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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Also about the "young adult" moniker, in case that turns you away. Claudia Gray has said that she doesn't target teenagers with her YA books, her take is that "young adult" means that the work focuses on young adults to some degree, rather than the prose being written for that level.

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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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What the hell, this is pretty crazy:

https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-the-vow-of-silver-dawn-china-exclusive-novel-adds-canon-sector-galaxy

They’ve done foreign language adaptions of material before with the various manga, and I guess you could count some Star Wars Marvel UK unique material that’s never been reprinted elsewhere. But to get a canon novel for the Chinese market tied into the High Republic with no plans to translate? Wow.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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FWIW, the people working for the Whills writing the story of Star Wars talk about Kirk and Spock in the ESB From A Certain Point of View. Their bits are generally pretty hilarious in those collections.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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High Republic will be getting a live stream launch event in little under an hour with some of the authors and publishing team:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uILPgvzj708

The first books, The Light of the Jedi, and the youth focused A Test of Courage hit stores tomorrow.

Claudia Gray's YA book Into the Dark hits February 2nd.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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jivjov posted:

A certain subset of nerds is gonna be Big Mad about Light of the Jedi

When I saw this earlier today, I honestly thought this might have been about the gay married San Tekkas. Having finished more of the book, I realized you were probably talking about something else.

I'm done with Light of the Jedi now. It was a solid start to the series. It certainly brings up some interesting plot hooks for the future, including the hyperspace pathing stuff spoilered above, at least in so far as how that works.

More returning(?) Jedi than I initially considered, with both Oppo Rancisis and Yarael Poof joining Yoda as Council members still.

Thought the Nihil were interesting villains, thankfully more so than what I initially thought when the series was announced. The obvious question, being how they would be a match for the Jedi, and at this stage, they really weren't, but it seems like the stage is being set for things to get more deadly.

As the Nihil command structure got explained, with the usage of "Cloud" and weather imagery, and with the masks, I thought it was a setup to explain the origin of Enfys Nest's maternal line, but that never happened. Maybe that's still to come.

Jedi seemed varied and interesting. Was interesting to see varied force uses, including what I guess is Battle Meditation being reintroduced to canon.

Marchion Ro seems decently developed up until this point, no apparent ties to the Sith or the Jedi, but it looks like there's some sort of galactically oriented history there fueling his desires.

Technology wise, everything thing felt about right. Nothing too far off from where we'll end up being, other than that it still feels weird for the galaxy to not be as wide open this close to the PT. But I guess it's just a matter of thinking of it more like the U.S. somehow having the interstates in place in the 1700s, and then they filled in the rest as they expanded.

Teek fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Jan 7, 2021

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Chairman Capone posted:

Can you (or someone else) explain this a bit more?

Nothing too big, It's just a mantra a lot of the Republic related figures offer to affirm their devotion to the common good of the Republic. There's a big push in the series for public works projects and outreach to new and existing member worlds. Basically the Republic chancellor is big on developing technology to expand, strengthen and support the Republic. It looks like it's in the common vernacular, and a lot of representatives have bought into the mindset.

Basically it seems like the series is going to be the challenge of the Republic straining against their growth and prosperity. It's been relatively peaceful (for several hundred years sounds like?), there's no central military and forces are beginning to conspire and coalesce against it. It's not that the Republic/Jedi are complacent either, it's just that they're running up against opponents with the means and methods to provide an actual threat to the Republic as a whole.

The Jedi at least are actively attempting to reach out on the frontier as a force for good, in conjunction with the Republic's technological push to set up new communication and travel beacons. It kind of acts in opposition to how both the Republic and Jedi operate by the time they both fall.

Teek fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Jan 8, 2021

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.

jivjov posted:

This gets addressed as the book goes on

Yeah, I thought this was one aspect that came together pretty well. Still to be determined if they will be refined into a more calculating force, but it seems that Marchion is going to try to make them into something more than a generic "rah-rah plunder!" group that they started as.

They seem to have the technology to become more deadly, it'll just be a matter of person power. And with the Nihil being composed of many species, it seems like they could draw in lots of people/factions potentially wary of the Republic's spread.


I also finished A Test of Courage.

Thought it was a solid entry aimed at 7-13 year olds. Appears to take place about 80% of the way into Light of Jedi. It's a fairly straight forward story, with some varied teen characters being put into a stressful situation after they escape the Nihil destruction of their ship. I like the main Jedi Vern, who brings lightwhips back into canon again. She appears to be a 18ish old Jedi Knight prodigy, who is well on her way to being one of the important Jedi characters going forward. Her ease and natural affinity for the Force bring some jealousy/anger out in the younger PTSD'd Padawan Imri who is thrown into the situation with her. After Imri's Master was killed by the Nihil earlier in the story, Vern is tasked with being his master at the end. Should set up a nice dynamic for when they appear again.

Teek fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Jan 12, 2021

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Cool! Promo video from the official Star Wars channel for Vern. I think she'll also be a lead in a later YA book, so it looks like she'll be a main player for the line:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnWuQAYBp24

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5phi7oXDms

First The High Republic Show episode. Really happy to see them leaning so far into the series through official channels.

I thought it was amazing to see a Vector Prime commercial on TV back in the day narrated by Mark Hamill. It's cool to see the literature side getting a big marketing push.

Teek fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jan 27, 2021

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Yeah, I think it's the continuity being in a constant state of flux around the series and era. They don't want to constrain Favreau and Filoni. I would think they could do a one-off story about Mando tracking down a bounty before the first episode, but maybe they don't think that would be a draw.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Does Disney+ have standard definition content, just uprezzed? Wondering how a lot of that older stuff will look. I doubt they had masters for the old cartoons they could re-encode?

Happy to see Disney is still pushing the back catalog though.

Teek fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Mar 17, 2021

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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StarWars.com released info on their next big batch of High Republic releases coming this summer. All of these were known, but we got summaries now:

https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-high-republic-next-wave

Seems that the next big plot arc will be centered around a galactic fair.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Chairman Capone posted:

This is going to be a bit of an odd tangent, but a relative gave me a Star Wars day-of-the-year desktop calendar for Christmas, and as I don't generally use them, I sometimes fall a bit behind. I was catching up on the last few days, and the May 14 page is on the Rebel base from Rise of Skywalker, and it has this to say:
So the planet from Episode IX is supposed to be where Luke set up his Jedi Temple?

I don't think so, I think that's just saying Luke trained some other students along with Leia on that planet. He then later set up the temple somewhere.

That's also just a calendar, I wouldn't use that as a go to source. The supplemental guide materials are sometimes overwritten and contradict each other anyway. And that's not even going into how the visual media sometimes disregard their literature content.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Put me down for a Thrawn Trilogy redo in the new canon. I’d be interested to see Lucasfilm do a big multi year event with it. Use the Ahsoka, Rangers and Boba/Mando shows on the tv side tie ins, then have the OT crew in some new books, comics and cg movies to avoid the obvious issues. You could also get some OT crossover with Chewie or the droids appearing in the tv series. Could also theoretically have a young Ben appear in the shows.

I think an event like that would be a huge draw for the brand and could easily run several years. It could also serve to tie in to the ST (and help build up some good will to them? Cloning, the Skywalker saber, Luke’s feeling towards Ben, Snoke, etc..), and make the Thrawn trilogy connected in ways that it couldn’t do originally as the precursor to so much of the EU. Possibly do the Obi-Wan clone angle? Could probably skip Luuke…

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Next wave of the first phase of the High Republic novels hits today. Seeing a lot of good reviews for the adult targeted novel, The Rising Storm. Also hitting is the junior targeted Race to Crashpoint Tower.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Finished The Rising Storm. I think I liked it over Light of the Jedi. Have a better sense of the growing cast and state of the galaxy. Also wondering how the Nihil will shake out, as Ro attempts to reshape their nature. And now having an Erdrich horror as his new familiar will help.

Also having Avar’s big Drengir source campaign happening off page, I’m guessing in a future comic/book actually did a bit of work for making it feel like a bigger threat and aspect to this series.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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thrawn527 posted:

I should note this is just about the two "novels". I haven't read the YA novels, or the comics or any other stuff.

I'd say try out Into the Dark, the introduction to the Drengir. It's not a "big event" book, mainly just an adventure with some mysterious goings on. It also features one of Star Wars most dynamic characters in Geode. Just amazing amount of action and daring from him.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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One thing about the "frontier" aspects of the Outer Rim. Basically it's not that all these regions are being newly accessed, just that they're finally getting an interstate out to them. In my mind, it's the change from the classic US Route 66 to the new interstate system. You could get to those places, it's just much easier by the time of the PT era. And the Unknown Regions by the time of the ST, is still even further back in time, like early 1800s western America.

Also, Yoda being "just off screen" is him being in the comics. He's been an active character there. It seems the characters will be moving back and forth between the High Rrepublic publishing arms between phases. So the High Adventures comic characters appeared in Race to Crashpoint Tower this phase, and Avar was in the comics this phase rather than the books. I'm sure Yoda will get some book appearances coming up after mainly being in the comics so far.

Teek fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Jul 21, 2021

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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BigRed0427 posted:

Hey guys, are the High Republic Books any good?

I wanna read dumb Jedi Adventures.

Yes, I would say all the books, save for Race to Crashpoint Tower, have been decent to good. RCT is basically a side story to another book, and doesn't really add much. There are three levels of books for adults, young adult and kids, and so far only the RCT kids book has been meh.

All the other books are introducing characters and events that carry over. RCT does involve some of the comic characters and looks to cross back some of its new characters back into comics.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Cross-Section posted:

I liked the bounty hunters story with IG-88 and.. Zuckuss, I think, happening upon a YT-1300 converted into a casino ship while searching for Han and crew

Overall though, there felt like there were less standout stories than the ANH one

Same. There's a few too many "random citizens on Cloud City" stories that don't really bring much to the table.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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There is!

There's also a story about the captain and Star Destroyer that gets blown up in the asteroid field.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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jivjov posted:

I had this feel about the cantina aliens stories in the first book. I like seeing these randos get their backstories explored, but shotgunning 6 or 7 of them starts to feel repetitive

At least with them you have a face with the name, many of the Cloud City people were brand new and not easily tied to an on screen appearance.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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The new manga adaptations are supposed to be pretty good.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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thrawn527 posted:

We have an OP for just such an occasion!

It's mostly up to date, because there haven't been a lot of worthy books to add lately. Except maybe the High Republic books, but I personally think it's too early to tell.

Whenever you get around to updating the OP, might also be worth highlighting the Aftermath character Cobb Vanth made the very rare and appreciated jump from written canon to visual canon.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Slashrat posted:

Anyone got any idea why Disney isn't so hot anymore on making their Star Wars comics in-house through Marvel?

The majority, like 90%, of them are still through Marvel.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Arquinsiel posted:

Presumably this is what's happening in phase 2. We got a lot of hints as to why they are doing things across the various books, but it's been tough to work out why the Republic doesn't put a bit of effort into hunting them down.

Have you read The Fallen Star and comics? That's pretty much been the ongoing Avar plot for the last half of phase 1. But basically Ro has been playing the Republic and portraying the Nihil as on their last legs as he tosses several of the factions to the wolves to do that. So the Republic has been getting the wrong idea about their strength and leadership structure.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Rey's parents are named in the upcoming Shadow of the Sith book. An excerpt released gives their names as: Dathan and Miramir.

Unfortunately he was not named Triclops. Miramir seems like she might also have some type of mysterious family thing with the mention of her grandmother.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Shadow of the Sith reviews are hitting this morning and have been very positive from the ones I've seen:

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2022/06/review-hope-pierces-through-in-adam-christophers-star-wars-shadow-of-the-sith.html
https://www.cinelinx.com/off-beat/the-rack/star-wars-shadow-of-the-sith-does-more-than-fill-the-gaps-book-review/

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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There’s also the issue that the OT actors are basically playing characters that should be around 10 years younger than what they actually are. Hamill at 63 was playing a character of 53.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Having just finished phase 1 of the High Republic novels last week, I’m a bit torn. I’ve only read a few of the comics and it does feel like they hit their stated goal of making it a real cross-medium project in the vein of Shadows of the Empire.

Ultimately the novels are good, but it feels like if you’re not also catching at least the mainline comic, and possibly the audio novel, then you end up missing about 25% of the story. I plan to carry on with phase 2, but I’m left wishing we might have gotten a bit more time to explore the state of things in phase 1, and not had to deal with a lot of “See High Republic #12 True Believers!” in the novels.

I think they’re worth a read, it’s probably been the most freeing Star Wars prose has had in a very long while. I also have to give the authors and Lucasfilm crew props for how decently plotted and connected everything is. I got the Art of High Republic book and they seem to have met often and really focused on literally sketching out how they want it to look and feel.

Teek fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jan 3, 2023

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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FWIW, all the PT had an extra year between releases (3 years versus 2), so they had some more room to roll out additional content in between movies. You can squeeze in more freeform releases, when you aren't immediately bumping into the release of the new movie due to the shorter development cycles. Basically the problems the movies already had by being released quickly without an overall plan, only exacerbated the issues SW was having releasing unified content.

Teek fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Feb 2, 2023

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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I’ve started the teen novel for Phase 2, really enjoying the apparent hook for this phase. With the Force cult seeking to challenge all the other Force faiths in the galaxy due to their hosed up beliefs.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Is it Billy Dee or Glover who has six fingered hands?

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

new canon. high republic.

https://www.starwars.com/news/every-star-wars-the-high-republic-book-and-comic-series

Your mileage will vary, but I've been reading most everything except for some of the High Republic Adventures comics, and I think I've gotten pretty much everything down. I'm just starting Phase 2, which is in the process of wrapping up. Here's my recommendations, marking + next to ones I recommend. It's a lot, and you could stick to the main adult novels, but you will be missing out on some context:

Phase 1:
+ Light of the Jedi (Start of the series, an adult level novel. Introduces main villains)
+ Into the Dark (Young Adult novel. Introduces secondary villains)
+ A Test of Courage (Young readers novel. Introduces some of the main characters going forward in the HR, including one who will later show up in The Acolyte tv series.)

+ The High Republic Marvel Comics (Events get referenced a lot in the books, and serve to introduce and wrap up some plot beats. Available on Marvel Unlimited)
High Republic Adventures Comics (A bit tangential but features a young cast dealing with all the events. Later play a bigger part in Midnight Horizon YA novel. Released by IDW, so not on Marvel Unlimited)
There are a couple of other HR mini-series comics like Trail of Shadows that are worth checking out if you happen to have Marvel Unlimited.

+ The Rising Storm (Second adult novel)
Race to Crashpoint Tower (Happens concurrent to The Rising Storm. I think you can skip this one)
+ Out of the Shadows (Second YA novel. Picks up on characters from A Test of Courage at a now higher reader level)

+ Mission to Disaster (Young reader novel, follows Out of the Shadows)
+ The Fallen Star (Final adult novel of this phase and helps close it out)
Midnight Horizon (Last YA novel of this phase. Features characters for the High Republic Adventures comics and Race to Crashpoint Tower. Is concurrent to The Fallen Star. Some people are really high on this novel, I didn't care for it)

Eye of the Storm Comic (2 issue series that wraps up this phase with some villain backstory, which leads into the "prequel" Phase 2. Available on Marvel Unlimited)

Phase 2:
+ Path of Deceit (Young Adult novel that introduces the main villains for this phase. I think it's a really strong start to what this phase is about.)
+ The High Republic Marvel Comics (Big part of the narrative hook for this Phase)
High Republic Adventures Comics (Now released by Dark Horse, so not on Marvel Unlimited)

They have also released some adjacent audio novels, manga, etc. but I've haven't read/listened to these.

By this point I think you can probably judge how invested you are in what's being released and can go from there.

Teek fucked around with this message at 22:43 on May 1, 2023

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Sure that's fine. The Rising Storm is about the Nihil attack on The Republic Fair.

Also I made some corrections to the above post for the young reader comics, Young Jedi Adventures is the upcoming animated show, High Republic Adventures is the comics, first released by IDW, and now released by Dark Horse. They aren't on Marvel Unlimited.

Teek fucked around with this message at 22:40 on May 1, 2023

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Rochallor posted:

What is there that's actually good in TRoS?

Here is my vague percentage good stuff for the saga:

TPM 75% - Good with weak plot elements
AotC 65% - Poor but some good core plot elements
RotS 75% - Good but weak plot elements
ANH 100% - Great
ESB 100% - Great
RotJ 95% - Great but re-treddy
TFA 80% - Good but very re-treddy
TLJ 80% - Good but sloppy plotting
TRoS 65% - Like others have said, good bits include a decent payoff for Force Skyping, Palpatine has some good hamming, Exegol, Best of bad situation with Carrie, Babu, Ben was good for his small appearance, Han’s “ghost” was good thematically with his TFA dialogue.

Points deducted for the saga for acting/scripting/plot/music etc.. Each has problem areas that might be good in theory, but left something to be desired.

Teek fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Aug 1, 2023

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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Some of the book High Republic material will finally be making the jump over to Young Jedi Adventures, the D+ High Republic animated series aimed at the real young ones:

https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-young-jedi-adventures-high-republic-book-characters?utm_source=twitter

Cool to see but a hearty lol that they choose to bring over Loden and Starlight. RIP to both

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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VaultAggie posted:

Has anyone read through Phase 2 of the High Republic? I enjoyed the first phase but backed off when I found out the timeline was jumping back 150 years.

The first book of Phase 2 was really good. That's as far as I got in the series, need to pick it back up now that Phase 3 has kicked off.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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No connection as far as I'm aware. I don't think any of the High Republic braintrust have any connection to that time period of Star Wars publishing either. Almost all the new and rotational authors have been brought in post-Disney acquisition.

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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

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I'll bump that thread, I've been more or less trying to keep up with their current Star Wars lines.

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