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Alaois posted:you know what, I am completely okay with Justin "The Mad Bomber" Herbert I'm annoyed that some nfl scouts have been right (so far) about him and Josh Allen that you can take a tall strong bad college QB that can't throw accurately and make him a quality nfl qb. I still lol sadly about the really nice article on Allen that brought together analysis from a bunch of different people with the conclusion "if Josh Allen succeeds in the nfl, basic math will have been proven wrong." e: nothing against Allen or Herbert, just sucks that "he looks good in shorts" can point to some drafting success lol
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sourdough posted:I'm annoyed that some nfl scouts have been right (so far) about him and Josh Allen that you can take a tall strong bad college QB that can't throw accurately and make him a quality nfl qb. I still lol sadly about the really nice article on Allen that brought together analysis from a bunch of different people with the conclusion "if Josh Allen succeeds in the nfl, basic math will have been proven wrong." If only Al Davis could of lived long enough to see this come to fruition
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sourdough posted:I'm annoyed that some nfl scouts have been right (so far) about him and Josh Allen that you can take a tall strong bad college QB that can't throw accurately and make him a quality nfl qb. I still lol sadly about the really nice article on Allen that brought together analysis from a bunch of different people with the conclusion "if Josh Allen succeeds in the nfl, basic math will have been proven wrong." Herbert was getting Heisman hype his last two years though. He was always going to be a project but he was, on balance, a good college player on a pretty good team. Allen was just a big guy with a giant arm. And I’d say the jury is still out in him. The Bills have looked like rear end the last 3 weeks and his postseason performance last year was definitely not confidence inspiring. Edit: also, more than anything else I’d say what those guys show is what’s been obvious for a while now, which is that you really need a QB that can make things happen with his legs. Being able to throw on the run and punish defenses who rush too aggressively is the best way to offset how good pass rushers are getting and how poor most o line play is. YOLOsubmarine fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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sourdough posted:I'm annoyed that some nfl scouts have been right (so far) about him and Josh Allen that you can take a tall strong bad college QB that can't throw accurately and make him a quality nfl qb. I still lol sadly about the really nice article on Allen that brought together analysis from a bunch of different people with the conclusion "if Josh Allen succeeds in the nfl, basic math will have been proven wrong." I think the difference is NFL teams seem more willing to coach up a guy year round and tailor personnel and the offence to match a QBs strengths rather than just throwing a guy out there and expecting them to run whatever gently caress playbook from 1987
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Herbert was getting Heisman hype his last two years though. He was always going to be a project but he was, on balance, a good college player on a pretty good team. Allen was just a big guy with a giant arm. And I’d say the jury is still out in him. The Bills have looked like rear end the last 3 weeks and his postseason performance last year was definitely not confidence inspiring. Who was the last young QB drafted that was actually a successful pocket passer? The sun is setting on those types of QBs.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Who was the last young QB drafted that was actually a successful pocket passer? The sun is setting on those types of QBs. Goff... Carr? It's hard to categorize young QBs as "pocket passers" since most young talented QBs can run well and will take the opportunity if they see one.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Goff... Carr? Out of the current starters I guess those two are the most recent, then you get to guys like Stafford and Cousins I guess? Matt Ryan if they don't count? Everyone but Goff and Carr is over 30. Even if you include lovely (or at least likely lovely) QBs, Jones, Trubs, and Darnold can all scoot. I suppose Jimmy G might be the closest other guy and he's not exactly a statue either. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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It usually takes a few seasons to know if a qb is good People thought Wentz, Mariota and Jameis were all good
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Wentz was good for that one year.
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Ehud posted:It usually takes a few seasons to know if a qb is good With the right coach, they can be reclaimed.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Wentz was good for that one year. exactly bro
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Where did Wentz old QB coach end up? I remember he infamously flamed out as OC for the Vikings. Philly need to throw a pile of cash at him to get him back.
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Silly Burrito posted:With the right coach, they can be reclaimed. Who could get Winston to stop being a turnover machine? Who will heal Mariota's many injuries?
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Who could get Winston to stop being a turnover machine? Who will heal Mariota's many injuries? Winston may have that coach now. And injuries can heal, just ask Teddy Bridgewater or Drew Brees.
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I'm so glad to have witnessed the birth of football Malcolm Gladwell, just this blessed moron who everyone is going to award attention for his dumb, precocious takes and the controversy his interesting ideas generate. I am sure he almost certainly realizes on some level it's more complicated than that, and there are like...run fits and all that to consider, but who cares he's getting massive engagement.
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Catfish Noodlin posted:I'm so glad to have witnessed the birth of football Malcolm Gladwell, just this blessed moron who everyone is going to award attention for his dumb, precocious takes and the controversy his interesting ideas generate. That's Ben Baldwin / Cian Fahey's MO too
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Hot Diggity! posted:That's Ben Baldwin / Cian Fahey's MO too Cian Fahey was arguing on Sunday that Tannehill's success in Tennessee is proof that Mariota was an excellent, top tier quarterback.
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I heard OBJ tore his ACL fuuuuuuuckkk
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Aldon Smith for Nick Mullens who says no
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Wentz was good for that one year. His success I think was basically entirely just excellent execution and the newness of RPOs on the NFL stage. That waned, and so did Wentz. That's kinda why I have to look at the new phenomena of the big beautiful throwboy like Allen and Herbert with a jaundiced eye too. NFL defenses are stuck in this area where they've got the arm strength to tear up spot-drop zone coverage and the athletic ability where you're worried about man coverage without a spy, but how many years are you going to get out of that?
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Spoeank posted:Aldon Smith for Nick Mullens who says no Footage of Aldon Smith returning to the 49ers facility: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEb_BV5TAfA
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Catfish Noodlin posted:His success I think was basically entirely just excellent execution and the newness of RPOs on the NFL stage. That waned, and so did Wentz. I mean, this is Roethlisberger's 17th season. I know everybody forgets, but he was basically Wentz or Allen for his first 5 years or so. He ran all the time before his motorcycle accident
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D-LINK posted:I mean, this is Roethlisberger's 17th season. I know everybody forgets, but he was basically Wentz or Allen for his first 5 years or so. He ran all the time before his motorcycle accident That ol gray dick, he ain’t what he used to be
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D-LINK posted:I mean, this is Roethlisberger's 17th season. I know everybody forgets, but he was basically Wentz or Allen for his first 5 years or so. He ran all the time before his motorcycle accident I feel like Wentz and Allen (definitely Allen) both run to gain yards more than Ben ever did though. Ben ran around a lot, but he always had that thing where he just wouldn't take off and was waiting for goddamned ever for a receiver to come open. Unless your argument is just that he was mobile, in which case yeah he definitely was in addition to being strong as hell. e: different league at the time too, I'm sure today he would be intentionally used as a runner a lot more often. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Oct 26, 2020 |
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Grittybeard posted:I feel like Wentz and Allen (definitely Allen) both run to gain yards more than Ben ever did though. Well, the first few seasons, he would take off running too. You're thinking of like 2007-2012 when he was running around the backfield shrugging of DTs. You're right, it was a different league then, so it wasn't as frequent as Wentz or Allen, but he ran for first downs quite a bit early on
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FizFashizzle posted:this dude was cut lmao immediately I love how coaches and GMs don't hesitate to cut practice squadders and camp bodies to show that they're "serious!" and then turn around and give special treatment to their favorite players
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I think the evidence is quite clear that “succeed in the NFL” is such a nebulous standard that the only way you can get someone to agree that they were wrong about a player is if they either win back-to-back Super Bowl MVPs or get cut two years into their rookie contract without ever having seen the field.
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FizFashizzle posted:this dude was cut lmao immediately Like everyone else with money* in america right now, just super fuckin' mad they can't go out and spend it the way they want to. *also plenty of idiots without money doing the same I suppose
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OxySnake posted:If only Al Davis could of lived long enough to see this come to fruition Also Gruden would probably grab every QB project anyways if there were enough roster spots. SKULL.GIF posted:Goff... Carr? Anyway, I don't think I saw this posted yet, season ending COVID infection: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30187081/sources-jacksonville-jaguars-rb-ryquell-armstead-battling-covid-19-expected-miss-rest-season quote:While most NFL players have recovered quickly from COVID-19, Jacksonville Jaguars running back Ryquell Armstead has not. 
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