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Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Still Dismal posted:

The actual people are a lot less divided than our stupid loving governing structures make it look.

The solution is actual democracy and things like proportional representation , not a turning the continent into mega-balkans.

Honestly, if the US got proportional representation...the a far-right "Trump" party would get like 42-45% of the vote, and everything else would be a hodgepodge. Foreign journalists who have been living in the US for years were commenting that they have never seen the country this divided and it is starting to look like other countries with harden political divisions.

I don't know if a break-up would actually work (it would be chaos honestly), but that doesn't mean things aren't going to get ugly.

forkboy84 posted:

The car. The suburb doesn't happen without the car.

Eh, other places had cars, it wasn't just that.

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Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Granted, unlike a country with an ethnic/linguistic/religious split where at least you can identity either side, the issue for the US is pretty multifaceted.

It isn't just a cultural, religion, urban/rural, religious or even regional divide, but it is pretty much everything thrown together at the same time. There is absolutely plenty of division if not growing hatred but there isn't the firm dividing lines to allow separation. Also, plenty of visible minorities live in rural counties as well, a "city-state" solution wouldn't necessarily work and neither all regions monolithic (look at Georgia).

That said, it is going to be hard to see that politics just reset to where they were pre-Trump or someone won't try to follow in his footsteps at some point. I could easily see the recent calls about voter fraud eventually become a "stab in the back" like myth.

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