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Hello, here's a thread about my new-to-me 2019 Lamborghini Huracan LP580-2 Spyder. In here I'll offer up the minutiae of my ~Lamborghini ownership~ to pay forward the years of entertainment & knowledge I've picked up from AI. This particular car was offered for sale by Lamborghini Dallas, who put up a walkaround video of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWC-fcsUTco. I did indeed buy it sight unseen, always a risky move at the best of times, but the dealership has a great reputation in the community. Also they sell 20+ cars a month, mostly to out-of-state purchasers who rarely visit the dealership, so I figured I was going to be in good company  Shipping the car was a real nail biter: I could hardly contain my excitement and agitation for the 10 days it took from signing the docs and wiring the money to actually receiving the car on a late Sunday night. I had no idea it would take several days just to secure a transport company and then several more days to have the car picked up (I had these fantasies in my head of putting a request in and having the transport driver just pick it up like magic). Then I ended up sitting by the phone all weekend waiting for the call from the driver, having canceled all plans to make sure I wouldn't miss it The first couple of weeks of ownership have been spectacular. I've scraped the nose a lot. I've had to untrain myself from stabbing the gas - a bad habit from a lifetime of driving much less powerful cars - because of this car's ability to break traction at will, even at highway speeds. I've never been asked so many times if I was a YouTuber, and confessed so many times that I have never posted anything on social media. I now redline it in every tunnel I drive through (unless the oil is cold). I spend the work week itching for the weekend and praying for dry weather (a dicey thing this time of year) so I can get in my Lambo. I am madly in love with the car.  There's many specific things about this car that I love, most of which you'll be aware of if you've watched any of the car review videos that are all over YouTube. The incredibly low height that makes Ferraris look tall. The classic Gandini profile, unmistakably Lamborghini, with a steeply raked windshield that stretches out in front of you for miles. Those creases on the frunk lid that call back to the Countach. The super fast, super light steering (like a Mercedes!) but with enough extra feedback to be very, very satisfying. The surprisingly stiff chassis that betrays not a hint of cowl shake (*cough* 458 Spyder *cough*). The engine that feels like it's out of a muscle car - happy to pull from 1,500 rpm in 7th - but that also screams like a race engine all the way up to almost 9,000 rpm (the limiter is very permissive) But there are also a few other things that I find really interesting that I haven't seen anyone talk about  The view from the side mirrors is gorgeous. Every time you look in them you see the car's muscular haunches sticking out, but also these amazing angles and creases that proclaim its singular identity. The mirrors are also really broad and good for visibility, which is actually excellent with the top down. You sit so low in the car that when you look out the back, you're looking up towards the sky. But because the car itself is so low, you can see the tops of other cars/SUVs/trucks over the flying buttresses (not like say my long gone Pontiac Solstice, where the buttresses would hide other cars)  The need for the oil temperature gauge is obvious. I pretty much keep it below 4,500 rpm until the oil's at 90C. But I didn't realize how much I would appreciate being able to see the battery voltage. 14V means the battery is actively charging (i.e. not full), ~12.7-13V means the battery is fully charged, and below that is bad news bears. If I plan to leave the car for a long period, I know to drive it until I see that the battery is full  There are a few silly things that provide character. Like the center console, a completely exposed afterthought with barely room for an iPhone 8 Plus. The 12V socket? Why it's at the very back of the tray, with the connectors for the infotainment just sort of hanging out in the general area. Oh and also the insultingly tiny armrest that doesn't even move (I paid 6 figures for this car, what do you mean I don't get a proper arm rest?) - which to their credit actually works because it's barely large enough and precisely where it needs to be  Beneath the center console we find the world's tiniest storage compartment. It is about 3/4 inch deep and just sufficiently big around to store my garage fob. The rest, apart from some handy pads to rest your knees against (with beautiful contrast stitching), is completely wasted space because of course a cubic foot of storage would be far too logical to put in a Lamborghini. Finally there's no picture of this but I was unable to fit the manual in the glovebox, so I've taken it out of the car. Weight reduction! For now I've scheduled a comprehensive once-over from a local Lamborghini specialist, a complete wash + clay, and then paint protection film on every painted surface. I'm also starting to look into track days/auto x. I also plan to write more in the coming weeks. Here's a list of topics that I'll work through, but if you all have any questions just post 
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With your mention of track days and auto-x, do you have any plans to put in a roll bar? Do the humps on the back count enough for safety checks? Also, that is a very pretty color.
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Nov 9, 2020 01:26
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Elmnt80 posted:With your mention of track days and auto-x, do you have any plans to put in a roll bar? Do the humps on the back count enough for safety checks? Thank you! The color (Celeste Phoebe) was my #1 reason to pick this particular car. It's still eye-catching and a bit different - as expected from a Lambo - but doesn't stab you in the eye like say Verde Shock or Arancio Livrea. Also I love that it is basically Italy's national color (technically Azzurro not Celeste, but this shade is close enough) To be honest the roll bar thing is one thing I did not check before buying the car. I'm assuming all the different tracks/organizers will be fine with it, and have in my time seen cars on track like the 911 cab. Also because of the height of the humps I do pass the broomstick test (it's nice to be short)
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Nov 9, 2020 01:56
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Great thread. It's nice to see someone excited about a car... whether it's a beater or a Lambo. Looking forward to more updates.
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Nov 9, 2020 02:33
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That's a gorgeous colour. Does it take a hard-to-find tire size? I remember a Ford GT owner complaining about not being able to buy rear tires for it in Canada.
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Nov 9, 2020 03:08
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Seat Safety Switch posted:That's a gorgeous colour. Does it take a hard-to-find tire size? I remember a Ford GT owner complaining about not being able to buy rear tires for it in Canada. Along the same vein as general maintenance items and based on the thread title (which is excellent), how much of the Lambo is actually Italian and how much is borrowed from other VAG vehicles? For example, due to Fords ownership of Aston Martin at the time, the fuel pump in a Vanquish has a Ford F-250 part number. Are regular (or semi-regular) maintenance items shared with other vehicles to take advantage of the economies of scale and thus reduce the cost? Either way, absolutely excellent choice in color and driveline (RWD supremacy).
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Nov 9, 2020 03:27
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Great color and sexy as gently caress. Thanks for sharing it.
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Nov 9, 2020 03:44
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I was excited to see another Scirocco when I read the title. This is... Not a Scirocco. Super cool car, and it's neat to see one posted with honesty. I'd love to know what the ongoing maintenance costs are.
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Nov 9, 2020 04:52
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Super cool and interesting thread (title is :chefkiss:) And very interesting to see some not-so-commonly-covered details.
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Nov 9, 2020 20:38
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neat ride, were you asking in the car buying thread recently about what to buy? glad you got what you wanted hook a brother up with some gauge cluster shots
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Nov 9, 2020 21:18
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:neat ride, were you asking in the car buying thread recently about what to buy? glad you got what you wanted  I don't know much about lambos but I'd suggest not to do this: https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_qjjlx0aTrp1r0uzl6.mp4
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mobby_6kl posted:If yes then I think they wanted to daily it too I was thinking of adding that as a challenge to this thread. 
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:hook a brother up with some gauge cluster shots The gauge cluster has three modes, and a passing resemblance to the Audi R8/TT/etc virtual cockpit displays. Having said that, I think Lamborghini have managed to inject their own flair into the design.  This is the mode you're supposed to be using, with the tach squarely in the center. You'll see that the redline is tied to the water temperature, and currently restricted to 6k. I wish they would set it more conservatively - the engine just tempts you to wind it out in 2nd and I've had to catch myself a few times. There are Italian words all over the display, because Lamborghini. You'll see that the front-end lift is deployed, which is pretty much a reflex of mine when I'm in the city these days since it is happy to stay up at anything short of highway speeds. The Lamborghini logo on the left 'tab' of the display turns into navigation directions when you have a destination programmed and I quite like that - it reminds me of Porsche's navigation system in the 987/997. This is also the first and only car I've ever been in that displays outside temperature to one decimal point, which is silly, but I've come round to it. Finally, you'll see that while certain idiot lights are virtual, others are actual lights (including the all-important CEL)  This is the ugliest mode: everything shoved awkwardly to the sides to make way for a frame in the middle showing Audi's previous generation infotainment*. Just look at the way the front-end lift icon is crammed between the tach and the bezel. Such sprezzatura! * the small screen in the center console does not do infotainment. It does show climate control info when you twiddle the knobs/buttons though  Annoyingly this entirely tachless mode is the only mode that Carplay will work in. You'd think they could cram it into the frame in the previous mode, but nope. Your workaround: select 'Menu' to go back to the previous mode, hold the 'Down' button to get to the first mode. Then for maximum frustration the gauge cluster will automatically switch back to this mode the next time you receive a notification.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:That's a gorgeous colour. Does it take a hard-to-find tire size? I remember a Ford GT owner complaining about not being able to buy rear tires for it in Canada. 245/35/19 and 305/35/19 Not super crazy as far as tire sizes go - you can get Michelin PS4S, which everyone swears by, though I might consider the PSS instead. I'll leave off the Sport Cup 2s for when I actually master the handling... Also the 19" wheels on this car were another big reason to get this one - many of the cars I looked at had 20s. If you think Porsche tend to nickel and dime on options, try paying $11K extra for a set of 20" wheels
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McTinkerson posted:Along the same vein as general maintenance items and based on the thread title (which is excellent), how much of the Lambo is actually Italian and how much is borrowed from other VAG vehicles? It's a good question I honestly don't know. The interior has Audi parts sprinkled all over (door locks, parking brake switch, DVD/SD card slots, etc) and I think big chunks of the drivetrain (5.2L engine, DCT transmission, brakes) are direct carryovers from the R8. On the other hand, I'm not sure if I'm going to be saving much money if it's R8 parts we're talking about. Also maintenance costs are in large part driven by labor hours - just take a look at the work needed to change the oil in these things (8 drain plugs  )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ps5ffZHVYk sharkytm posted:I was excited to see another Scirocco when I read the title. This is... Not a Scirocco. Super cool car, and it's neat to see one posted with honesty. I'd love to know what the ongoing maintenance costs are. Something like $500-850 for a basic oil change service at least once a year (or ~3,500 miles). Lower end at an independent, higher end at a dealer Double the fuel capacity and half the mileage of my Mazda3, so the only difference is $60 gas station visits instead of $30 lol $4,500 per year for comprehensive insurance (married, no accidents, all my tickets have fallen off, parked in a secure garage). Oh well... In any case I'll be tracking all the expenses and will keep you all posted
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Nov 10, 2020 07:16
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hows the transmissions and ergonomics? i drove a 360 (yeah i know its a lot older) and those two things stood out to me as awful to the point of never wanting a supercar lol
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Nov 10, 2020 07:49
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McTinkerson posted:For example, due to Fords ownership of Aston Martin at the time, the fuel pump in a Vanquish has a Ford F-250 part number. this is true even regardless of ownership of brands because there are really only so many T1 suppliers that will bang together a fuel pump (or whatever) for you got off on a technicality posted:The gauge cluster has three modes, and a passing resemblance to the Audi R8/TT/etc virtual cockpit displays. Having said that, I think Lamborghini have managed to inject their own flair into the design. holy hell that CarPlay implementation is bad. for a minute i thought you had just set your phone on the face of the gauge cluster. this is the content i crave. i also crave a video winding it out in a tunnel.
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Nov 10, 2020 14:24
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got off on a technicality posted:(8 drain plugs loving WHAT
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Nov 10, 2020 14:55
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Cool car! Any thoughts on how long are you planning on hanging on to it? How's the warranty/coverage?
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Nov 10, 2020 15:04
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Ahaha that's insane for an oil change. Weird fiddly bits and maintenance is awesome. If you go to a track day are they ready stock or do you need to upgrade / change anything?
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Nov 10, 2020 15:14
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Love the color and the fact that you're planning on bringing it to the track. Why spyder instead of hardtop? Thanks for making a thread and chronicling your adventures. I think you mentioned your last car being a cayman in the post your ride thread, how did you like it overall? I've been having stupid ideas about getting one as a DD that sees occasional track duty.
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A friend of mine does human interface stuff for research and was asked over to Lamborghini to 'rate' their Urus in terms of usability and by all accounts it's a complete trashfire. The interior in this looks pretty well laid out though with no bizarre levers for the gears/drive mode selection. How intuitive have you found it day to day? Like you can get used to cars but is there anything there that's glaringly in the wrong place for you?
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big dong wanter posted:hows the transmissions... One other flaw tends to come out on the street: the transmission can get a bit confused when shifting under light throttle. As you know the transmission needs to accurately anticipate the next gear in the sequence and prime itself accordingly. If it guesses right and you shift, you get a near instantaneous & smooth shift (out of Corsa mode and at part throttle the shifts are just buttery). If it guesses wrong, it takes a split second to move the gears around, and you get a bit of hesitation that's all the more noticeable when compared to how the shifts normally are big dong wanter posted:and ergonomics? Olympic Mathlete posted:A friend of mine does human interface stuff for research and was asked over to Lamborghini to 'rate' their Urus in terms of usability and by all accounts it's a complete trashfire. The interior in this looks pretty well laid out though with no bizarre levers for the gears/drive mode selection. How intuitive have you found it day to day? Like you can get used to cars but is there anything there that's glaringly in the wrong place for you? To me the most interesting thing about the ergonomics is how upright the seats force you to be. My very first track day, many years ago, my instructor was this guy Emilio Cervantes, a highly successful Spec Miata racer. The very first piece of advice he gave me was to sit bolt upright so that my inner ears would function best, and for maximum visibility. I whined for a second about how weird it felt, and he gave me this tolerant, zen-like look, like are you going to listen or are you going to choose to be a clown, and I shut up. Ever since then I have always sat completely upright in every car I've owned. Anyway, my point is that I really appreciate the seats, even though they make my shoulders hurt after 3-4 hours in them as the bolstering is a little aggressive up there But the biggest issue I have with the ergonomics are the shifter buttons. If you're in automatic mode, there are three ways to switch to manual mode: you can pull one of the shifter paddles, you can switch to Corsa, or you can push the "M" button (see pic)  Once you switch to manual mode, this setting persists even after you restart the car. Even if you switch out of Corsa mode. There is only one way to get back to automatic mode: push the "M" button. The problem is with the button itself. It has a lot of travel to it, and a very mushy detent, which means that button pushes sometimes don't register. So you think you've successfully switched into automatic mode, and the next thing you know you're doing 8,500 rpm on the street on the way to the next stoplight and everyone thinks you're a giant rear end in a top hat (a problem that is compounded by having the top down lol)  The second biggest issue I have are the toggle switches on the steering wheel for the turn signals and the wipers. The turn signals work like those on a bike - you slide left to signal left, and vice versa, and push to cancel. So far so good, and it works well. The problem is that it's so different from how every other car does it, with stalks, that it's contaminating my muscle memory. I go to change lanes in my Mazda3 and end up twitching my thumb uselessly. In the end I prefer the Ferrari way (a combo push button/trigger for each side) - it comes naturally after multiple long drives in the Portofino/Roma, and has not invaded my muscle memory The problem does get worse with the wipers. You slide right to increase the speed of the wipe, and vice versa, and push to cancel. But the issue is you get no feedback as to the state the wipers are in, other than actually observing the wipers. There are no blinking signal lights, no sounds, etc. You can't feel for the position of the stalk either. So you have to constantly devote space in your brain to remember the state of the wipers, and it's a distraction that you don't need when driving a near-600hp beast in the wet Other than that it's pretty peachy
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i also crave a video winding it out in a tunnel.
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That is one of the things I love about my recently acquired Porsche. When I look in the mirrors, I see rear haunches falling away, and when I look forward, I see the tops of the front haunches over the dash. One of those things that puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. Love the color, it's perfect for the design... Congrats on driving the dream!
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Nov 11, 2020 05:59
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honda whisperer posted:If you go to a track day are they ready stock or do you need to upgrade / change anything? Residency Evil posted:Any thoughts on how long are you planning on hanging on to it? How's the warranty/coverage? My spouse is betting that it'll be gone in <5 years, but I'd love to hang on to it indefinitely. There is this one famous 188,000 mile Huracan from an exotic car rental place in Vegas that gives me hope that this car can indeed last NitroSpazzz posted:Love the color and the fact that you're planning on bringing it to the track. Why spyder instead of hardtop? Thanks for making a thread and chronicling your adventures. The Cayman was lovely and I recommend it to anyone trying to balance daily driver duties with track days. There are some gotchas that you need to be careful with if you're tracking it - replace the drilled rotors with blanks, check the power steering fluid level every track day - the hoses may weep fluid especially when it's hot out, be aware of the oiling weaknesses (very sticky tires can be dangerous). Will do a long post on my Cayman at some point got off on a technicality fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Nov 11, 2020 |
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Nov 11, 2020 06:42
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Baby blue, and a V10 too - it's a Huracan hullabaloo
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Today I brought the car to an independent for a PPI, except post-purchase They lifted it up, and I expected the front to be all scraped up and gross from all my accidental bottoming out over the past few weeks. Nope, it looks pristine. Instead, they showed me where the trim in the wheel wells was literally bulging with accumulated rocks and grit hurled by the fat 305 rear tires. Apparently if you let that go on for too long it breaks the trim, so catastrophe averted. As it is, they removed like a cup full of the stuff Speaking of rocks, the front side radiator fins are looking surprisingly banged up. The LP610-4 and Performante have grills in place that protect both side radiators, but the LP580-2 just has gaping holes (see below). Obviously this is a concern at the track - I don't want my first trip into a gravel trap to cost me thousands of dollars in hosed radiators  The middle radiator does have a discreet looking plastic piece in front of it to protect the fins. I have no idea why they didn't do the same for the side radiators, but the shop is going to order a few of these, cut them up, and install them on the side radiators They looked at the transmission computer readings to evaluate clutch life. The system outputs a %, but this particular tech likes to read the measurements out of the computer and come to his own evaluation. Apparently the clutch has been babied and is just barely worn at this point. I've been warned, though, that it will only last 10,000 or so track miles if I beat on the car  The brakes and rotors are >95%, and the tech says the pads should stand up pretty well to track use. We'll see Finally, my tow hook license plate mount was interfering with the park sensors so they modified it to shift a couple of inches to the left, and it's all good now Total damage: $165, which is less than I thought for 2.5h worth of work. I'll definitely be back angryrobots posted:Baby blue, and a V10 too - it's a Huracan hullabaloo 
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Some eye candy at the shop: It has the Performante rear, but the wing doesn't quite match and it's missing the tricolor stripe at the bottom of the doors. Those wheels are strangely compelling  Beautiful 360 in, I believe, Swaters Blue. The 360, at least in manual form, was on my list along with the F430 and I still am tempted to this day  Getting the car washed, clayed, and waxed before having paint protection film applied. Lots of mud on the underside of the door sills, and dirt on the plastic rear trim (drove it 7 hours in the rain to get it registered lol)
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got off on a technicality posted:But the biggest issue I have with the ergonomics are the shifter buttons. If you're in automatic mode, there are three ways to switch to manual mode: you can pull one of the shifter paddles, you can switch to Corsa, or you can push the "M" button (see pic) Hmm, so it has a specific button to switch to manual but nothing to denote it's also used to switch back to automatic? I'm assuming there's something on the dash to say which mode you're in but still. Slight oversight hence you bashing the revs  Lamborghini designers do love odd little paddles that do stuff, reverse on that is mad. Urus control setup is completely insane though, buttons and levers to the nth degree. got off on a technicality posted:
I'm assuming the toggles are just there for convenience and the fact it's a paddle shift so you can't really put them on the wheel anymore. I'd never actually considered this though and now I'm wondering how they do it in other paddle equipped cars. Thanks for entertaining questions, car's awesome, enjoy!
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So what does a 850 dollar oil change involve? Is it some exotic lamborghini-only oil? Is the process just extraordinarily involved? Or is it just "You have a lamborghini, we both know you can afford this"? Don't mean it in a snarky way, genuinely curious.
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Slugworth posted:So what does a 850 dollar oil change involve? Is it some exotic lamborghini-only oil? Is the process just extraordinarily involved? Or is it just "You have a lamborghini, we both know you can afford this"? Don't mean it in a snarky way, genuinely curious. got off on a technicality posted:8 drain plugs
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Slugworth posted:So what does a 850 dollar oil change involve? Is it some exotic lamborghini-only oil? Is the process just extraordinarily involved? Or is it just "You have a lamborghini, we both know you can afford this"? Don't mean it in a snarky way, genuinely curious. From https://www.huracantalk.com/forums/ask-a-lamborghini-tech/2349-oil-change.html quote:First of all, this may not be something you want to do yourself. It will require putting the car up on a lift. There are a total of 57 fasteners that need to be removed to gain access to the engine oil drains. Then there are a total of eight different oil drains that require five different tools. Budget 2 to 3 hours for the first time you do this.
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Jesus Christ. BEAUTIFUL car OP, but that much work just for an oil change scares me. 
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NitroSpazzz posted:From https://www.huracantalk.com/forums/ask-a-lamborghini-tech/2349-oil-change.html loving After buying a lift and all necessary sockets, you'd probably come out ahead after what, the third oil change?
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:loving assuming you managed to not gently caress anything up maybe
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Is it good or bad that I have all of those tools in my house, as we speak?
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Is the problem that it's a dry sump, or what? I've heard similar horror stories from dry-sumped exotics before since it's so difficult to get all the old oil out - lots of low points - and that seems to be the case here too. I mean obviously at least half of the problem is removing the underbody tray.
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Surely there was a way to simplify and add lightness to a MAINTENANCE PROCEDURE that didn’t induce 57 fasteners, what the gently caress
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I mean if it was me I'd be sitting down with a roll of synflex tube and a handful of brass fittings and Fumoto valves but also it's probably nice to get up in there on a fairly regular basis to make sure those trays aren't carrying 200lb of road debris around or full of coolant/oil/whatever fluid the DSG takes.
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