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A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

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Badger of Basra posted:

You can't create one country of cities and one country of the rural areas in between them which is what the actual divide is, rather than states
Not with that attitude.

Really though, why not? There's historical and current precedent for city states, as well as places where people have to cross borders every day to go to work/school, even in the US!

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A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

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Flip Yr Wig posted:

City states didn't literally end at the city walls.
The US isn't neatly divided into urban and rural either though. Some degree of control over their immediate environs as part of the divorce settlement is only natural.

Relevant Tangent posted:

Because the rural areas of this country want to crush the urban areas. It's not enough to be left alone to be god-bothering gay hating bigots, the rest of us have to be culturally aligned with them too or else we'll inevitably seduce their children and grandchildren with our freedom loving ways. Genuinely, a not insignificant chunk of Americans want a theocracy that reflects their understanding of God or they want to kill whoever doesn't want that until they get that. You're essentially proposing that we make future generations of Americans born into rural hellholes have to plan an escape and successfully flee to a different country. That's not a tenable situation, two countries that are that badly divided are going to war if they're neighbors.
This is not a can't situation, this is a "this is a bad idea" situation.

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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

The only two current independent city states are located at the busiest shipping lane in the entire world and the other atop a massive reserve of oil. Both really only exist because of a quirk in how Britain organized its Malaysian colonies anyway and aren't really "natural".
You forgot Monaco and the Vatican.

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

An independent minneapolis for example would be blockaded and crushed by red minnesota fairly quickly. New York, LA, San Francisco and Houston with mayyybee Miami Boston and Seattle could probably exist independently and just import food. Everywhere else? I doubt it and with the exception of Miami and Houston those cities completely dominate their states politics anyway.
This is under the Red Vs. Blue scenario. It could still work in a sorta-amicable divorce scenario.

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