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https://twitter.com/labourlewis/status/1333701609281482753?s=19 Clive seems happy with his leader. Shouldn't Keith get more grief for being in Corbyn's shadow cabinet for most of the 4 years he was leader? Like, if Corbyn is that antisemitic then why were you willing to work for him for so long Keith?
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OwlFancier posted:The people who like him are entirely supportive of that sort of duplicity. Wow, that's a serious accusation, can't believe you'd imply the concern about antisemitism is almost entirely politically motivated. That's a paddlin' for breach of the EHRC
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peanut- posted:Imagine not being on buy-all-your-clothes-from-Uniqlo tech in 2020 Northerns are dumb racists who are mad Labour are wasting time on racism instead of things that impact them personally because of one geezer I spoke to with lightning rune tattoos on his bald head on Stockport High Street
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Truly galaxy brained moved by Keith to just abstain on the next covid vote, without using the fact that he controls the balance of power due to the massive tory revolt to try and get any concessions. This would be wrong and divisive.
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The Question IRL posted:Which side of the power struggle is which? I assume Professional grouper Alex Salmond is on the pro-TERF side? I'd define it more that the TERFs are on Salmond's side.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Looking up this dude's accounts, theres three directors of his company, him, his wife and presumably his brother. They shared 200k in dividends last year. They weren't struggling in Europe, they were thriving but just had to try and take a little more. The slogan of the capitalist, innit? "Always got to have more"
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multijoe posted:Do you just not read the news? The NHS has been extensively planning the vaccine rollout for months now, we've ordered enough supplies to vaccinate the entire population and have the infrastructure in place to vaccinate most of the country in the coming year. There'll undoubtedly be some cock ups along the way but all signs point to a steady roll out of vaccinations from January 2021 When was the last time the British government rolled out a massive anything that wasn't a complete disaster?
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https://twitter.com/e_Liam_/status/1333650598768599040?s=20 Keith is a slur now
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I have an absolutely overwhelming fear of freefalling Ach, Tom Petty isn't that bad. Sorry, I just read all these posts about flying & promptly had nothing to say because the last time I was on a plane was in October 1998. Which is kind of annoying because I would ideally like to go abroad again but also the whole rigmarole just seems kind of irritating. At least Europe can be reached by train.
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Pistol_Pete posted:I've been thinking of buying a bunch of GW kit myself tbh, might as well paint some Orks while I have nothing better to do with my time Same, I've so far resisted but there's a shop in town and I quite fancy painting up a squad of...something. as a kid i had a Delaque gang whose cool trench coats/dusters I decided to paint a kind of dayglo green which I'd quite like to recreate but the last time I checked new Delaque gangers don't have cool dusters but look like cybergoth perverts
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Camrath posted:See I still maintain that most of NTNON holds up. Now it could be that I watched/listened to the tapes of it as a young boy in the 80s so I had some level of context, but I rewatched various bits this year and still found them funny- also as a more politically aware adult there were a /lot/ of jokes that went over my head first time round. It's a bit hit & miss but I think that's the nature of sketch comedy, you can never be 100% bangers. Constable Savage is pretty funny despite not exactly being a subtle satire of the polis. And I can't see darts on the telly without thinking of the NTNON bit. And Rowan Atkinson at the Tory Conference is good and depressingly still relevant 40 years on. (Content warning for a n-bomb though) forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Dec 3, 2020 |
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Good poll or best poll? https://twitter.com/BareLeft/status/1334587404276162568?s=20
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Nothingtoseehere posted:Who is that poll of? If it's died in the wool Tory retirees saying they don't trust labpur because... the economy it's useless info, those aren't people you are getting to vote for you regardless. It was just posted because I thought it was funny that Keir has such a strong negatives compared to antisemitism
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Jose posted:Lol at everyone who praised the big centrist hope for the future It's pretty funny in fairness
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Gort posted:I think his policy strategy is "Do what the tories do and hope that over time people get so fed up with the tories that they vote Labour to get the tories out without noticing there's no difference" The Tony Blair strategy. peanut- posted:what do you do if your local MP is Starmer Go to meetings & heckle him at every opportunity. Pistol_Pete posted:Yeah, I voted for RLB, although with some reluctance: I thought she was the best of an underwhelming bunch but lacked the force and drive to really take charge of the party. Her reaction to being sacked for that tweet just confirmed my opinion of her, obediently scurrying off out of the public eye without making any attempt to fight such an obvious injustice against her. It didn't matter she wasn't a great candidate. You just had to see who was backing Starmer & who was backing RLB to know that Starmer was saying what he thought he needed to say to win the election. It was explicitly a surrender by the left of the party, handing the reigns back to the centrists because oooooh, it was a bit messy & hard. It's one of those "with all due respect & then I insult you things" because it was loving obvious the guy who was supported by Yvette Cooper & pissy Sinn Fein dad twat Conor McGinn & wrecker Angela Eagle was not going to be a friend to the left. But I guess people on the Labour left somehow, after 4 loving years of getting it in the neck from everyone from the press to their own MPs, forgot how much the Labour establishment hate them? The options were the Blue Labour "a bit of racism is what we need to win" candidate in Nandy, Jess Flaps for a Jesser Britain, the "soft-left" candidate (& let's be clear, the soft-left is relative & a term basically outdated. Despite their posturing there's barely a Rizla between them & the Blairites) or the candidate backed by McDonnell & Abbott & y'know the loving Socialist Campaign Group MPs & Momentum & the only one with any interesting of not making the entire Corbyn leadership a footnote of history. Mostly I'm not really able to get mad about party politics anymore, I severed except to occasionally yell into the void that Labour is dead as a vehicle for socialism & the best hope is that the organisational forces behind Momentum are used to start a new party that isn't loving poo poo & with a bureaucracy full of wreckers & liberal careerists & wrecker liberal careerists, but god the fact that so many people who'd supported Corbyn through even the chicken coup ended up giving up & voting Starmer still has the power to make me mad. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Dec 4, 2020 |
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Can you imagine the Tories being so loving stupid to actively piss off their major donors? I can't.
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WhatEvil posted:This is it, right, either he lied about the things he wanted, or he's staggeringly incompetent. Those are the only two options and neither is good for him. It's both OP.
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therattle posted:I don't think that's entirely true. It helps cement voters' perceptions of leaders, and probably MPs' perceptions too. It really doesn't. 8 people who aren't paid to watch it watch it. Perceptions are filtered through the media & if they want to say you are poo poo then who is going to challenge it when no one listens to it because it's loving awful?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It massively pains me to defend Chelsea fans, but the Headhunters aren't a Nazi firm - as always it's far more complex than that. While some of their number - like all firms - definitely are fascist, because the factors that attract people to hooliganism are the same as the ones that attract people to fascism, others of them have been involved in fights on the other side. It's entirely possible for someone to be not-racist and be part of them, just like it's possible to be personally not-racist and a British citizen, with exactly the same arguments (at different degrees of course) as to how you square those two things. I know the square root of gently caress all about English football hooliganism (Green Street? Mate all I know about it comes from one episode of well known historical documentary Life On Mars where it kicks off between United & City fans & Gene Hunt & friends end up bashing as many heads as the hooligans) but while it might be possible to be a Headhunter and a leftist, I'm going to cock an eyebrow at any self-declared leftist or anti-racist who is happy cutting about associated with a group who don't just use a Totenkopf emblem (specifically an SS totenkopf going by their own website, rather than the badge worn by Prussian hussars or whatever) but have active connections to Combat 18, the UVF & the National Front. It's a bit iffy to say the least. It's not a football fan thing, gently caress, it's not even a hooliganism thing as much as I think vaguely football related violence is staggeringly pointless (at least they tend to do it away from the ground these days so people who are just there to watch the football can get on with that). It's specifically a Chelsea Headhunters thing. And any other group with clear links to right-wing groups, like certain segments of the Rangers fanbase or Lazio ultras with their Mussolini worship. Nutapii posted:I'm giving it ten posts before someone goes "No I don't think that about football fans, these guys are comrades" by posting a picture of the Green Brigade, Nicosia, or that one from Tel Aviv. Can I mention Livorno? They are probably in whatever article that is but I found out about them because I was hugely into Italian football through the 90s & early 00s. Cristiano & Alessandro Lucarelli were both well known for being passionate Communists even after they left Livorno. Mostly just remember one time they had a big Che banner at a game. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Dec 5, 2020 |
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:well apparently knowing a former hooligan makes me a nazi according to the thread hivemind, so there's that I was very careful not to suggest you were a nazi. Don't think anyone actually did, but you don't actually seem willing to engage with the fact your mate willingly associated with a group with pretty serious far right bona fides. That doesn't make you a nazi or a sympathiser. kustomkarkommando posted:Technically gothy folk music made by people associated with the industrial music scene. Large number of artists involved just coincidentally where really into using lots and lots of nazi imagery, neopaganism, evola's brand of traditionalism and being actual members of the National Front. I still quite like Current 93 and Sol Invictus despite the dodginess of the scene because I am dumb like that. I know Tony Wakeford of Sol Invictus was a National Front member at one point. Bunch of unpleasant fuckers but interesting music is one of those blindspots I have where I'll hand wave away fash by going "well at least I just download their music rather than buy it". goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/karlbykarlsmith/status/1335298807022628866 Hot take but I'd rather stay in this union than join another one that rivals this one for shittiness.
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knox_harrington posted:Are we the baddies? I mean quite clearly yes.
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Failed Imagineer posted:You lads complaining about noise clearly don't have good NC headphones. I got the Bose 700s from work, and I've managed to work from home while my whole house is being renovated (extension demolished, jackhammers breaking concrete outside my window, back wall of house removed). Sure, you can feel vibrations, but who cares? Sadly most people don't have work willing to splurge on actually good noise cancelling headphones
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Hey remember when Boris was on a call with company executives about acquiring a bunch of ventilators, and wanted to call it Operation Last Gasp? Operation Shooting Up
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Chubby Henparty posted:Talisker was my intro to single malts and while there's no doubt better and worse out there, I can pretty much only compare any new one in terms of 'more/less/same burny' I'd go further, some of the Lidl malts are fantastic. Cracking bang for your buck. The key to remember is that a good whisky is one you enjoy and that's about it. Bourbon, Irish, Rye, a peaty Islay or a mild Speyside. Like, I'd tell you that using expensive booze in a whisky and Coke is a waste of money because of diminishing returns but it's your money at the end of the day and you can set it on fire if you want.
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TACD posted:I don’t think I’ve handled any coins since April I handled coins this morning as I made sure I had money for the bus so I can do Christmas shopping
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Soricidus posted:you need better buses mate, can’t think when i last paid a bus fare with anything that wasn’t contactless The buses do contactless. I however do not as I don't have that sort of card. Technically I'm sure I could go and change my bank account but I really appreciate still having the same account I had when I was 14 if only because it doesn't allow me to get overdrawn because I am catastrophically bad at money. Worked out quite well when I last went in because the driver just let me on for free as he couldn't be arsed dealing with cash forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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Vigil for Virgil posted:Even after this pandemic is over can we keep masks madatory on public transport? Especially during Winter Not until they stop making my glasses steam up so I can't see anything.
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4OD or whatever they call it these days has a surprisingly good collection. Like all 15 seasons of ER so that's me sorted for the next year or so.
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CSM posted:Are people in this thread (and the UK in general) just resigned to brexit? Because there seems to be almost no discussion here, with you guys only days/weeks away from going off a cliff. We left the EU at the start of this year, gently caress else are we meant to be doing? It happened, we're hosed, it sucks but spending every waking moment flapping your arms in panic helps not at all.
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Gort posted:Eh, I think this is kinda the narrative the media wants people to accept - that it's over. We "left the EU", but the transition period means that we don't effectively leave until the end of the year, which is when we're actually hosed. I am aware that things won't get bad until the transition period is over but I still don't see what people are meant to do about it.
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OwlFancier posted:It is always weird when people say they have close relationships with people with really weird political beliefs. Like you would think it would be an obstacle. No you see, it's actually very easy for intelligent people to ignore when your friend is a sexist racist bigot who thinks the poor should be ground down into flour for bread. Nothing is smarter in fact. https://twitter.com/JacobusMagnusII/status/1336976995041894401?s=20
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OwlFancier posted:peggy mitchell is actually married to scott mitchell? Thoughts & prayers to her sweet babies Grant & Phil.
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Guavanaut posted:Regret to inform you all that awful person J.K. Rowling is at it again, claiming that most people support her in private but are "afraid of vicious, pro-equality advocates." Always a good sign when you're mad about people being for equality
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kecske posted:kuleshov or sergei eisenstein? who i only know about because in some tom clancy book one of the American heroes figures out that Russia is planning to attack the West because they remastered the audio to one of his films. Eisenstein is the only silent movie director I've actually seen more than clips of. Watched October when the BBC showed it in 2017 for the centenary of the October Revolution. And I feel like everyone must have seen the scene from Battleship Potemkin of the baby stroller going down the Odessa Steps and the massacre by Cossack troops. That image of the woman with the pince-nez just sticks with you. Man, when film was young it was so exciting. (Like, the fact that directors were also theorists establishing techniques and concepts still used today, like Eisenstein with his ideas of montage being used to give a sense of the power of the masses. Films themselves obviously aren't that exciting in isolation on the whole) forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Dec 12, 2020 |
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feedmegin posted:Yeah. Bear in mind lots of historians are American so obviously losing America MUST have been the worst thing ever to happen to Britain. If you point out how many bits of the world we've lost, 'to us, it was Tuesday' etc they can get a bit miffed. Nah, allowing America to become independent when it did, how it did, as a country obsessed with pissweak government and being terrified of taxes and obsessed with guns, was bad. That said, hard to beat Thatcher.
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feedmegin posted:Bad for them maybe. Not obviously bad for us. Bad for the entire world imo. Guavanaut posted:I was going to say that there's a difference between being deliberately and ideologically bad and just loving up repeatedly, but changing the definition of British citizenship because you're scared of British Hongkongese settling in the UK and having it land on the desk of Galtieri that Britain doesn't care about the islands anymore was a massive unforced error and one that she doesn't get enough blame for. If you were a cynic you could argue it worked out marvellously for her because she might have lost in 83 otherwise
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multijoe posted:https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1337830166098227200 I'll tell you what it won't be. A new political party that isn't trash being formed.
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https://twitter.com/JonAshworth/status/1337907735313133575?s=20 Love to see MPs getting pissy on social media.
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josh04 posted:Feels like it might have been a last-minute namechange. Cannot believe they waited until the last minute to decide the We Hate Jews Charity was a bad name. Anyway, Jeremy Corbyn sucks. All these old Labour heads who care more about their stupid worthless party than actually working towards anything can get in the bin, I'm very done with them.
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