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The Oldest Man posted:Strong suggest you and others read the first couple chapters of V.S. McAlester's A Field Guide to American Houses for baby-level information about the gestation of the American suburb and its physical forms before opining this. Suburbs were the de facto pattern of urban development before cars even existed, and long before 1920. If you have a train line going into your neighborhood, I wouldn't call you an "exurb". People may choose to work a job distant from their home via train, but if there's a train line then there's going to be more than one stop between you and it. When people talk about US exurbs we are talking about the communities 100 miles out from any real cities, the kind of place where describing it would be doxxing myself, because knowing them by name requires you to have lived within 15 miles of it. There are tons of places like that all over the Midwest, where the urban cores are hollowed out and the suburbs have sprawled as much as they are inclined to and the only reason there are housing developments beyond that is because the land wasn't arable or people had an inflated opinion of their ability to create a community. There are so many places that are more defined by the name of the highway exit they exist on than whatever name the community gave itself, and if that's not what you mean by "exurb" we need yet another distinguishing term to bridge the gap between exurb and rural.
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The Oldest Man posted:You only think having a commuter rail stop makes you a real place/community with its own identity because you've never lived in a place that just built those habitually the way we build highway exits. Ish? I mean, I don't disagree that the US is laid out in a way that is structurally unsound, but if we are talking about US geography I don't really see what the point of comparing a country laid out in a completely different way is. The poster you were responding to was talking about the US-style "this community barely has a name" exurbs, to the best of my knowledge Japan doesn't have any area even approaching the lower end of US population density and it's a weird thing to try to police the definition of in a US-centric thread
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