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The Lunar Republic people. Not My Little Pony fans, people who were trying to become citizens of the Moon before actually going there. This unrelated proto-incel: https://logological.org/girlfriend
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Nov 11, 2020 09:16
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Skratte posted:Gonterman's a big genuine incel now, surprising no one. I was actually following Gonterman's Deviantart account when he started sliding towards MRA poo poo. I'm sometimes concerned I was partially responsible; he was posting an active project at the time, with a god-awful female main character, and I left a lot of comments about my problems with her, until he started posting MRA links at me? I have to imagine it's a coincidence, but sometimes I wonder if I can add "radicalized David Gonterman by trying to convince him to write a realistic woman" to my Internet Resume. That said, Gonterman has always been a shithead. I think I've told this story on SA before, but way back in the late '90's, I was involved with the MST3K fan community that had some ties to Gonterman, including a kid who was working with Gonterman on some projects. The kid was in his late teens and seemed to be a sincere friend to a guy who wasn't easy to deal with... and Gonterman sold him out to Portal of Evil to try and get street cred there. It didn't work (IIRC, the stuff Gonterman linked was just mediocre art of professional wrestlers as furries, which wasn't notable even back in 1999), and it always just struck me as a bizarre act of cruelty, especially targeted at someone who had been nothing but kind to him. (I still know the guy Gonterman tried to sell out, and he's 100% kind and guileless, so I don't think there was some secret drama.) I think he's kind of a tricky figure, since in retrospect, he's clearly neurodivergent in a way that causes some functional problems, but he's also clearly a poorly-socialized and unpleasant person even beyond that. He's just nasty in a way that a lot of these weirdos aren't.
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Nov 11, 2020 09:26
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Pick posted:This is who I thought of first and, I recall the sourcecode for what he did finish was released at some point, with people judging it as actually drat good code and most of a game for something that was basically a personal favour for a vanity project, done in his spare time. Like a lot of things to do with JDR, the closer you look, the worse it becomes.
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Nov 11, 2020 09:55
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Ugly In The Morning posted:And he’s actually done his projects instead of just talking about half-baked ideas like the Dozerfleet guy. Yeah, his novels are deeply... whatever is going on with his brain... but they’re finished and it’s really interesting seeing a perspective so different Yeah, Uli wrote a dang book (or several???) and while his fiction is predictably dense and difficult to get through, his writing about his own life is fascinating And I can all but confirm the LUE origin, that was the only board I was surfing in '04 and it became a meme between me and a friend I was only really hanging out with around that time.
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Riatsala posted:Yeah, Uli wrote a dang book (or several???) and while his fiction is predictably dense and difficult to get through, his writing about his own life is fascinating two novels, and while they are not good they are definitely interesting and unique he's also published a video game and is continually tinkering with another that will never be released, so he's also got an admirable work ethic
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I didn't realize there was a second Uli novel. I'll have to pick that up; I love Legend of the 10 Elemental Masters dearly, although I've only gotten like 30 pages in.
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Quid posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge7mozA-ptI I remember finding his MySpace(2007?) account by accident, at the time he was in his 20s, gay, and working at Walgreens in Arizona. Certainly hope his life is more exciting, and I hope he’s got a bf
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Nov 14, 2020 14:00
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Pick posted:This is who I thought of first and, Not entirely related, but that always reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zBTF4INW5g
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I remember on the early internet there was a site where this guy would post amusing but mostly benign little pranks. One time he found a pedestal for a statue and made his own fake one, which stayed there for years. I don't remember much else about it, but it was very 
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Pick posted:This is who I thought of first and, Wondering if the fact that they could both scratch their ankles if their arms completely unfolded was an intentional detail has bothered me off and on for decades. — There was this guy, can’t remember his name, who had a very involved fantasy life about being in a gang of murderous preteen boys and he would write up detailed stories about their exploits, often with illustrations. He had deep lore about all of them- pretty sure they were based on a circle of friends he hung out with in middle school- and every part of it was extremely discomfiting, tho fascinating. I feel like he could have gone on to be either an extremely prolific outsider artist or serial killer and I wish I could track him down to see. Pretty sure I found him because he was sorted into the same group of weirdos as Dragonguyver on POE, though he made that dude seem pretty well adjusted by comparison. Does this ring any bells for anyone?
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I remembered one; he was a furry with a fursona of a black and white wolf with earphones (like a DJ, I guess) and he was obsessed with commissioning art of his fursona. It got to the point he actually lost his home and was blacklisted by a large number of artists.
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Thermos posted:I remember on the early internet there was a site where this guy would post amusing but mostly benign little pranks. One time he found a pedestal for a statue and made his own fake one, which stayed there for years. I don't remember much else about it, but it was very The first thing I thought of when you mentioned early internet and benign pranks is a site called cockeyed.com. I don't know if they pulled off the stunt you described, but it sounds like something they would do, and a trip to web.archive.org might solve the mystery.
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mysterious frankie posted:Does this ring any bells for anyone? I'm guessing this is the guy from the deviantart thread who had drawings of young teen skaters who were bashing in the faces of security guards or kids or something and had foreshortened angles of shoes mid-curbstomp?
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Anyone remember the ChicksSuck guy? It was a lovely blog by some dude that was really bitter about his ex and wrote juvenile "humor" posts about her and all of womankind. I think it ended because he got a girlfriend that finally cured his brain worms. Edit: Holy gently caress he wrote a book called My Struggle. gently caress that dude hahahah Inzombiac has a new favorite as of 21:12 on Dec 4, 2020 |
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Inzombiac posted:Anyone remember the ChicksSuck guy? I didn't know Hitler was an incel
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Sentient Data posted:I'm guessing this is the guy from the deviantart thread who had drawings of young teen skaters who were bashing in the faces of security guards or kids or something and had foreshortened angles of shoes mid-curbstomp? That sounds right. I want to say the violence ranged from adults to children, and there was written fiction to go with some of the pictures. When I saw the stuff it was on a personal site though, not deviantart.
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evobatman posted:Does anyone else remember a site called whatever-dude.com or similar from around 2001-2003? I seem to remember having a few laughs there, and I think it was Maddoxish or goonish critique of pop culture and society. Yea! I remember it being in the same vein as xe/dinosaur Dracula and I-mockery. But hasn’t been around in 20 years so could be off
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Years ago, 2013 maybe, I somehow crossed paths with an early internet "celebrity"... My buddy and I had gone out bar hopping, so we called a cab to drive us home. Since the cab driver was cash-only, we had to stop at a gas station on the way back. While my friend runs inside to use the ATM, I was casually chatting with the driver. I remember recognizing something in his voice, and then I looked up at him and saw the patch of white hair. It was Gorgeous. loving. George. I talked with him for a bit about his old show and whatnot. He said he had some loose plans to do more public access stuff, but he had a lot going on in his life too. Honestly, felt bad for the dude. I'm proud to say, I asked him if he had a business card and he gave me one! I have George's direct line, or maybe not, who knows if he's still freelancing as a taxi service 7 years later. I won't post picture proof of it for obvious reasons, so you'll just have to trust me on this one.
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Pinball posted:I remembered one; he was a furry with a fursona of a black and white wolf with earphones (like a DJ, I guess) and he was obsessed with commissioning art of his fursona. It got to the point he actually lost his home and was blacklisted by a large number of artists. You talking bout the dude that was still getting commissions while living in his car? He acted like an addict.
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DicktheCat posted:You talking bout the dude that was still getting commissions while living in his car? He acted like an addict. Furries can get way too into their fursonas Made me remember 2, the Ranting Gryphon and evidently he is still around and still going by that name, and is still a tremendous dipshit https://twitter.com/2_gryphon/status/1328007687200600064?s=20 Heath has a new favorite as of 08:48 on Dec 5, 2020 |
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Violet_Sky posted:I didn't know Hitler was an incel According to one account by a woman who claims she dated him a couple times in the late 1920s, he might've been a no-poo poo volcel.
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wait which guy was gonterman again? the one with the weird cheap anime comics that made no sense and were terrible?
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Mx. posted:wait which guy was gonterman again? the one with the weird cheap anime comics that made no sense and were terrible? A bunch of insane furry and/or Sonic and/or anime stuff, yeah. One of them was a webcomic about a guy with a symbiotic fursuit, and they fought crime or something -- like, an evil fursuit, I think? Also a Sonic fanfic/comic series about his self-insert, who had his arm blown off by a militant Afrocentric history teacher and then got transported to the Sonic world where it turns out he's Robotnik's long-lost son. There was also a Sailor Moon fanfic series where his self-insert was instead Sailor Moon's long-lost brother? Gonterman was, and probably still is, one of those guys who just created interchangable wads of terrible fanart about whatever he was obsessed with at the moment, often using the same or very similar self-insert characters and obsession topics (pretty sure the Sonic fanfic also involved a fursuit, albeit not a sentient symbiote that time); the lines between his pieces get very blurry.
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I was in the apartment the night Jenni of Jennicam ended up having sex on camera. Heard nothing from the bedroom but everyone in the apartment was dead silent when they figured out what was happening.
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Antivehicular posted:A bunch of insane furry and/or Sonic and/or anime stuff, yeah. One of them was a webcomic about a guy with a symbiotic fursuit, and they fought crime or something -- like, an evil fursuit, I think? Also a Sonic fanfic/comic series about his self-insert, who had his arm blown off by a militant Afrocentric history teacher and then got transported to the Sonic world where it turns out he's Robotnik's long-lost son. There was also a Sailor Moon fanfic series where his self-insert was instead Sailor Moon's long-lost brother? Gonterman was, and probably still is, one of those guys who just created interchangable wads of terrible fanart about whatever he was obsessed with at the moment, often using the same or very similar self-insert characters and obsession topics (pretty sure the Sonic fanfic also involved a fursuit, albeit not a sentient symbiote that time); the lines between his pieces get very blurry. In his Sweevo has a new favorite as of 17:18 on Dec 5, 2020 |
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Yep! I believe one of those polemics was specifically addressed to the teenage girl's parents. Just loving dreadful.
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I just looked it up and he was mid-20s at the time, but she was 15. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3580504&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=118#post424223744
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Antivehicular posted:Yep! I believe one of those polemics was specifically addressed to the teenage girl's parents. Just loving dreadful. I think the F Plus read that one in their hundredth episode greatest hits style thing. If that’s the polemic you’re talking about it was some pure  for sure.
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Ambitious Spider posted:Yea! I remember it being in the same vein as xe/dinosaur Dracula and I-mockery. But hasn’t been around in 20 years so could be off I looked it up on the wayback machine. It didn't age well.
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Pastry of the Year posted:The first thing I thought of when you mentioned early internet and benign pranks is a site called cockeyed.com. I don't know if they pulled off the stunt you described, but it sounds like something they would do, and a trip to web.archive.org might solve the mystery. I loved Cockeyed! "How Much Is Inside?" was my favorite I think, but the elaborate costumes Rob Cockerham made. I looked him up a while ago and he's still updating the site, which is wonderful. AND he is the fake sculpture guy!
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Heath posted:Furries can get way too into their fursonas dunking on 2 and his dipshit brand of ""centrism"" is evergreen  at least he no longer gets invited to major conventions to give his comedy routine
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:This is exactly who I thought of, too. I wonder what that dude's up to now. I found a blog entry from 2016 that said he's still in Japan but not as a teacher. Here are links to his blogs. First one is his newest one bottom one is the old one that we all know in love. Like you said though he has not updated anything since 2016. Sounds like he is probably still living in Japan as a normal salary man/family man. Good for him! https://gaijinchronicles.wordpress.com/ https://gaijinsmashnet.wordpress.com/ I loved his blog growing up and it inspired me to go teach English overseas. I really doubt I was the only person who got this idea first from this blog because of him. I had a great time teaching over there and thank him for his work!
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I remember a lot of this stuff posted on Portal of Evil. One that came into peoples memories recently was Alisa-Chan, later Alisa-Kiss. She was a cosplayer who was known for having sexy cosplay photos posted on her site when she was still under aged and taken by her dad. She was popular enough for some artists to use as a model for characters such as Supergirl. She eventually started a softcore website and renamed herself to Alisa-kiss and just became another slightly nerdy and naked girl on the internet. Then Charlottesville happened and she and her Husband were seen marching with the Nazis screaming "Jews will not replace us" and her Husband carrying a shield with nazi symbology on it. Apparently this was a secret to a lot of people, including the guy who ran her site. He pretty much instantly shut the site down and said "wow what a piece of poo poo!!". She pretty much dug her grave and put herself in it during an interview where she was all "well, someone has to defend white people from the fake news" or some other garbage.
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twistedmentat posted:I remember a lot of this stuff posted on Portal of Evil. Wow, I of course remember her and remember being shocked when it came out that those famous Street Fighter Cammy cosplay butt shots were taken by her dad. For some strange reason I am not really shocked that she is all about white power but also had no clue she was still a thing and had a site still going.
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ToxicToast posted:Wow, I of course remember her and remember being shocked when it came out that those famous Street Fighter Cammy cosplay butt shots were taken by her dad. For some strange reason I am not really shocked that she is all about white power but also had no clue she was still a thing and had a site still going. I am curious but also scared to find out how long she was having her dad take her pictures because she did eventually do semi-nude stuff.
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That reminded me of Usagi Kou and her super drama filled Sailor Moon cosplay group. I guess she's still doing cosplay and is on tumblr. I remember all the drama about her being an absolutely atrocious person to live with.
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Tulalip Tulips posted:That reminded me of Usagi Kou and her super drama filled Sailor Moon cosplay group. I guess she's still doing cosplay and is on tumblr. I remember all the drama about her being an absolutely atrocious person to live with. There is a name I haven't heard in a long time. I never knew much about it, but my serious cosplay friends had some beef with her online, though it was 100% started by Kou, who probably just looked at people on cosplay forums that did similar costumes to her and went after them. I was thinking about other Down the Rabbit Hole videos and that reminded me of Spoony. Early youtube had lots of people doing bad game reviews, like its crazy to think AVGN is still going, but everyone focused on console games it seemed and as far as I could tell no one was doing PC game reviews which is hilarious because there were so many bad PC games that dwarfed the console games. I guess the bar for publishing PC games was fairly low, but PCs weren't a common household thing at the time most of these people were growing up so no one thought to do reviews of old FMV CD-Rom games. His early stuff was pretty decent for early youtube, though he did give off the "kid who's a bit too into knives" vibe. He has some great playthroughs of Phantasmagoria 2 and Ripper, and as I said a really good FMV Hell series. Though I guess as he became more popular he started branching out with different videos. I know I stopped watching when he basically just talked about wrestling all the time. Anyways, I saw he moved over to That Guy With Glasses/Channel Awesome but apparently his mental problems and a bunch of other stuff took their toll and he basically turned into a slow motion trainwreck. It is fascinating that some of these people literally started making videos in their basements or bedrooms and if they didn't burn out or let it go to their head or turn out to be sex monsters they built a career out of it. Youtube would not exist for these people but as it became more mainstream it seems to wage an active war against these kinds of creators and favors garbage like 5 minute craft and loves idiots with masks whining about Brie Larsen. A little off topic but all those early youtube creators definitely fit in the criteria of early internet weirdos. EDIT: I checked the wayback machine to see what portal of evil mirrors they had and there's quite a lot. Becuase we're goons, here's the porn page from 2005 https://web.archive.org/web/20041206064427/http://www.portalofevil.com/archives/EntertainmentPornography.html I wonder what the guys who ran Butt Machine Boys are doing these days. twistedmentat has a new favorite as of 10:54 on Jan 2, 2021 |
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