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Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


Boaz MacPhereson posted:

loving :lol:

After buying a lift and all necessary sockets, you'd probably come out ahead after what, the third oil change?

No, because then you just tanked the resale value of the car by not having every single service documented through a dealership. Now if it was a "I'm driving this loving thing until the wheels fall off" deal, then imo go ham.

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randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Elmnt80 posted:

No, because then you just tanked the resale value of the car by not having every single service documented through a dealership. Now if it was a "I'm driving this loving thing until the wheels fall off" deal, then imo go ham.

Pretty much typed exactly this, then scrolled down and saw your page snipe. :v:

A specialist shop that only works on these cars is usually an acceptable replacement for the dealer when you go to sell it. It does sound like OP is actually driving the car though (as it should be!), so there may be some depreciation due to it actually having some miles on it (that said, I'd much rather buy a car that HAS been driven, instead of being a garage queen that gets taken out once a month in the summer)

If I'm buying an expensive car, I'm gonna want full service records, from either a dealer or a shop that's known for knowing their poo poo about said expensive car. Also gently caress doing all of that just for an oil change, I'd happily fork out the money to make that Someone Else's Problem<tm>.

jink
May 8, 2002

Drop it like it's Hot.
Taco Defender
I need to echo everyone else in here and LOL at that oil change procedure. I complain and throw a fit when I have to remove the belly pan on my car to do certain maintenance but it is nowhere near fifty seven loving fasteners just to 'get started'! hahahaha

Loving this thread and the fact you are sharing the experience with us. I can't wait to hear about track day with it!

got off on a technicality
Feb 7, 2007

oh dear
Sorry for the lack of content lately! I've been away from the car for 3 weeks over Thanksgiving, and the Huracan has been doing what supercars do best: sit forlornly in the garage

I was all panicking about the possibility that my battery might not survive the 3 weeks, so I took the car out and drove it for 45 mins the morning of my departure just to charge it up. I picked a bunch of slow, damp, twisty streets with leaves all over, and had a bit of fun gently stepping the tail out at 20 mph and 2,000 rpm, which is easy to do even in "Strada," the most conservative drive mode. It is really good at letting you pick the yaw angle you want. Then I made sure to retrieve this weird tool:



... which allows you to put the car in neutral even with a dead battery. This video goes into more detail; I love the deadpan way he says the trim piece can sometimes be very difficult to remove:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PWnLYliB9E

... and then I parked the car and tried not to think about it. Narrator: every day without fail, he would visualize returning to a dead car

In the end all that worrying was completely unnecessary. I ran to the car as soon as I got home, unlocked it, and the engine cranked for about half a second longer than normal before coming gloriously to life. I have never ever been so thankful for the German engineers who put this car's electronics together



Today I brought the car to a shop to have paint protection film put on every surface. Even the door jambs, and most especially the roof gutters rockers, which I expect to get utterly blasted by track gravel/debris. The front clip of the car has already been done, but it was with a pre-cut kit and I'm not happy with the results. Not only hasn't it been fully tucked in to the edges, they've left the creases on the side mirrors completely exposed - and you definitely don't want that on this design


not my image; apologies to KI Studios

So in three days time I will no longer have to worry about what happens to the paintwork on this car :getin:

Also I haven't forgotten about the videos promised and have just ordered a GoPro (my iPhone 6S is wholly inadequate to capturing the full tunnel experience). More to come :)

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

You should get a tender so you don't need to worry about the battery going flat on you.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
Yeah is there some technical reason you can't hook the car to a tender?

got off on a technicality
Feb 7, 2007

oh dear

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Yeah is there some technical reason you can't hook the car to a tender?

opengl128 posted:

You should get a tender so you don't need to worry about the battery going flat on you.
The car came with a fancy-looking tender, and there's even a pigtail in the frunk that's specifically made for it so you get a direct path to the battery without having to go through a 12V outlet in the cabin. But my condo building does not have accessible power outlets :smithfrog:

Does anyone know of a battery tender that is itself battery powered? If I could somehow extend the life of the battery from 3-4 weeks with the car off to 2-3 months, that would solve all my problems

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



I assume removing the battery and putting it on a tender in your house isn’t a realistic option here.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
I presume your condo building probably also frowns on you setting up a little solar panel rig

honda whisperer
Mar 29, 2009

Are there massive negatives or difficulties in disconnecting the negative terminal? It's not perfect but it would buy you more time.

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

got off on a technicality posted:

,
Does anyone know of a battery tender that is itself battery powered? If I could somehow extend the life of the battery from 3-4 weeks with the car off to 2-3 months, that would solve all my problems

A typical battery tender would operate on float for many days on a mid-range rechargeable power station.

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
If the car is stored outside,I bet you could just slap this battery tender solar panel on top of your engine cover or roof and no one would notice: https://www.batterytender.com/15-Watt-Solar-Tender-Charger-With-Built-in-Controller

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


honda whisperer posted:

Are there massive negatives or difficulties in disconnecting the negative terminal? It's not perfect but it would buy you more time.

Look up "RV battery disconnect switch", there's several styles and it's an easy install. Otherwise are you really driving it that rarely that this is an issue? If you're taking it out once every other week or something it should be fine unless there's some parasitic draw somewhere. Hell I left my TDI at an airport for five weeks in the middle of winter and it started up fine when I got back to it.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

NitroSpazzz posted:

Look up "RV battery disconnect switch", there's several styles and it's an easy install. Otherwise are you really driving it that rarely that this is an issue? If you're taking it out once every other week or something it should be fine unless there's some parasitic draw somewhere. Hell I left my TDI at an airport for five weeks in the middle of winter and it started up fine when I got back to it.

If they go so far as to provide a tender with the car I don't think cutting electrical power to it after every trip will be a good idea.

got off on a technicality
Feb 7, 2007

oh dear

angryrobots posted:

A typical battery tender would operate on float for many days on a mid-range rechargeable power station.

Ooh that's an idea. I spent a bunch of time looking these up and some of them turn off if the power draw is too low (like <10W) - which is likely to be an issue with a tender. Does anyone know of a brand/model which doesn't do that?

Also the car lives in an underground garage so no go on solar panels

2 more days to PPF and GoPro :dance:

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

No I don't know for sure of any that won't auto shut off, but you could combine a 24 hour timer with a small load (like a small lamp) that cuts on for a few minutes every x hours to defeat it.

Kind of crap, but I suppose options are limited.

got off on a technicality
Feb 7, 2007

oh dear
Paint protection film has now been installed on every surface :woop:

It took the installer a full 3.5 days to get it all done, but the quality of work has been spectacular. Everything has been tucked, they've kept seams and reliefs to a minimum, and what's there is nigh on invisible



Here we have the Lamborghini in its second-most common habitat, after the garage - on the lift in the shop. You can just make out the film against the rocker panel, perhaps the single most difficult part of this install. I didn't help by asking them to include the doorjambs in the job



The tonneau cover is a massive & complex thing with all sorts of curves and a particularly annoying pair of air vents (if you're an installer) that you can make out in the first photo. Probably the 2nd hardest part of this install. They did it with no seams on the main bit, just where the material changes to black plastic, and at the vent openings :aaa:



Here's the rear quarter panel...



... and another shot



They also re-did the mirror to remove the lovely pre-cut film. There is now full coverage of the sharp leading edge, with the seams hidden against on the side towards the body



Here's the rear rocker where it joins the vent. You can barely tell there's any film there

This whole thing has cost a fortune, but at least I can now drive it hard without worrying about the paint :getin:

Next up: fingers crossed for some sun tomorrow...

got off on a technicality
Feb 7, 2007

oh dear

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

i also crave a video winding it out in a tunnel.
Welcome to babby's first YouTube video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpcdXoj9nsI

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug
Hahahaha, that’s beyond awesome!

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Great sounds. I'm more impressed at the attention to detail -- face mask matching body color. :discourse:

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

Hell yes.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

hell yeah brother that sounds great

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?


lmao what a loving hoot! my eat-the-rich knob has been turned down a few degrees

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LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

got off on a technicality posted:


I just love convertibles. My first 'real' car was a Pontiac Solstice GXP, then the Cayman, then a BMW 128i convertible. Then married life started, along with a drought of interesting cars (Mercedes C-coupe x2, Mercedes GLA, blech). So I promised myself that I'd end the drought with a convertible


Just wanted to say I feel ya man. I hacksawed my first car into a convertible and had a lot of good times. Then adulted for 10 years, and around 2004 finally got situated enough for a second car. I've had a convertible ever since. Only has half the V10 though. :v:

RIP Paul Walker
Feb 26, 2004


Oh my loving god I used to live right by there! Don’t want to admit to how fast I’ve gone through that tunnel coming home from whatever poo poo I was getting up to.

Cool video, sounds amazing!

epic bird guy
Dec 9, 2014


:bisonyes:

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


It's pretty nuts how it doesn't really sound like you're flogging the poo poo out of it despite the tach getting way up there. Good noises.

got off on a technicality
Feb 7, 2007

oh dear

Olympic Mathlete posted:

It's pretty nuts how it doesn't really sound like you're flogging the poo poo out of it despite the tach getting way up there. Good noises.

Yeah it definitely sounds like a muscle car, more growl than scream. The local Lambo specialist tells me lots of people straight pipe their cars to add more of a hard-edged metallic zing to the sound and save 70 lbs (!!)

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

got off on a technicality posted:

Yeah it definitely sounds like a muscle car, more growl than scream. The local Lambo specialist tells me lots of people straight pipe their cars to add more of a hard-edged metallic zing to the sound and save 70 lbs (!!)

Holy poo poo! How many cats does the stock car have or is it just a maze of exhaust pipes under it?

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Eat This Glob posted:

Holy poo poo! How many cats does the stock car have or is it just a maze of exhaust pipes under it?

AM exhausts tend to also use lighter materials ($$$) as well. The cat delete saves quite a bit of that weight (depending on how many), and the rest made up with exotic materials. I rather doubt that AM exhausts change the routing.

got off on a technicality
Feb 7, 2007

oh dear

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

AM exhausts tend to also use lighter materials ($$$) as well. The cat delete saves quite a bit of that weight (depending on how many), and the rest made up with exotic materials. I rather doubt that AM exhausts change the routing.

Here's an example with the stock exhaust in the back and the AM in front. As you can see there isn't a whole lot of routing but just imagine straight pipes going directly from each exhaust header to the two tips at each corner

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

I'm sure they've flow tested and tuned it and all that, but seeing the extra little fork just welded on at the very end to give it dual tips genuinely bugs me.

But now that I think about it, most dual tips are nothing more than that. Weird how I never really gave it much thought until seeing that.

got off on a technicality
Feb 7, 2007

oh dear
My takeaway from 3 months into Lamborghini ownership is I don't drive it as much as I want to

:v: I should go pickup food in the Lambo
:nono: But what if you take a corner too quickly and the saag paneer spills all over the frunk and also you hate food smells in the car. Also it's raining so you'll get the car wet and kill yourself
:saddowns: Ok I'll take the Audi

:v: Let's drive to the park
:nono: It rained yesterday and we'll get mud all over the floormats
:saddowns: Ok we'll take the Audi

:v: We need to go get groceries
:nono: There's no room for groceries, are you insane?
:saddowns: Ok we'll take the Audi

Until one day finally...

:byodood: WE'RE DRIVING THE LAMBO TO THE COSTCO IN THE RAIN AND I'LL NOT HEAR A drat THING SAID ABOUT IT

This repeats every 2-3 weeks. It turns out there's a lot that can be jammed into the frunk and the passenger footwell and my spouse's lap

I also now seek out and treasure dry sunny days like never before, so maybe that's a win

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

You did pick it up on the front end of the winter I suppose. Summer and fall are going to be excellent.

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

got off on a technicality posted:

My takeaway from 3 months into Lamborghini ownership is I don't drive it as much as I want to

Yeah, this is the bad part about having a fun car: you end up finding reasons not to drive it because you just washed it/it rained/it snowed/the bucket seats are annoying/etc.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



got off on a technicality posted:



:v: Let's drive to the park
:nono: It rained yesterday and we'll get mud all over the floormats
:saddowns: Ok we'll take the Audi


Does husky or weathertech make a set of laser fit all weather floor mats for the lambo?

Might be a good idea to check or inquire even if they don't list one.

If they don't, I wonder if they'd do up a set as a PR stunt show their stuff can even be used in exotics.

got off on a technicality
Feb 7, 2007

oh dear
So the TT has taken on the lion's share of the driving, as it should. There are some interesting comparisons between the two:
  • The transmissions I believe are identical although the gear ratios might be slightly different. The shift logic is very similar. Both cars fast idle when you put the TT shifter in "S" and the Huracan in "Corsa." Both cars will happily let you bounce off the redline
  • The exhaust notes are similar; perhaps too similar :eng99: Try comparing my tunnel video to TT RS videos on YouTube. I've started thinking about installing the factory sport exhaust on the Huracan, which is much angrier sounding
  • The steering wheels have the exact same diameter and shape. But the Huracan wheel feels cheaper because it has a plastic piece at 6 o'clock that isn't covered by leather and creaks annoyingly. The TT wheel is Alcantara all around and feels correspondingly nicer
  • Both cars have oil temperature gauges that wander around and appear to show 'real' and accurate data, which is excellent. The Huracan is much slower to get up to temp (~90C) but hey :shrug:
  • loving hell why can't Lamborghini give me tire pressure and temperature when the (much cheaper) TT will do just that
  • The standard Bang & Olufsen sound in the TT completely destroys the Huracan
  • As you might guess, many of the electronic bits are identical. The reversing camera is exactly the same. The chirp when you lock the car is exactly the same.
At the end of the day the TT RS likes to be hustled. It's a darty little green imp of a car that you fling around. The Huracan seems to demand more focus and deliberation. Some of that might be the difference in length/wheelbase, some of it might be the NA engine, some of it might be the 'loving up will be expensive' in the back of your mind when you're driving it. They're different enough experiences that I'm not rushing to trade in the one or the other, but similar enough that I wish my spouse had picked a different dream car...

Bajaha posted:

Does husky or weathertech make a set of laser fit all weather floor mats for the lambo?

Might be a good idea to check or inquire even if they don't list one.

If they don't, I wonder if they'd do up a set as a PR stunt show their stuff can even be used in exotics.
It's a fun idea! Neither of them support Lamborghini on their websites but I'll give them a call

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


got off on a technicality posted:

They're different enough experiences that I'm not rushing to trade in the one or the other, but similar enough that I wish my spouse had picked a different dream car...

This is when you accidentally leave the APR catalog laying around for your spouse to find.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otiMH9uWSMs

Give the TTRS that full Group B treatment.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

got off on a technicality posted:



The problem does get worse with the wipers. You slide right to increase the speed of the wipe, and vice versa, and push to cancel. But the issue is you get no feedback as to the state the wipers are in, other than actually observing the wipers. There are no blinking signal lights, no sounds, etc. You can't feel for the position of the stalk either. So you have to constantly devote space in your brain to remember the state of the wipers, and it's a distraction that you don't need when driving a near-600hp beast in the wet

Other than that it's pretty peachy :)
There is a solution: Never drive in the rain. Easy peasy fettuccini.

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got off on a technicality
Feb 7, 2007

oh dear
I've just come back from spending several months overseas - health issues in the family, long story - and so the Huracan has been doing what exotics do: sit forlornly while dreaming about being driven. A friend of mine very kindly took her into his garage, and we had her hooked her up to a battery maintainer the entire time. The only excitement came when his kid left the garage door open and someone caught a glimpse; it was the talk of the neighborhood for days after, and he quickly bought a car cover for it

To make up for the long absence, I brought her to Oregon Raceway Park (ORP) as soon as I could. It's a highly technical track out in the boonies that we ran counter-clockwise (the weird way), with big elevation changes - including a punishing downhill braking zone, lots of blind crests and corners, and a few treacherous corners where the camber drops off dramatically towards the outside. Thankfully there is generous runoff (almost) everywhere to save you from your mistakes. It's a completely different experience from Portland International Raceway (PIR), which is flat as a board and significantly easier to learn.

The Huracan revealed itself to be incredibly competent but scary, unlike the TT (see this post about my PIR experience). The TT is quick, yes, but the instant response from the Huracan's NA V10 and its extra 176 horses, along with the absence of AWD, requires very careful torque management at all times. Even on seemingly straight bits, little bumps or divots in the track can cause the traction control light to flash alarmingly when you upshift at WOT. But if you are careful and patient with that rear end, the Huracan digs in like a 911, rewarding you with ferocious corner exits that are hard to beat (the weight distribution of the LP580-2 is a 911-esque 40/60, whereas the AWD version is 43/57)

The Huracan is so eager and willing to rotate on corner entry that I would keep early apexing corners without meaning to. I had to recalibrate my instincts, waiting an extra 1-2 seconds - an eternity - to turn in, but it just shows how the Huracan is on a different level from my 987.1 Cayman. And unlike the TT there is no vagueness - the Huracan neatly tucks its nose in and takes a set with quiet decisiveness. The steering is well matched to the handling: it does not chatter at you like the hydraulic steering in Porsches, but it is transparent and wonderfully quick. That quickness can mean the difference between being able to recover from a bad situation and spinning out into the dirt, which is exactly what you need for a car with high mechanical grip but a certain on-limit twitchiness.

It was easy to forget that she's a convertible - Lamborghini did an amazing job with the hybrid carbon fiber and aluminum structure, and there was not a hint of unwelcome flex or cowl shake. The street brakes took quite a beating, but would last till almost the end of the session. Despite my complete unfamiliarity with the layout and hesitation - I was far from flat out, especially in the scariest downhill passing zone - and a run group filled with high HP machinery (GT3 RS, McLaren GT4, modded C7 Z06, Camaro Z28 (I think), etc), she was able to keep up.

In the end, the Huracan showed no obvious weaknesses; in that way she is revealing of my own character, just by being better than me (just look at the video at the end of this post - what a terrible lap lol). I don't want to risk taking a 100mph excursion off track, nor am I going after the bragging rights of a lap time in the 1:50 range, which I just know is possible with slicks and practice. I'm content to lift in the passing zones and point people by. I want to go back to my spouse when the day is over and never, ever get even close to the possibility of loving up the car (or worse). Is that fair to the car, that I am never going to get her to fulfill her peak potential?

On the other hand, we're so used to the idea of cars like this being garage queens or YouTube bait that we forget they are designed to be at home on the track. So many people came up to me to tell me what a beautiful car she was, and how happy they were to see her there. Even the guy at the gate told me he had never ever before seen a Lamborghini being driven on this track at speed. That's got to be worth something as well. I wonder...

Video of my fastest lap (~2.03) and some fun with the GT3, plus a picture of a sandwich on my picnic table rear fender

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ5K_r1sdkE

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