Auspol Infinity: Front of the queue off a cliff

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Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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CelestialScribe posted:

People who were in those exposure areas should definitely not. But everyone else shouldn't have to abide by any restrictions just because there's one case in the city.

I feel like Melbourne peeps have COVID PTSD or something. You can't enforce Stage 4 lockdown for a few cases, especially when the contact tracing is meant to be up to scratch now.

We�ve got hotspots now listed going back to the 21st, NSW has given us the gift of almost two weeks of potential undetected community transmission leading into New Years Eve you illiterate baboon

# ¿ Dec 31, 2020 02:52

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 08:27

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Just lockdown celestial scribe and he can watch his friends doorknob licking party on zoom

# ¿ Dec 31, 2020 05:16

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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CelestialScribe posted:

Just shut the gently caress up already.

What you�re basically saying is that Victoria hasn�t improved contact tracing at all. Which simply isn�t the case.

I get you might have had a lovely 2020 like all of us but it�s simply too early to tell whether this will be contained or turn into something worse.

gently caress off you barely sentient Petrie dish. We�ve got confirmed high risk locations going back to the 21st, and now two shopping centres, a cinema and a church.

# ¿ Dec 31, 2020 22:36

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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It�s loving incredible that the shrillest poster when it came to Dictator Dan not letting him lick doorknobs 5.1km from his house is now railing against the idea of responding early so we don�t get to that stage again.

Low risk and appropriate activity in a pandemic: whatever the gently caress celestialscribe personally wants to do at this very instant.

# ¿ Dec 31, 2020 22:40

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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CelestialScribe posted:

What do you suggest we do, then?

Could have started by just skipping the indoor New Year�s Eve gathering

# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 04:58

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Artificial kid probably works in public service (or more accurately a big consulting firm that services the public service) and has had their brain irrevocably broken by having to write regulatory impact statements. Having to write up stuff like what dollar value is too much to pay to prevent a child drowning in their backyard pool and getting permanent brain damage will do that to you.

# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 06:30

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Tommunist posted:

Can we get the blood thirsty Dutch dude back I liked him

Nah he�s left Melbourne for rural Mornington

# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 06:38

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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The Artificial Kid posted:

On the other hand, I wouldn�t say NSW needs to weld people into their houses right now, would you?

Speak for yourself. Whatever is needed to contain the Sydney virus.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2021 00:01

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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SHALASHASKA HAWKE posted:

Interested to know how much artist kid thinks a life is worth.

$3.5m for the value of statistical life (VSL) and $151 000 for the value of statistical life year (VSLY) (both of these are measured in 2007 dollars). Using CPI data to express these estimates in 2014 dollars gives a VSL of $4.2 million, and a VSLY of $182,000.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2021 03:51

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Buttcoin purse posted:

How much should we be willing to pay to prevent someone from catching the virus and surviving it but being ill for months and suffering long-term health issues which aren't fully understood?

What is the economic value of people not being too afraid to leave the house and participate in the economy or seek treatment for their pre-existing or other medical conditions?

Many regulations have the benefit of reducing the risk of injury, disease or disability. One method to value these benefits is to adjust the value of statistical life year (which could be interpreted as the value of a year of life free of injury, disease and disability) by a factor that accounts for the type of injury, disease or disability. The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare has published disability weights for most diseases and injuries that can be used to adjust the VSLY (Mathers et al 1999, pp. 186-202). As an example, an amputated foot has a disability weight of 0.3, which equates to 30% of a VSLY or $54,600 per year (0.3*$182 000) when measured in 2014 dollars.

Some relevant weights
Mild asthma - 0.01-0.05
Severe asthma - 0.3-0.4
Severe chronic bronchitis or emphysema - 0.5-0.65

# ¿ Jan 2, 2021 07:17

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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A licence to post?

*scoffs*

# ¿ Jan 2, 2021 09:15

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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It�s also completely disingenuous to compare a mask mandate with things like colonoscopy screening because the former is a cost which would not otherwise be available for an alternative public health intervention (apart from however many masks you decide to make freely available to people)

# ¿ Jan 3, 2021 04:24

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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CelestialScribe posted:

Man that Victorian outbreak really got out of hand huh

Just outstanding timing to post this right after they�ve announced a mystery case they believe might have been acquired at either the MCG or Boxing Day sales at chadstone.

# ¿ Jan 6, 2021 00:51

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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freebooter posted:

This has happened to me the other way round trying to buy booze in the US, and it's so loving dumb given that in both instances you can legally drive using that license - so why shouldn't you be allowed to use it as proof of ID?

Because it's not reasonable to expect a random bottle-o worker to be able to confidently verify a drivers licence from a different country under threat of a $20,000 fine if they get it wrong?

# ¿ Jan 7, 2021 00:41

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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We should take the Scandinavian model, criminalise the purchasers but not the suppliers, send those drat kids to jail

# ¿ Jan 7, 2021 02:26

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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kirbysuperstar posted:

Albo got his car hit by a P-plater apparently.

This is basically every time he speaks in parliament

# ¿ Jan 8, 2021 12:13

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Konomex posted:

The new strain affects younger people even moreso than the last one, I don't know what the cut off is that the new strain won't infect you but I'm not sure the UK Doctors have said. Too busy zipping people into body bags apparently.

Ok doomer

# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 04:12

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Endman posted:

Nobody�s material conditions are alleviated by the rebranding of a type of cheese, but at least now we can shut up and stop talking about it.

This is a dumb test to apply

# ¿ Jan 13, 2021 08:46

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Buttcoin purse posted:

We need these companies to explain exactly where the line is so we can ~~walk right up to it without stepping over it~~ cry like little babies when we get banned for clearly stepping over it
- conservatives everywhere.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2021 11:44

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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JBP posted:

Maybe 70,000 dead people should grant Alize some insight into why nobody cares that your game of tennis has been jeopardised.

Not emptyquoting

# ¿ Jan 18, 2021 06:09

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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perepelki posted:

thank you bj

i understand the incredulity about a liberal member saying this when the party has been actively trying to incite race wars since forever. but frydenburg isn't one of the main drivers of racial hatred - his crime is deliberately ignoring it, which has more to do with the fragility of his position than his own personal views. and in this case he's telling the truth, anti-semitism and holocaust denial are on the rise in australia and it's his duty to use his position to call attention to that.

i don't like the right wing of any country using anti-semitism as a cudgel against their enemies or to gloss over their own sins, especially as most of them hate the jews just as much as they hate everybody else, they just know better than to say it too loudly. but i also don't like feeling like a frog in a slowly boiling pot of bigotry. i wish frydenburg would talk about all the other forms of racism as freely as he talks about anti-semitism, rather than that he would talk about anti-semitism as little as he does everything else.

Frydenburg shouldnt get to have this excuse trotted out on his behalf when explicitly talking about how you need to actively confront anti-semitism even if it is difficult or inconvenient to do so.

# ¿ Jan 27, 2021 10:02

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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https://twitter.com/vicgovdhhs/status/1356001799031844864

For those who missed it

Solemn Sloth fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jan 31, 2021

# ¿ Jan 31, 2021 23:30

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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WA joins the stronk state club

# ¿ Feb 1, 2021 01:44

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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hambeet posted:

okay content:

hmm australia's special forces in afganistan... that's ringing a bell for some reason.

Sounds like this little prick is making GBS threads on Australia�s greatest ever leader John Winston Howard

# ¿ Feb 1, 2021 09:34

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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The Peccadillo posted:

Pretty sure that's not true!

Seems to have as much evidence behind it as what you�re saying?

# ¿ Feb 5, 2021 13:55

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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bell jar posted:

"also we will arrest you if you try and dissuade him in any way"

Well obstructing a police officer is a crime to be fair

# ¿ Feb 6, 2021 10:54

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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bell jar posted:

Why do we need a vaccine with superior effectiveness? We are already as close to elimination as we're going to get. Giving everyone the A-Z vaccine will make it even easier for us to keep the virus under control.

I would rather that countries with higher death rates/sincere need got the more effective vaccines before us.

Revolting lack of parochialism here

# ¿ Feb 7, 2021 01:04

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Megillah Gorilla posted:

I'm not surprised by what Dutton did, but I am surprised by how cheap he is to buy.

They need to unionise

# ¿ Feb 10, 2021 23:55

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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freebooter posted:

This was also the reasoning behind including the Mornington peninsula as part of "metro Melbourne" during the big lockdown

Mornington peninsula is considered a metropolitan local government area for pretty much everything, whether it�s landfill levies, land use planning, infrastructure funds etc. despite the bleating of the mayor there was really very limited scope for them to argue.

# ¿ Feb 12, 2021 04:46

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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freebooter posted:

I have a friend who seachanged down there and insisted all year it's "regional" and I spent so long trolling him about it I genuinely couldn't remember whether it's actually supposed to be or not

hosed up that you'd admit to being friends with Andrew Bolt

# ¿ Feb 12, 2021 05:15

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Tomberforce posted:

So does regional vic have the 5km restriction too? Because the nearest shop is 18km from my house hahaha

You�re explicitly allowed to go beyond 5km for the four reasons if you can�t meet them within your 5km

# ¿ Feb 12, 2021 09:12

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Yeast posted:

Hotel quarantine is a total loving embarrassment, and is broken as poo poo.

lol a PlayStation 4? loving scrub

# ¿ Feb 12, 2021 21:52

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Yeast posted:

You can�t get within 10 meters of the hotel lobby without being stopped.

Unless you�re carrying a Sony PlayStation 4

# ¿ Feb 13, 2021 00:44

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Laserface posted:

i had a friend come back from LA on compassionate grounds and while in quarantine he was:

-allowed to leave with a police escort between 10-4
-had his ps4 to play cod with his bros (me)
-had care packages from his mum
-was allowed to visit his sick/dying uncle

there was caveats around everything, mostly just returning consecutive negative test results. i think he was tested every day or every other day.

this was in sydney so maybe it was different in other states but yeah quarantine wasnt exactly quarantine.

Was the uncle sick/dying before the visit?

# ¿ Feb 15, 2021 01:55

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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freebooter posted:

I've heard policy wonks on Twitter say the feds don't actually have the staffing capacity to do it; the entirety of the 800 or 900 ADF medical staff are already working in it, and regardless of who's actually "in charge" of it, it would still be personnel from state-based health departments and hospitals actually running the program and working in the hotels.

I mean the State Governments also don't have normal operating capacity to run a quarantine program for every person entering the country, but they ramped up and brought additional people in or transferred them from other responsibilities?

# ¿ Feb 15, 2021 03:42

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Can�t we just send all the South African mutants to Perth like we�ve done for the last 30 years?

# ¿ Feb 15, 2021 06:07

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Electric Wrigglies posted:

From what I can work out, the efficacy being talked about when the different percentages are being thrown around is for no covid symptoms. The Pfizer one coming out with 90%+ no symptoms is beyond expectations as the original expectation was for vaccines to come out with >75% reduction in significant symptoms (Evidently all covid vaccines to date are having close to 100% survival effectiveness once sufficient time has passed). The data about AZ with the significantly reduced efficacy of no symptom on the SA variant does not mean that it will fall short on reducing significant symptoms (including debilitation and death). The data is not sufficient yet to evaluate that but it seems that the confidence is high that the AZ will still provide the protection as originally targeted or better.

Australia continuing as is until everyone has been vaccinated with a vaccine of their choice (even if it means vaccinating people twice) implies either Aus is willing to maintain current mitigations and sporadic lockdowns until 2022-24 (basically when I expect vaccines to get around to developing countries in sufficient quantity) or that those same countries should have their vaccinations bumped back to allow Australians to both start easing up restrictions sooner and get their choice of vaccine.

I think it is far more likely that vaccinations in Aus have been slower in part due to Australia letting the likes of Israel, the US and EU to get priority on vaccines (they need it more) and that once the vulnerable populations of Australia have been vaccinated then mitigations can and will start to be eased up. It makes sense that once the vulnerable populations are not likely to die or become debilitated, Australia will both ease up mitigations and hopefully prioritise vulnerable populations of other countries.

This is some fuckin League of Nations level naivety lol

# ¿ Feb 15, 2021 12:56

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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Amazing that the rotting corpse of Margaret thatcher is able to post in the year 2021

# ¿ Feb 16, 2021 07:30

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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I�m glad someone has stepped up to the plate to explain to GSC what being immunocompromised entails, it�s about fuckin time

# ¿ Feb 16, 2021 12:42

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# ¿ May 22, 2024 08:27

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
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I think all liberal staffers and MPs should be hanged personally but golly mindprobe that sure is an opinion you got there

# ¿ Feb 17, 2021 10:36

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