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Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


This is a disease that was unknown at the start of the year and at the end we've got a working vaccine. That's a miracle of modern biochemistry.

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Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Danger - Octopus! posted:

I don't think they even need to deliberately try that, it'll happen anyway. The vaccine rollout is going to be in phases depending on vulnerability, which is sensible - but I assume anyone with money will presumably be able to go private to get it early and some companies will likely encourage staff who aren't on the vulnerable lists to do this (maybe out of their own pocket, maybe not depending if the company isn't being lovely). Private healthcare firms already have Tory links so it'll naturally funnel money towards Tories without them even needing to add anyone extra in. If you can't get the vaccine privately for a cost as soon as the most vulnerable are receiving it, I'd be amazed.

I doubt that will happen (legally, at least). Simply because there's such a high demand for the vaccine all the sales are spoken for by national governments - there's no extra production to sell privately. I have no doubt they'll be cases of vaccine being stolen/"lost" from government hands because we're dealing with such large numbers some is gonna go missing. But there's just not the supply to support semi legal queue jumping by the rich.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Jose posted:

Explains why Hancock said he'd get it live on TV lol

Yea I'd not be surprised if the government prioritizes vaccinating their own MPs to "boost public confidence in vaccinations" but that'll be public and not freely bought, but with connections.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Getting kids to read Tolkien? Sounds like you're doing a good job teaching them what theu reslly need to know.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Eararaldor posted:

We have low literacy rates in this area. The school is desperate to get children reading books, any books. My club seemed to be helping in that regard :effort:
Besides the Hobbit was my favorite book as a child and it's nice to see the kids getting excited by it.

I'm a Computing teacher anyway, and my secondary goal is showing the mechanics of table top games and how video games apply the same rules (although hidden).

That was supposed to be positive! Getting kids to read the classics is always good, especially if there's low literacy rates - that old mantra about how reading more is the biggest indicator of success reguardless of background.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Who is that poll of? If it's died in the wool Tory retirees saying they don't trust labpur because... the economy it's useless info, those aren't people you are getting to vote for you regardless.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Well we've moved on from "strikes are wrong at a time when negotiations are ongoing" at least?

Only proper workers though - student strikes don't get a mention, they aren't important anymore.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


It's 50000 deaths of mostly people over 70, which is only a rough 10% increase on the amount of people over 70 who die every year anyways. If it was 50000 people in the prime of their life who might be known to media personalities, the reporting would be more distraught. But as long as the deaths aren't visible people are fine letting them happen - like all the deaths from car accidents that happen yearly.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


mediaphage posted:


let's not forget that the lady ghost is a complete perv and consistently and inappropriately spies on people in the bath or using the bathroom to get her rocks off

You're a ghost stuck as a horny teenager for eternity - seems pretty plausible to me.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


It's the UK, water supply isn't going to be an issue anytime soon. I think there's some work on connecting up regional water systems so they can redistribute at need to London/SE but that's about it.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


We've got a £50 voucher for a gift hamper website to make up for lack of a work Christmas meal this year, which was nice since they sold fancy booze.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Vigil for Virgil posted:

According to this thread that news came in January

no, December

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Piratebay is poo poo now, it's full of malware. RARBG.to is the place to go for all your free torrented content.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


keep punching joe posted:

Why does everything come in through Kent anyway, arent there other ports around our 1000s of miles of coastline?

Driving through the channel tunnel is cheaper and faster than getting on a boat. And most our larger ports just handle our shipping from outside the EU.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


It's mostly richer middle class professionals taking the jump, so I'd guess the Tories will make it easy for them. Not that it's a bad thing reguardless.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


If the government say to not visit for christmas people just won't listen. Having a limited window where you tell people it's OK is better then them not listening then going to meet for new years etc aswell. But coming out of lockdown on the 2nd was stupid, we should still be in it but gotta get that christmas shopping done.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


sebzilla posted:

This is probably not a good thing for Labour's chances of winning a majority any time soon, right?

https://twitter.com/PARLYapp/status/1338582220206903297?s=19

Less so after 2019. It's mostly small welsh seats that have been depopulating and getting older that used to be safe labour but flipped being abolished, and the new south east seats will probably be in urban centres that have grown alot - Oxford, Cambridge, Hastings etc - which should be more viable than the South East label makes them sound.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


The Question IRL posted:

So this was something I wanted to know. Are people in the UK really expected to self administer their own COVID tests?
I had two tests this year, both negative. And while it's not pleasant, it was quick because a nurse who knew what they were doing could administer them.
The idea of trying to DIY seems like pure madness. And probably results in tons of people doing it wrong.



For the home tests yea, I'm currently part of a ONS study on infection rates and get tested weekly - the ONS courier shows up with the pre packaged test, I do it myself and had it back to them sealed, and they take it off. The benefit is that you don't need medically trained staff to adminsiter these, so you can scale much faster by just getting the general pool of unemployed in the job. It's probably less accurate, but it means they get vastly more data. If I was in a hospital I'd expect staff to test me theirselves though.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Ah yes, another argument that the british are uniquely weak/servile/lovely/not capable of true socialism based of vague national sterotypes, lovely. Rather than just that accepting the truth that everything is hosed and you can't do anything about it is painful, and people all over the world don't like to do painful things.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


What you're complaining about is basically information overload and the pace of the media cycle - how things that objectively should matter appear and dissapear from conversation quickly because media doesn't report as much as on more trival issues.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Comrade Fakename posted:

This coronavirus variant stuff is a bullshit excuse made up by the government for why they’ve let another surge happen, right?

Basically- while there's probably a mutated variant spreading, it's unlikely that that mutation actually has a meaningful human scale effect on either infectivity or deadlyness

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


goddamnedtwisto posted:

Anyone else get an email from that volunteer responders thing asking them to volunteer to give COVID vaccines? How the gently caress do they think that's going to work?

It's a intermuscular vaccine, so it's easy to apply unlike something that requires finding a vein. I imagine they'd have one trained nurse or junior doxtor supervising a few volunteers.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Answer Hazy, ask again later.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


The point of a support bubble is that single people can be "added" to another household for the purpose of anti-household mixing laws. So anything you could do with people you live with, you could do with someone in a support bubble.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


The reason we are in this mess is not individual behavior, and that entire individualistic mindset that Bad Things happen because of Bad People is what right-wingers thrive off. The reason we are in this mess is the government has repeatedly failed to systematically manage this pandemic and destroyed, defunded, and dismissed the institutions that are supposed to protect against these things. Rage against the individual is a pointless directin of from the rage against the person responsible for this mess - Boris Johnson.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


*If you want to buy a house you've got to save huge deposits, to keep banks stable*

Help, people are saving money and not spending it!

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


bessantj posted:

Ugh London in tier 4. I'm working there for 10 days over Christmas.

Had a shift last night and while we had some downtime one of the lads was flashing his headlamp at nearby house windows. One of the older lads told him not to do that which I thought was pretty good, but then he turned to me and said "you can get into trouble for doing that now. Women have all sorts of rights these days." Oh yeah, how terrible that you may face consequences for sexually humiliating a woman.

While it's not the greatest motivation... It's still bettet to have than perception that not. Similar to the Parable of the Racist tree.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Flayer posted:

I don't even understand voters in this country. Then again, I suppose there isn't really even a good choice to pick. It's loving bad all the way down the ticket.

Remember how disengaged and uninformed about politics the average voter is?

Remember that, on average, half of voters are MORE ignorant than that?

Us wierdos who actually follow and pay attention to the governments fuckups are in the minority. It's supposed to be the job of journalists to take this information and turn it into news for the public to consume, but the journalistic class is in bed with the Tories anyways so don't give a gently caress about actually taking their friends to task.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


kyojin posted:

If I were a cynic I would say that the uk gov's actions were entirely intentional and that they wanted to create this chaotic situation so that they can blame covid instead of brexit when everything goes to hell on Jan 1st

Wouldn't it be comforting to believe the government had a plan at the moment.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Bobby Deluxe posted:


2) Tonty Blair can gently caress right off eith his amateur virology. People get 2 doses to make sure the virus is dead and stays dead. One dose means some of the virus survives, and the virus that survives is more likely to be mutated. Which means it then escapes the second dose. Which means we end up with multiple, vaccine resistant strains, all so that toothy oval office can save some money.

Him saying we should do one dose means he has done absolutely zero reading on the subject of how we end up with MRSA and antibiotic resistance.


... No? You've derided Blair for amateur virology then treated a vaccine exactly like antibiotics, which deal with bacteria - not viruses, so great job there with your amateur virology. One dose of vaccine might work - there's some evidence one dose of Moderna gives 80% protection. But that's not what the studies were designed around (they didn't think their mRNA vaccines would work this well) so the studies were designed around two-dose and we don't have the proper data to know the exact difference between one dose and two. If we had the data on difference, we could properly judge whether it would be worth getting more vaccines out or higher protection - or vaccinate different groups differently. But we don't, and while we're still dealing with the most vulnerable groups, we want the the best protected for the future - which means two doses.

Nothingtoseehere fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Dec 23, 2020

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Part of the confusion on recycling/sustainability is that there's several things people associate with being "green". Decreased carbon emissions and decreased pollution are the main two - while the current crusade is against single-use plastics... I'd rather a ton of oil gets turned into plastics than it gets burnt and turned into atmospheric CO2. And the lightness on plastics - one of the reasons they are used so much to begin with - means you need more mass of cardboard or whatever you replace them with, and that might have a higher energy cost to do so. But plastics are undeniably harder to recycle and create more pollution/waste afterwards - they also look uglier when discarded in the enviroment. Which aspect of "green" are you focusing on? Because there's always tradeoffs between different "green" ideals.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Why would you expect a guy who honed his skills analysing youtube videos of military actions from Libya and Syria to suddenly work on western domestic corruption? Like, that just sounds like an excuse to criticise someone you don't like more than any betrayal of promises. The funny thing of bellingcat is one goon in a basement showing up the whole military espionage complex - that the NSA spend so much money and effort reading everything and couldn't see what what is plain sight and public on youtube.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I'm from a generation where we still had mercury in the classroom and used mouth siphon to do various pressure experiments with mercury. We used to deliberately spill it on the bench and have fun rolling it around.
And mercury (in 'amalgam') fillings were a thing until 1997.

Elemental mercury is (mostly) harmless in liquid form - just goes straight through you, can play with it with your hands fine if you wash them afterwards. It's gaseous or dissolved mercury that rots your brain, so you've just gotta keep it away from any source of heat. It's mostly been phased out because it's a bitch to dispose of properly without getting it in the water table more than any risk to people handling it.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Lol my mum bought a new "Who wants to be a millionaire game" for the switch for Christmas and it's a lovely cash grab being sold for £30 in shops to clueless parents. It's got no Voice acting, lifelines only work if you're playing single player, and the UK question set has several American questions and are too easy. Also the localisation is so slapdash it writes cash amounts as 1000 £ instead of £1000

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Bobby Deluxe posted:

Is this the one that was crashing systems a while back? I downloaded a quiz game on switch last year, think it was the demo of WWTBAM and it knocked out our virgin media connection for an hour or so.


I have no clue, only discovered it today where we played it for an hour, weren't really challenged and already saw repeats. A 2005 PC video game version did a better job at replicating the quiz show than this did, it's solely a licensed cash grab for Christmas. Apparently they are trying to seel more questions as DLC!

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


All current EU carers can remain in the UK. The problem is that care homes find it cheaper to just burn through hordes of european workers rather than invest in actually keeping a workforce around, and that tap of new carers is shut (and local brits quite reasonably try to do anything but care work under current conditions)

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Goodbye 2020, a loving terrible year it has been. I moved for a new job right as this all kicked off, so I've spent 9 months alone stuck in an empty flat unable to get to know anyone and only seeimg new colleaguesrarely on video. And becausing of this loving governments incompetence I've got months of this this ahead.

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Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


happyhippy posted:

Can we assume it is more probable now that if you get infected, at least one or more of the chain of people that infected you just didn't give a gently caress and knew they had it but still went outside?

No? Remember, a significant proportion of infected are asymptomatic, some are presymtomatic, and others are economically unable to not leave their house due to employment.

You're just channelling your hatred at the public over the government.

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