony but close enough the scientists can drive rovers there and back again with enough daylight left over to get some work done. Once settled priority 1 is rescuing the trapped humans and bring them back to the research outpost for a thorough checkup, extensive quarantine and a very detailed debriefing. Priority 2 would be doing preliminary work for the eventual xenoarchaeological team. This seems a good approach to me as well!
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2020 03:04 |
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Oh god, we're gonna have to explain a LOT of history in the coming days aren't we
zanni fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Dec 17, 2020 |
# ¿ Dec 17, 2020 05:22 |
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oh god oh gently caress this is loving huge on MANY levels
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2020 08:50 |
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Crazycryodude posted:They've been living on Mars and have already accepted that they're (probably, they think) on Mars for the past year, leaving them on Mars is probably fine psychologically? If human ships full of human food and human doctors and human infrastructure keep showing up that's enough to not go insane while getting debriefed in a Martian processing center we put up next to the ruins. The Moon is a hell of a lot more alien than Mars, at least on Mars there's still an atmosphere (thin but at least it exists), a day/night cycle roughly the same as Earth instead of a month long, and the gravity is closer to Earth. Hauling them all back to the Moon and making them stare at Earth every day while they barf all over the place from the gravity change and see constant ships zipping back and forth every 45 seconds that they aren't allowed to be on is probably the worse option. I agree with cryodude here, I think making sure they have as comfortable a settlement we can provide to them where they already are is the best plan, especially while we set up for an inevitable xenoarcheology dig.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2020 23:29 |
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HereticMIND posted:OOC: I’m still tickled pink that I was able to have the initial Martian colony be named “Barsoom.” Also, I’ve been keeping an eye on the thread; been trying to catch up, but it would be great if there was a table of contents for me to check for new updates. What's the significance of the name?
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2020 07:07 |
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Akratic Method posted:It's a little sci-fi nod: the native name for Mars in the book that became that John Carter of Mars movie. Aw, that's a nice touch! Honestly, I'm now kinda wondering if the TNE revolution and subsequent increase in space exploration might have sparked a newfound craze for sci-fi stuff among Comintern citizens? Or would reality becoming a living science fiction story day by day kind of make it moot?
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2020 07:24 |
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I'd like to propose the Face of Mars Act. The basic aim of the FMA is to ensure that the rescue, debriefing, caretaking, and exploration process are kept under civilian jurisdiction and be focused on scientific study and humanitarian aid. There are incredible implications behind the abductions, the working cryogenic technology, the apparent proof of past and current extraterrestrial interference in human life.. but the heart of the matter is there are a lot of stranded human beings down there that have up to 70 years of lost time and are going through an unprecedented and likely traumatic experience. This is a humanitarian crisis first and foremost. We need food, shelter, doctors. Translators as well, we don't know how many people are there and what backgrounds they have. Engineers and scientists to study the cryo process so we can avoid any accidental harm from this unknown technology. People who can answer the abductee's questions on what the hell happened to them and what's happened back on Earth while they've been gone. Mental health services to help these people to cope with what they're going through, and with the loss of everyone and everything they knew. And we need to eventually let the population back home know. I'm not saying we must share literally every detail, but this is too important to the fate of our entire species to keep hidden. There will of course still be need for security services. The mention of this 'zeppelin' is worrying in the extreme. But the last thing we should be focusing on right now is a military coverup. Get down there, help them out, find out what happened to them, and figure out what we're going to tell the rest of humanity once we know more.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2020 10:45 |
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NewMars posted:While I'm here, the UAWR would like to propose the Comintern Digital Communications Forum. This act would found a space for up to the minute public communications between comintern members using newly-available digital technologies, perfectly suited for situations such as this. (That is to say, create a discord channel for the LP.) Seconding this proposal!
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2020 11:00 |
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Kitfox88 posted:
I would support a combination of the Camp Helium and FMA proposals into one if Cryodude also supports that idea. I felt the debrief camp would make a good starting point for a xenoarcheological base in the future as it was already, formalizing that approach seems apt. We also definitely should not fast track a return to Earth for the abductees, there are much too many variables and possible dangers. This whole process should be taken at a deliberate pace and given the proper care necessary to avoid any disasters, and to make the transition for the abductees as easy as possible. I am also in full support of Operation Lifeline. I do not think the Earthworld Park proposal is a good approach, however. I share the same concerns as the other delegates in how we would achieve it's goals and what good would come of it. We can't send these people back to their time, we need to adapt them to the current reality so they can eventually rejoin human society. Making a flawed fantasy of their past goes against this process.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2020 21:35 |
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Pacho posted:After copius debating with our fellow delegates, the NOMADs retire the EarthWorld bill and instead present the more sensible Humane Reacclimatation and Transition Bureau Bill, which will create an organization, in principle under XCOM, composed of psychologists, doctors and other needed professionals, tasked with reintroducing the cryogenically sleeping population to our modern world in a humane way after they are rescued from the Mars facility. This Bureau's mandate is for the Mars "Wakers" but could be potentially expanded if other similar facilities exist in the Solar System or in the potential (although unlikely) scenario that some of these Grey/Martian aliens decide to I would support the HRTB initiative. Having an agency ready to welcome the abductees to Earth and to help them get resettled into their new lives once we have moved forward on the Mars situation is an excellent idea.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2020 00:09 |
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Foxfire_ posted:Agree on quarantine/debrief, but where should we put them? As the FMA and Camp Helium proposals have stated, the best course of action seems to be to set up a scientific and humanitarian aid facility near the Face of Mars site, which will eventually transition into the main xenoarcheological hub once we have debriefed and examined the abductees and cleared them for return to Earth. That's the going consensus at least, near as I can tell.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2020 01:25 |
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While I do think we should keep them on Mars for debriefing and quarantine procedures, I also agree that sending down something like a radio and some other helpful items along with the food supplies would be a good idea.
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# ¿ Dec 25, 2020 22:11 |
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The Awake: C The Asleep: C The Site: A The Discord: Y
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2020 02:01 |
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How're you feeling Bates? Hope it's mild and you're okay
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 05:54 |
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Really happy to see you back Bates, been checking the thread almost daily and was really relieved to hear you're okay! also loving HYPED for next update
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2021 19:41 |
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Do the refugees have anyone awake Other than USS Cyclops crewmates? Or do they have any idea what kind of people are in the other pods? Additional important question: have any of them shown signs of the Spanish Flu, and can we enact strict quarantine measures in regards to possible transmission regardless of the answer? Last thing we need is a 70 year old pandemic to start again, or to infect the refugees with the equivalent of a superbug for their dated immune systems. god tho, im so hype for the return. really looking forward to the reactions of the refugees when they find out whats happened back on earth in the past 70 years or so. from their perspective, the russian revolution was an in progress civil war that was only a year old and it was still unclear who would come out on top; imagine going from that and the next day you wake up and they control half the planet
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2021 12:06 |
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Fully support Redeye and Pirate's plan and questions, seems the best approach for now. Christ, I really hope all those tubes aren't full though, that'd be.. horrifying. Countless people abducted over just over a century and humanity never noticed?
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2021 07:36 |
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Innocent_Bystander posted:... I could see re-tasking the existing survey vessels to prioritise the Jovian moons and, say, Titan, over the asteroid surveying they're apparently doing now ... I'd support this idea, for scientific purposes at the very least! There might also be good TNE deposits if we get lucky, and we can do it with our current tech pretty easily.
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2021 01:43 |
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NewMars posted:That reminds me, for the next vote, I gotta put up a measure to get my flag adopted. That's the one below for reference (the blue circle is earth, so comintern nations can strip out the star and hammer and sickle to put in their own iconography). PurpleXVI posted:This is a quite good flag. ^ I'd vote to adopt this in a heartbeat, excellent work!
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2021 01:20 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 23:29 |
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My stance is that we need to take a deal. Not specifically the deal they've put out, I largely agree with the additional clauses put forth here, but we need to come to an understanding with the Japanese and the UN nations as a whole if we're ever going to have Earth, and humanity as a whole, peacefully cooperate towards a shared future. They've put every single card they had on the table, including confidential intel they had no obligation to show they were in possession of, and the message I get from them is, essentially, that after they did all their research, gathered all the information they could, and weighed every option? They've come to the conclusion that the only future they will have is through working with the Comintern. That's really it. They need us, and we know that, and they know that, and they're giving us the best opportunity we will ever get to take that first step on bringing the rest of humanity into a socialist interplanetary future. Find a deal that works for both sides, tie their economies and populations with ours, so that breaking ties would be so unimaginably costly that it won't be considered, and by doing so, ensure peace. The Japanese see what's coming and don't want to get left behind in History's dust. They want to be part of our future. I say, ensure workers' rights to organize, ensure free participation in government for leftist political organizations, offer assistance with decolonialization via our own established ministries, and get an agreement that they'll adhere to interplanetary law as laid out by MOSA. I also want to propose an idea, not necessarily contingent on a deal, but something that may make things easier for us down the line. Form an international logistical and political organization to facilitate and standardize international cooperation between different polities' space agencies. Something that will have the groundwork laid and protocols in place to make working together for scientific, humanitarian, economic, and possibly even defense goals easier down the line. If we can entwine ourselves, and make cooperation a natural choice regardless of ideology, it's our best chance of coming to a shared understanding and future for humanity that is free from war and conflict. Many tribes, one people. zanni fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Feb 16, 2021 |
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