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Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

crispix posted:

Is it good? City builders have always been my favourite video-game. When I'm stuck in traffic I don't get upset and grunt and grumble and swear and bang on the steering wheel and do frustration beeps like many people, I just sit and have a think about how I could optimally redesign the roads

it offentimes would involve demolishing much of a housing estate or a Primark or that but you don't have to worry about those things and their consequences when you're just having a think

its really good, with a really vibrant mod community too

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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

frankenbeans posted:

Hi thread.

My hospital is already under a heavier Covid load than the first peak, and then I see this bunch of bellends trying to throw a beach party:

Warning over Brighton New Year's Eve 'freedom' party

Fucks sake. We are going to spend so long dealing with this poo poo. We'll probably have a tier 5 within a couple of weeks, which will be 'tier 4, but really, you guys', and nothing will change. Let's just hope we don't gently caress up the vaccinations.

This is entirely the Govt's fault for loving up restrictions/lockdown.
Dividing the country up into small units of naughtiness and having incredibly confusing messages about what each level of naughty is allowed to do makes it hard for people to understand. Also, calling each level a "tier" makes it sound like a level of naughty rather than a "loving stay at home, you arseholes".

Take those cunts who went on a skiing jolly to Switzerland and then hosed off when they were told they'd have to isolate for 10 days: for people who've been told to cancel their Christmas plans and stay at home - potentially not seeing relatives they haven't seen for 12 months - they look at those cunts and think "Hang on, why am I stuck at home while these fucks get to go abroad and have fun?", and then that makes it less likely they'll follow future guidance they get from the Govt about staying at home.

If Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson had come out 3 weeks ago and said "We're having a national lockdown - schools are closing early for Christmas, stay at home with the people you live with and your support bubble if you have one; we're really sorry, but we need to do this", there would have been outrage, but there wouldn't be people travelling from London to visit the loving Brecon Beacons because there's a bit of snow.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

banished was my favourite city builder game. when you're established as a settlement you get travellers and refugees turning up who sometimes bring a disease with them for that added real world feel

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

crispix posted:

I suppose pure evil is easily identifiable as far as moral frameworks go

I kind of feel like May was what we got when someone wished on a monkey's paw for a politican who keeps their promises. A mindless automaton who wants to deport everyone and have a completely non-specific undefined brexit unable to negotiate or compromise because she promised to deport everyone and have a brexit. Ah ha, says the spirit of the monkey, you never specified what sort of promises the politican would make!

gently caress off monkey

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

kecske posted:

banished was my favourite city builder game. when you're established as a settlement you get travellers and refugees turning up who sometimes bring a disease with them for that added real world feel

The best thing about banished was not mining quite enough ore and then watching your entire village self-destruct because tools ran out and nobody could harvest the crops

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
I think May would have handled covid a lot better, mind. She was in her element when micromanaging and she was the single person in the commons I saw wearing a mask the other day

Ravel
Dec 23, 2009

There's no story
Of all the PMs she's been around, why does the Queen uniquely hate Blair?

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

kecske posted:

banished was my favourite city builder game. when you're established as a settlement you get travellers and refugees turning up who sometimes bring a disease with them for that added real world feel

is there a hyperrealism mod where the diseases come from wealthy noblemen coming over on skiing holidays

Goldskull
Feb 20, 2011

Endjinneer posted:

They hosed one of the small chains I know of quite badly. It was a deal involving exclusivity for preferential prices which they immediately reneged on by selling their beer to other places in town.
They've got a conscience until they smell profit basically.

The 2 things I know of Brewdog is that their head honcho goes through PA's like nobody's business because he's a massive 'I'm the BOSS' twat in real life, and the end result of them approaching a place I freelanced at about 5 years ago. They wanted to do an unaged Brewdog whisky, so they approached my place (a multi-award winning drinks branding agency), paid the upfront fee for concept designs, liked what they saw. Then their legal guys came back and went 'once you commit to this, everything else in whisky (and any other spirits we may or may not make in future) is conflict of interest, so sign this exclusivity form, then once you're done with any current spirit branding you essentially only work for us.'

Given the multi-million $$$£££ accounts they had with much, much larger drinks concerns who didn't give a gently caress about 'conflict of interest', they were politely told to go do one.

And all their beer tastes like rusty water. Still, offering the pubs as vaccine centres is, I agree, better than anything that loving mutant who runs Spoons has or will ever do.

frankenbeans
Feb 16, 2003

Good Times

kingturnip posted:

Also, calling each level a "tier" makes it sound like a level of naughty rather than a "loving stay at home, you arseholes".

Agreed, adding a new tier was loving idiotic. The three tier system didn't work, so why would anyone expect a 4-tier system to be any better. If anything, it made it more of a joke. We broke the first lockdown when it was working, and it's been varying levels of poo poo ever since.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

frankenbeans posted:

We'll probably have a tier 5 within a couple of weeks,
already do. in some tier 4 areas schools will open, in others schools will not.

this split does defeat the point of the tier system - that the number clearly defines what's on/off in each - by creating a muddle, but must have been considered an easier sell than actually calling the harsher #4 what it really is: a distinct #5

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

Guavanaut posted:

Then you bring out Wee Free Corbyn to condemn the legitimacy of Irish Republicanism and the whole thing descends into chaos because you're willing to meet a clearly disingenuous press halfway on everything.

The papers fling a lot of poo poo, but only some of it sticks. No one believes everything they read; it’s just that everyone believes something.

In reality the press attacked Corbyn over his historical position on the IRA, and got absolutely nowhere because he is in fact British. Just as similar attacks on Bernie Sanders over anti-Semitimism floundered over the fact of his ethnicity.

Had Corbyn actually been Paddy McCorbyn, then those attacks would have landed, and 2017 wouldn’t have been a record swing.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Ravel posted:

Of all the PMs she's been around, why does the Queen uniquely hate Blair?

*Gestures wildly at everything*

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


Once again Teresa May is the porn star, Theresa May is the politician.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

biglads posted:

Changing the subject slightly, there were some posts about Cities Skylines a few pages back.

For shame comrades, for shame. The peoples city builder is Workers & Resources : Soviet Republic.

Good game but you can't angle snap buildings and if my mining town in the urals can't have rows of perfectly squared grey tower blocks it's not worthy of its lenin statue

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

biglads posted:

Changing the subject slightly, there were some posts about Cities Skylines a few pages back.

For shame comrades, for shame. The peoples city builder is Workers & Resources : Soviet Republic.

Workers and resources doesn't have the amazing traffic simulation of skylines unfortunately, it seems to actually be a game though which is good.

crispix posted:

Is it good? City builders have always been my favourite video-game. When I'm stuck in traffic I don't get upset and grunt and grumble and swear and bang on the steering wheel and do frustration beeps like many people, I just sit and have a think about how I could optimally redesign the roads

it offentimes would involve demolishing much of a housing estate or a Primark or that but you don't have to worry about those things and their consequences when you're just having a think

It's very good for building your favourite road network, it's not a particularly in depth game beyond that though, you can make really pretty model cities with it though, check out the Games thread for it if you like.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Once again Teresa May is the porn star, Theresa May is the politician.
In which case "I had a degree of admiration for Teresa May. I knew what her moral framework was." is a valid position to have and sex work is real work.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

Some of those do seem a little much, but assuming the courses are effective in the first place it's probably good to have volunteers who can be relied upon not to yell slurs at people coming to be vaccinated or nonce their children, who know where the fire escapes are and can recognise anaphylaxis.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

big scary monsters posted:

Some of those do seem a little much, but assuming the courses are effective in the first place it's probably good to have volunteers who can be relied upon not to yell slurs at people coming to be vaccinated or nonce their children, who know where the fire escapes are and can recognise anaphylaxis.

Yeah I was gonna say, prevent is a joke but doing basic office staff that isn't related to 'how jab needle' isn't a terrible idea for people who haven't worked for a while.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Don't the vaccines need special extra-cold storage? "Brewdog have fridges" isn't exactly to spec.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The pfizer ones do, the oxford ones I believe do not, or not as cold.

Plus they probably don't inject them into you at -80C.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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I'd assume the extra-cold one is still best kept as cold as possible while en route to going in someone.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.



"At the end of the session, Limmud Trustee Carolyn Bogush, who had interviewed Sir Keir during the session, encouraged viewers to “unmute” their microphones to applaud Sir Keir at the end of the session."

Please clap.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

The pfizer ones do, the oxford ones I believe do not, or not as cold.

Plus they probably don't inject them into you at -80C.
I think the protocol is they're shipped in styrofoam containers of dry ice at -70C and then they move them to fridges to thaw, where they have a stable half life of a few hours* before they start falling apart.

I presume with the other one it's the same deal only they use whatever they use for the "about -20C" measure, which used to be water, ice, and ammonium chloride, but is now probably 'a freezer'.

*afaik it's now known to be far longer but they didn't want to rely on that.

TreeTrunks
Aug 16, 2018

big scary monsters posted:

Some of those do seem a little much, but assuming the courses are effective in the first place it's probably good to have volunteers who can be relied upon not to yell slurs at people coming to be vaccinated or nonce their children, who know where the fire escapes are and can recognise anaphylaxis.

I've done those online courses as I've volunteered to help with vaccinating and they're really not time consuming or difficult.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Jel Shaker posted:

i was fine until after the jab when i started thinking that maybe i’ll get anaphylaxis out of nowhere


Then you're probably taking the vaccine in the wrong end.

Sad Panda
Sep 22, 2004

I'm a Sad Panda.

TreeTrunks posted:

I've done those online courses as I've volunteered to help with vaccinating and they're really not time consuming or difficult.

Are they the Hays Online ones? We get to do those annually as teachers and the most time consuming and is clicking next next next through the 150+ slides about safeguarding to be asked really simple questions like 'Which of these should you report to your designated safeguarding lead?'. After you submit the answer, if you don't pass, you can click back and adjust the answers it told you were wrong. You also have unlimited attempts to pass.

lih
May 15, 2013

Just a friendly reminder of what it looks like.

We'll do punctuation later.
re: 'why does the queen apparently hate blair?' the reporting out there on this focuses on two main things: his handling of diana's death (idk exactly what about that though) and him detailing some private conversations with the queen in his memoirs which is apparently considered a major breach of royal confidence

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Well, it will be new year here in an hour or so so: happy new year, UK goons!

TreeTrunks
Aug 16, 2018

Sad Panda posted:

Are they the Hays Online ones? We get to do those annually as teachers and the most time consuming and is clicking next next next through the 150+ slides about safeguarding to be asked really simple questions like 'Which of these should you report to your designated safeguarding lead?'. After you submit the answer, if you don't pass, you can click back and adjust the answers it told you were wrong. You also have unlimited attempts to pass.

Sounds very similar!

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



https://twitter.com/IsabelOakeshott/status/1344418384918798339

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
lord frogface of manston airfield

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Tomoyasu Nigel - Battle Without Honours or Humility

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib
In our culture we have an aversion to "form filling" because when we're growing up repetitive meaningless tasks are used as a form of punishment. Writing stuff out 1000 times or whatever. If you don't take the time to explain to your volunteers why the tasks are not meaningless, they become indistinguishable from punishment. Everything on that checklist has a valid reason to be there, but unless you explain why it's important all your volunteers get instantly demotivated.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

Prevent never has a valid reason to be there

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Endjinneer posted:

In our culture we have an aversion to "form filling" because when we're growing up repetitive meaningless tasks are used as a form of punishment. Writing stuff out 1000 times or whatever. If you don't take the time to explain to your volunteers why the tasks are not meaningless, they become indistinguishable from punishment. Everything on that checklist has a valid reason to be there, but unless you explain why it's important all your volunteers get instantly demotivated.

It's not hard to deliver an IM injection and there is seriously very little you can do to gently caress it up. You could jam a syringeful of air inside and the worst you'd get is a pissed off patient with a painful arm. Patients get trained to self administer injections all the time. Anyone with a modicum of medical training (doctors, nurses, pharmacists, paramedics etc) will be competent to do this after 5 minutes barring actual problems with physical dexterity if we're talking about old retired staff.

Doing some equality training and having a piece of paper isn't going to stop Dr Brexit McGammon (Esq) from going off about immigrants when they vaccinate the public. You have them in a big open area supervised by someone who's actually trained and you tell them to shut up apart from saying "sharp scratch" and "all done".

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

lih posted:

re: 'why does the queen apparently hate blair?' the reporting out there on this focuses on two main things: his handling of diana's death (idk exactly what about that though) and him detailing some private conversations with the queen in his memoirs which is apparently considered a major breach of royal confidence

Blair made the Royals look (even more) like petty assholes when he broke ranks with their official position of "Diana divorced Charles, we're glad she's dead" and eventually they had to make a humiliating climbdown.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Claudia Webbe seems to be having a pretty Correct run what with this and 'close the schools in January you idiots'.
https://twitter.com/ClaudiaWebbe/status/1344303965815660545

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Ravel posted:

Of all the PMs she's been around, why does the Queen uniquely hate Blair?

Probably because he seems to have given her what for over how to behave after Diana's death.
(Well at least according to the film "The Queen" - the one with Helen Mirren playing Brenda. Michael Sheen played Blair.)

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sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde
Have u considered that leaving the EU will solve problems not caused by being in the EU??

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1344650282198831105?s=20

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