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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

We all should eat a victory Frito pie.

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skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Red posted:

This, and the fact that Abrams has teams of smart people working under her. It's not all one person.

Take it from her!

https://twitter.com/staceyabrams/status/1346854632363012097?s=21

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Mykroft posted:

Small procedure question here that maybe is more appropriate for USPOL - what's to stop Mitch from filibustering any bills that come up and effectively blocking everything that way? Is the difference that R senators are more accountable for not helping to break it vs. them having no opportunity to say anything either way because it just never came up?

The Democrats can set up a cloture vote and force rank and file republicans to vote in support of a filibuster against (bill people want). As majority leader, Mitch was able to protect his members from unpopular votes. He can't do that anymore.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Mykroft posted:

Small procedure question here that maybe is more appropriate for USPOL - what's to stop Mitch from filibustering any bills that come up and effectively blocking everything that way? Is the difference that R senators are more accountable for not helping to break it vs. them having no opportunity to say anything either way because it just never came up?

Correct, absent filibuster reform most things will be DOA in the senate without the support of 10 republicans.

But, as mentioned above, you can force them to vote against cloture, and you can use procedural mechanisms like reconciliation to make a small number of bills unfilibusterable. And judicial nominees are not filibusterable.

Also, it's possible there might be momentum for filibuster reform after months of getting nothing done this year: you can do things like go back to a "talking filibuster" that might intuitively sound good and popular to the American populace (people remember Mr. Smith Goes To Washington and think the filibuster is still like that, even though it isn't) and actually would make it much harder to do constantly.

(not saying anyone's secretly champing at the bit to kill the filibuster, but it's possible the political landscape changes with enough gridlock that we can blame on republicans in the coming months)

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

Wasserman has seen enough 3 times now, I think it's over

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1346859120083824644?s=19

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
https://twitter.com/amybwang/status/1346859623316393985?s=20

Pissed.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

Shageletic posted:

I feel like Stacey is getting too much credit. Grassroots activists, either from youth groups or backed by Church orgs, is what pushed this, just like Latino orgs in Arizona helped turn that state in the wave of activism that occurred in the wake of extremely racist anti-Latino legislation.

She deserves every single ounce of recognition and respect she is getting, as do every other organizer in georgia. Nobody is going unrecognized. It's pretty rich criticism coming from you.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
*I wistfully stare in the middle distance as the sound of a hopeful Willie Nelson song slowly sadly fades into the fog*
*I wipe a single tear away as I sit down quietly*
*then in the distance a new sound is heard, gradually it grows louder*
*I lift my head up and turn to hear*

"Uh-cracka, lacka-lacka-lacka, cracka, lacka-lacka-lacka
Uh-huh, baby, uh-huh, yeah, yeah

A HUH, HUSH THAT FUSS"

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

How are u posted:

She deserves every single ounce of recognition and respect she is getting, as do every other organizer in georgia. Nobody is going unrecognized. It's pretty rich criticism coming from you.

Do not make personal attacks, please.

Wylie
Jun 27, 2005

Ever to conquer, never to yield.


https://twitter.com/marytylerpoor/status/1324697870776356864?s=20

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007


Wtf did Lewis do that had people so upset?

Cpt_Obvious fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jan 6, 2021

Coredump
Dec 1, 2002

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Wtf did Lewis do that had people so upset?

Is this a tongue in cheek post or are you asking this in seriousness? I honestly can't tell.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Coredump posted:

Is this a tongue in cheek post or are you asking this in seriousness? I honestly can't tell.

It was a joke. That meme made it appear as though Lewis was the devil and Stacey was johnnie.

Edit: especially with his eyes closed in apparent submission.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Updated, just playing around

Wylie
Jun 27, 2005

Ever to conquer, never to yield.


Cpt_Obvious posted:

It was a joke. That meme made it appear as though Lewis was the devil and Stacey was johnnie.

Edit: especially with his eyes closed in apparent submission.

He's literally John Lewis. He's Johnny.

BDawg
May 19, 2004

In Full Stereo Symphony
https://twitter.com/keisean/status/1346854558476079104?s=21

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Wylie posted:

He's literally John Lewis. He's Johnny.

...then Stacey is the devil?

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

this is boring, i’m bored

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

How are u posted:

She deserves every single ounce of recognition and respect she is getting, as do every other organizer in georgia. Nobody is going unrecognized. It's pretty rich criticism coming from you.

Hmmm?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Sounding pretty toxic my friend.

Kraftwerk
Aug 13, 2011
i do not have 10,000 bircoins, please stop asking

BrianBoitano posted:

Updated, just playing around



Can someone explain this?

Wylie
Jun 27, 2005

Ever to conquer, never to yield.


Cpt_Obvious posted:

...then Stacey is the devil?

Honestly all I wanted was the tweet with Abrams in it, but Twitter quoting sucks balls and grabs what it's replying to without asking.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Kraftwerk posted:

Can someone explain this?

Sherman tank
Abrams tank

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Petr posted:

Is anyone in the DNC looking to replicate this in, say, Texas or Ohio?

Probably not, huh?

Upside: the Texas Democratic Party seems rather interested in this.

Downside: it's the Texas Democratic Party.

upside: starting tomorrow i'm going to be bugging people to get involved for the incredibly boring 2022 state convention and other general internal party stuff

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Kraftwerk posted:

Can someone explain this?

Sherman the person literally burnt Georgia to the ground. Abrams the person metaphorically burnt the political establishment of Georgia to the ground.

The Sherman was a tank used by the US during WW2. The Abrams tank is the main tank used by the US today.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

GreyjoyBastard posted:

Upside: the Texas Democratic Party seems rather interested in this.

Downside: it's the Texas Democratic Party.

upside: starting tomorrow i'm going to be bugging people to get involved for the incredibly boring 2022 state convention and other general internal party stuff

It was worrying how well Trump did with traditionally Dem areas in Texas. Correct me if I'm wrong. What could be done to turn things around there?

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
So, when will the count finish? I haven't really seen any sort of movement for the past 12 hours or so.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

cant cook creole bream posted:

So, when will the count finish? I haven't really seen any sort of movement for the past 12 hours or so.

Overseas and military ballots have until Friday. Final counts won't be available until then.

I have no idea when other ballots will drop otherwise.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

Shageletic posted:

It was worrying how well Trump did with traditionally Dem areas in Texas. Correct me if I'm wrong. What could be done to turn things around there?

Well, the Georgia lesson is that the Democratic enthusiasm can be maintained while Republican turnout craters without Trump.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

Majorian said to cut it out, so feel free to PM me.

Warcabbit
Apr 26, 2008

Wedge Regret
Well, things are happening in Washington DC, but unsurprisingly, things seem to be happening in GA as well.

https://twitter.com/AmyEGardner/status/1346899227964813314

Hm. Didn't seem to embed right, so a WaPo reporter is saying "Militia members have gathered outside the Georgia Capitol. Brad Raffensperger and senior staff have been escorted out to safety."
E: Well _now_ it works.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

I don’t watch it or care about any of the people on it aside from Whoopi, but I kinda love that The View has sort of morphed into 4 Old Ladies Piss Off John McCain’s Daughter over the last three-ish years.

It’s loving great.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

How are u posted:

Majorian said to cut it out, so feel free to PM me.

no thank you.

Morrow posted:

Well, the Georgia lesson is that the Democratic enthusiasm can be maintained while Republican turnout craters without Trump.

Here's hoping!

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Shageletic posted:

no thank you.

Please don't try to provoke fights either.

nine-gear crow posted:

I don’t watch it or care about any of the people on it aside from Whoopi, but I kinda love that The View has sort of morphed into 4 Old Ladies Piss Off John McCain’s Daughter over the last three-ish years.

It’s loving great.

The best part is that she totally knows this is as good as it's going to get for her. She knows she could have just kept the "moderate Republican whisperer" grift going with gullible, well-meaning doofuses like Michael Ian Black (who tbf I do like as a comedian), but no - she took the gig as the youngish racist white lady on The View, and now she's going to be pigeonholed for it.

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Warcabbit posted:

Well, things are happening in Washington DC, but unsurprisingly, things seem to be happening in GA as well.

https://twitter.com/AmyEGardner/status/1346899227964813314

Hm. Didn't seem to embed right, so a WaPo reporter is saying "Militia members have gathered outside the Georgia Capitol. Brad Raffensperger and senior staff have been escorted out to safety."
E: Well _now_ it works.

Privately organized and/or unorganized armed groups aren't militias WaPo, you dinguses, they need to be governmentally authorized and organized units! :argh:

Unless you're referring to "the militia," as a collective whole, in which case every group of male citizens 17 to 45 is a militia.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Imagine if the runoff was today

Or tomorrow

lwoodio
Apr 4, 2008

NBC just called it for Ossoff.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

lwoodio posted:

NBC just called it for Ossoff.

ABC called it too. Dems have the Senate.

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Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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nine-gear crow posted:

ABC called it too. Dems have the Senate.

How could something so important seem so small 24 hours later? I know, it is a big deal. But Jesus Christ.

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