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Two shots of Nimrod in the opening credits. I'm sure it's nothing.
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Nikumatic posted:The most Claremont stuff yet; Charles confirmed pet play enthusiast with bird mommy Came to post this
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Pinterest Mom posted:Two shots of Nimrod in the opening credits. I'm sure it's nothing.
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Pinterest Mom posted:Two shots of Nimrod in the opening credits. I'm sure it's nothing. Nimrod inside a Master Mold, at that. Charles being a huge  during his psychic class session was hilarious. "Demerits!" 
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Apr 17, 2024 15:43
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After rewatching the original series recently, I was surprised that the Brood never showed up at all. I guess that's probably too gross for a kid's show, however.
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Apr 17, 2024 15:52
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Mooseontheloose posted:I think the movie does more to help Rouge's characterization, young girl, wants to see the world but is a bit naive and I think the cartoon dovetailed that with falling for the wrong person. She is someone who is literally denied experiencing people and places because of her power and status as a mutant. I knew a couple girls in school who liked Rogue because she was basically Edward Scissorhands, but a lady. "I have so much love to give but I hurt everyone who gets close to me!!!!" is a pretty effective hook. Xealot posted:Gambit has a similar “gruff antihero with a sordid past” texture to Wolverine, except he’s hot and suave and clearly fucks (I mean, not Rogue specifically, but they obviously would if they could.) Rogue likewise has a really outspoken charisma, but is an absolute tank in fights, with a ton of tragic history for dramatic gravitas. I get why they’re both popular. Fun as gently caress accents, too. I've always thought Kurt's been a consistently popular character. He's got a really good hook ("I know I look scary, but actually I'm very nice, so you shouldn't judge people by appearance"), an all-time great design and powers that are cool but not so broken the writer constantly has to write around them. Defiance Industries fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Apr 17, 2024 |
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Apr 17, 2024 16:48
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FlamingLiberal posted:also we learned this episode that you automatically get a new costume when you get your powers back you know I thought this too and am totally down as both so far have been amazing but I think this was a dream sequence costume change. also pretty sure all the X-men are just letting the world think Charles is dead for legal/monetary/sympathy reasons
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Apr 17, 2024 17:13
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I really have to get on with this rewatch of the og show because all of this stuff happening is stuff I've only read about happening in random lore pages in Wolverine UNLEASHED in the 90s and I'm wondering when Stryfe is gonna show up to give everyone Covid or if that's already happened
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Apr 17, 2024 17:18
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Shoehead posted:I really have to get on with this rewatch of the og show because all of this stuff happening is stuff I've only read about happening in random lore pages in Wolverine UNLEASHED in the 90s and I'm wondering when Stryfe is gonna show up to give everyone Covid or if that's already happened
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Apr 17, 2024 17:32
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King Of Coons posted:also pretty sure all the X-men are just letting the world think Charles is dead for legal/monetary/sympathy reasons Or, knowing Charles, he just casually mind hosed them all on his way out the door.
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Apr 17, 2024 17:47
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I do have to say I hope they stick with this Sinister and not the one I'm reading in Krakoa in the comics. I know he has his fans but I'm not one of them.
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Apr 17, 2024 17:49
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Stryfe is also lame.
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Apr 17, 2024 17:59
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Sassy, randy Xavier was rad as gently caress. The psychological sequences with Storm were terrifying. I have to say that the show is outstanding at being scary without being gory.
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This was the first episode that didn't do it for me! The Xavier/Storm combo meal meant that all the dialogue in both stories was high-falutin 'what is the nature of a person' type chin stroking, which I get is very X-Men, but when it's all like that it gets a bit cloying, for me at least. It's like the characters didn't have a chance to just be people. All the stuff in space felt like it went on a little too long. struggle, message and tone are always the same, and the 'metaphor made flesh' feels like a cheap way to shortcut any real character journey. I felt very similar about some of the recent Resurrection of Magneto comics. I also just think it's tough for a show like this when it veers away from the ensemble cast, because that chemistry between the ensemble keeps it feeling zippy and fresh. But I mean one dud out of 6 so far isn't bad!
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Defiance Industries posted:I knew a couple girls in school who liked Rogue because she was basically Edward Scissorhands, but a lady. "I have so much love to give but I hurt everyone who gets close to me!!!!" is a pretty effective hook. I think it also literalises a lot of the messed up contradictory messaging girls in western society get about their own sexuality and bodies. Like, constantly being told that acting on these desires you have is sinful, or that expressing such desire is destructive to those around you, especially men.
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That's also true, but we were middle school students so I don't think we quite picked up on that. Either way there's a lot of ways you can play that and people respond to it.
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Apr 17, 2024 18:50
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FlamingLiberal posted:After rewatching the original series recently, I was surprised that the Brood never showed up at all. I guess that's probably too gross for a kid's show, however. What about the episode where Rogue's boyfriend comes back? I'm pretty sure those aliens were the Brood.
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Apr 17, 2024 18:57
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Was that Vulcan towards the start of the episode fighting Kree? Can't imagine he's too cool with Xavier being there
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I Am Fowl posted:What about the episode where Rogue's boyfriend comes back? I'm pretty sure those aliens were the Brood.
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Ep 6 Ending Spoilers + Comics question Out of curiosity, is Trask in the comics a one-dimensional nutcase? I just thought that ending of Episode 6 seemed to imply some level of remorse on his part, like maybe he didn't intend for his Sentinels to be used in quite such a bloody and murderous fashion.
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Apr 17, 2024 19:20
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He eventually felt bad about everything when he realized he was wrong, then died.
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Apr 17, 2024 19:24
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Real good writing in this episode. The Adversary channeling Shakespeare with Forge made his bed, let him die in it. You get a little poetic with the speech and you can actually cram a lot of meaning into half an hour. Xavier's The rhyme that makes the lie comment made me laugh because the shear amount of alliteration that had gone on before. This show rocks. Both plot lines are about the relationships between a sky goddess and their respective dark twins and consorts. Storm has a full blown mythological heroes journey complete with traveling into hell to retrieve a magic herb for her lover and it was loving great. Now that the motifs that I have been talking about are now in the forefront and plot structure, really deconstructing this now obvious myth stuff we be me saying "It's important to note that the firetruck is red because it is a firetruck". It's important to note this woman is a vulture goddess because she is space bird lady who likes to kill!
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MonsterEnvy posted:Stryfe is also lame. Yeah maybe a bad example. I'd always read about the Legacy virus and child me got the real world parallels, but child me didn't know it was made by Cable's rear end in a top hat clone brother who looks like the Silver Samurai. Uh uh I dunno has everyone died and woken up in Australia yet?
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There is a Legacy virus plotline in the original series but it’s not specifically called that
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Yeah that episode didn't do it for me at all. One thing about this series that I liked is that it seemed like it was gonna be a bit bolder and not instantly return to the status quo instantly like comics tend to do. With the combo of Storm getting re-powered and Xavier coming back that does not seem to be the case. I could accept the Storm stuff but Xavier is meh as hell imo. Wouldn't be surprised if we get Gambit back and Magneto as an antagonist by episode 10 now. It's a pity really. Following up the best episode with one of the worst is a feat I guess. Cirvot fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Apr 17, 2024 |
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srypher posted:Was that Vulcan towards the start of the episode fighting Kree? Can't imagine he's too cool with Xavier being there I'm curious what they're going to do with Vulcan down the line, but I can't imagine they're going to straight-up do, "Xavier sent a team of X-Men to their deaths, then mindwiped everyone to cover his tracks," for the cartoon. God, that was right on the heels of, "Xavier enslaved a self-aware AI being and kept it on the downlow so his students could have a state-of-the-art rec room." They were really making him the worst back then.
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Cirvot posted:Yeah that episode didn't do it for me at all. One thing about this series that I liked is that it seemed like it was gonna be a bit bolder and not instantly return to the status quo instantly like comics tend to do. With the combo of Storm getting re-powered and Xavier coming back that does not seem to be the case. I could accept the Storm stuff but Xavier is meh as hell imo. Wouldn't be surprised if we get Gambit back and Magneto as an antagonist by episode 10 now. I'm genuinely curious if you thought the story was going to be 'Storm loses her powers, leaves the X-Men... the end'? Because that sounds markedly worse
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The real question: is Xavier going to keep his fancy golden space-exoskeleton legs?
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Unless I misread/misinterpreted it, I wasn't crazy about the way for Storm to get her powers back was just 'believe in yourself, the power was inside you all along!' Storm was never a character that screamed 'self-doubt', and the only reason she felt that way now was because her powers were taken away. In fact, when she was flying around in her new magic costume after getting her powers back, I started to become pretty sure that the entire 'Forge gets sick, the Adversary is attacking' plotline was taking place in her head while she was in Forge's power-restoring machine. That would have been a good way for them to have the plot where she has to face her demons and come out on top, and ALSO her powers are fixed by Forge's science that took them away in the first place. And yes, I did get this idea from the Futurama episode where Bender has to learn too work with Robot 101. OldSenileGuy fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Apr 17, 2024 |
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it was fun that they made sure Gladiator explicitly used most of superman's iconic powers in the few seconds he's fighting on screen
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Oh yeah btw ep 4 was weeks ago but I only just realised that Mojo having an old Jubilee around is something from an early 90s Wolverine story were they both end up at the end of time with Spiral and Mystique (Jubes having followed Logan and Mystique to a seedy motel and ended up thinking he was sleeping with Jean). Logan rides a nuke into Mojo's face.
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Shoehead posted:Oh yeah btw ep 4 was weeks ago but I only just realised that Mojo having an old Jubilee around is something from an early 90s Wolverine story were they both end up at the end of time with Spiral and Mystique (Jubes having followed Logan and Mystique to a seedy motel and ended up thinking he was sleeping with Jean). Logan rides a nuke into Mojo's face. quote:In the Crunch, the missile comes through the vortex and Wolverine hops on and redirects it toward Mojo. As he speeds by fighting off Plasma Wraiths, the skeleton in the past suddenly vanishes, and when Jubilee fights back against Mojo, Abcissa suddenly vanishes from existence as well. Free from her bonds, Jubilee jumps free from Mojo and hops on Wolverine's Harley and speeds by the missile and pulls Wolverine off it. They drive through the time vortex back into the past just before the missile strikes Mojo, allowing the Crunch to happen and preserving the universe. Maybe I do need to read some Larry Hama Wolverine after alll....
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I begrudge no woman her Sailor Moon costume change moment.
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NikkolasKing posted:Ep 6 Ending Spoilers + Comics question Trask in the comics was an anthropologist who greatly feared the mutants becoming the tyrant rulers of earth once their numbers increased and more started abusing their power. Trask created the Sentinals to defend humanity but screwed up the programing resulting in them becoming hostile.    After this he quickly realizes that Master Mold and the Sentinals are a far greater threat than the mutants were and that he was wrong to act on his fears in that manner, he sacrifices his life to destroy Master Mold while the X-men fight the Sentinels. Other successors have been the primary ones continuing his work with Sentinels. Most notably his son first who blamed Mutants for his father's death as Trask died before publicly renouncing anything and the circumstances of his death were not known. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Apr 18, 2024 |
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OldSenileGuy posted:Unless I misread/misinterpreted it, I wasn't crazy about the way for Storm to get her powers back was just 'believe in yourself, the power was inside you all along!' Storm was never a character that screamed 'self-doubt', and the only reason she felt that way now was because her powers were taken away. Forge's machine did work. She's had her powers back since episode 4, the self-doubt that was exacerbated by losing them was creating a mental block which she overcame this week leading to that costume change moment.
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OldSenileGuy posted:Unless I misread/misinterpreted it, I wasn't crazy about the way for Storm to get her powers back was just 'believe in yourself, the power was inside you all along!' Storm was never a character that screamed 'self-doubt', and the only reason she felt that way now was because her powers were taken away. the machine DID work.. AND she had a mental block caused by the trauma of losing them. both can be true efb'd but agreed
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MonsterEnvy posted:Trask in the comics was an anthropologist who greatly feared the mutants becoming the tyrant rulers of earth once their numbers increased and more started abusing their power. Trask created the Sentinals to defend humanity but screwed up the programing resulting in them becoming hostile. I appreciate this very thorough answer, thank you.
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NikkolasKing posted:I do have to say I hope they stick with this Sinister and not the one I'm reading in Krakoa in the comics. I know he has his fans but I'm not one of them. Your propensity for terrible entertainment opinions is truly uncanny and astonishing. Gaz-L posted:I'm genuinely curious if you thought the story was going to be 'Storm loses her powers, leaves the X-Men... the end'? Because that sounds markedly worse To be fair, in the comics it is an actual journey for them. There's the mourning period followed by uncertainty, then she just gets on with being the leader of the goddamn X-Men because she doesn't need powers to do it. It was literally 2 years worth of stories, whereas here it's all wrapped up in a mere 4 episodes, which feels way too fast and cheap.
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I think this show's Sinister has a fair amount of his modern self's flamboyance and drama.
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