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XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
gonna go out on a limb and bet that 2021 is going to be even more poo poo than 2020

happy new year!

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XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

TheRat posted:

https://twitter.com/KateGreenSU/status/1345092824602177536

Labour are trying real hard to get in on the death-cult business

hnmm I wonder which parties were insisting schools should open in January mere days ago? probably not the labour party, at least, or this would look real loving weasely

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
racial justice can wait until the pandemic is over in *checks notes* 2025

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
https://twitter.com/wesstreeting/status/1345072318981271553?s=20

ummmm still not calling for schools to be closed are you, wes, but at least you've stopped actively calling for them to be open like you were just days ago

the real issue here is the dither and delay (with regard to making a decision we opposed until you made it)

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

crispix posted:

Les Dennis for Labour leader imo

OUR SURVEY SAYS

*ping*

hehehehehehehhhhehe :newlol:

REMEMBUUR t'ninetehs??!? eh??? d'ya remembuur?

tbf this is genuinely the only way they'd win in 2024

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
no ifs no buts was in the summer, but e.g. starmer insisted that schools should stay open during the November lockdown

https://twitter.com/lisanandy/status/1322839946214989825?s=20

and Nandy insisting schools should open in January happened after the new strain had been announced

https://twitter.com/LabourList/status/1340975305624854535?s=20

it is absolutely ok to say "schools should be the last thing to shut, and the first things to open", but even now they can't bring themselves to actually back the teachers unions and call for all schools to stay closed, they are merely attacking the Tories for confusion and delay because they're too loving cowardly to say "hmmm actually it's clearly not safe to reopen any school at the moment"

it's just ridiculous disingenuous poo poo

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
it is a weird coincidence that the coronavirus cases were about 1000 a day all summer and then suddenly started accelerating around September the 1st, but I presume this is unrelated to anything that might have happened around that date

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
opposition attack politics isn't what he should be doing, he should be advocating loudly and constantly for the right thing

ironically, his insistence on not doing "opposition for opposition's sake" i.e. basically never contradicting the government until it's way too late, is exactly the kind of stupid political game playing he is ostensibly trying to avoid

like loving "abstaining in the national interest" on the loving tiers system! you have votes in parliament, at least loving try demanding some concrete thing you think would be better rather than just going "well I don't agree with the legislation but it's better than nothing so I won't vote for or against"

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1333515798091063297?s=20

especially ironic given he then voted for a trade deal he didn't support "in the national interest"

he's just a stupid inconsistent prick, at least if he was a smooth political operator it might be slightly easier to accept him being such a right wing twat

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Real Cool Catfish posted:

Didn’t realise the lads up top were trying to speedrun 2021 into the ground but they’ve done a masterful job. How last minute will they close schools?

probably tomorrow evening

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

loving lmao

great job

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

don't worry we have a plan

https://mobile.twitter.com/LizzyBuchan/status/1345666417396506625?s=20

ok so they miss half of asymptomatic cases, but on the bright side there'll be so many cases that they're bound to find some of them

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

GreyjoyBastard posted:

my understanding of european time is that half seven is 6:30pm, although i suppose you're no longer european

isn't that just German

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

when I want people to stop making fun of me, I make sure to :qq: extra hard about it in public forums so they know how much they're getting to me

e: also very well in polls is an interesting way to phrase "2 points ahead in a single poll"

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

https://twitter.com/SenseiChanning/status/1345687077439082496?s=20

lol

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
that entire thread is just :psypop:

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Dabir posted:

already gone

https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1345689318308896768?s=20

it's because they've actually been laughing at us for years

(as they should)

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

jiggerypokery posted:

Has anyone got any footage of him actually saying "we should keep schools open" in the last week or so?

he said on Sunday afternoon that he "didn't want to add to the chaos that would be caused by having all schools closed tomorrow", which is a roundabout way of saying schools should stay open

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr0sQwkVdAs

tbf he did say that school closures were inevitable, although if they're inevitable it seems a bit shortsighted not to demand that they happen as soon as possible, so that doesn't win you many points. especially when you turn around to demanding immediate school closures 24 hours later (after it was briefed that schools would be closing)

also you lose more points for saying it's too short notice to close schools when people have been talking about it for a week and you've deliberately waited until Sunday afternoon to make a statement

I'll see if I can find some earlier statements but he was pretty much silent on the issue beforehand iirc

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Lungboy posted:

I think his shadow education person said they must stay open but need to close but must stay open.

yeah, yesterday morning lol

https://twitter.com/KateGreenSU/status/1346031723528806402?s=20

although it's really just waffling bullshit about how "we want kids to be in school, the right place to be is in school" which could be read as more aspirational about the way things ought to be ideally than an actual position on how things need to be right now

but that waffling bullshit is half the problem, and they very pointedly did not back teachers and call for school closures, choosing instead to harp on about chaos and confusion caused by the government's policy (a fair point, but maybe explicitly outline the only actual alternative?)

but yeah, they specifically refer to school closures "as already happening, and more are inevitable" rather than "something that needs to happen nationally and immediately" from Sunday afternoon up until the government briefed it had changed its mind, all while complaining about the government's chaotic indecisiveness

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
also I still can't believe this oval office actually said this bit


bojo posted:

I completely understand the inconvenience and distress this late change will cause millions of parents and pupils up and down the country.

Parents whose children were in school today may reasonably ask why we did not take this decision sooner.

The answer is simply that we have been doing everything in our power to keep schools open, because we know how important each day in education is to children’s life chances.
just bring up that question and then basically not answer it

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Flayer posted:

The bungled response has been no help to the capital class either in this country, it's a downer for everyone. The US went ahead with the straight up "gently caress the people" option, we've gone for all-round incompetence that helps nobody.

:britain:

I presume there is Boris rule 34

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

jiggerypokery posted:

I missed the memo on this... schools were actually open yesterday but not today? That is deranged

yes

now some of you may ask why on earth they would do that when presumably they had at least an inkling that they were going to shut down schools very immediately, and to those people I say that the government's only real crime is caring about children's education too much

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

JollyBoyJohn posted:

What's Neil Oliver done that makes him a oval office

he's anti lockdown and goes on talkradio and retweets Paul Watson

think he also has very bad history opinions, and he supported David Starkey when he went on Darren Grimes show to complain about black people

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18559384.nts-doubles-neil-oliver-defence-amid-david-starkey-row/


quote:

As Oliver’s tweet resurfaced, it also emerged he had liked a tweet praising a member of a sports team for seemingly refusing to take a knee – a pose which has become synonymous with the anti-racism Black Lives Matter movement.

It came weeks after the Coast presenter claimed the removal of slave trader statues, like that of Edward Colston in Bristol, was the first step to reintroducing the guillotine.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Ewan posted:

Gov is going to introduce requirement for covid tests for international arrivals

thank you time traveller from February 2020, this was a very sensible policy

oh...

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Are these on Spotify? I want to listen but don't want to have to sit in headphones to do so (I can stream spotify on my tv).

just looked and they are

https://open.spotify.com/show/1WuGVosgeZEDrCeWlg4pkr?si=pnRKH767Ti6qyuHviU_Hng

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
it should be illegal to go for a walk in the woods because you might enjoy it too much

all outdoor exercise should be strictly limited to industrial estates in the cold and wet, preferably at night, in order to prevent anyone lapsing into dangerous "recreation"

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
yes, she loves dawn raids

also if they bring back capital punishment she will enjoy that, especially if they let her do the throttling herself

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

a pipe smoking dog posted:

lol kieth has confirmed that contrary to his campaign promise he will not try to bring back free movement of he becomes pm.

I'm sure the fbpes will turn on him any second now...

is there any pledge he hasn't already turned back on?

demonstrating that you will quickly break any promises even before you get into power is presumably agreat way to get people to vote for you

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Mr Owl posted:

Then you get into the territory of "my understanding of science versus the government's response" and having to decide which rules apply or not which sure seems like what the people causing this surge seem to be doing... Stupid quandaries

the people causing this surge are the government, by forcing people into workplaces, public transport and schools (plus all their fuckups with schools and tiers/"lockdowns" towards the end of last year)

the rules are stupid and inconsistent, and even the loving government can't be arsed doing the bare minimum effort to pretend that's not the case

https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1348617565552185346?s=19

It would honestly be fine if they were a bit arbitrary and more heavily enforced, as long as they were clearly explained and sufficient to suppress the virus. But telling people they can't take a coffee with them when they're walking or drive to a park that they'd be allowed to walk to, when you're also saying that everyone who can't reasonably work from home should go to work, is just pissing in the wind

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

forkboy84 posted:

Another cracker in yesterday's Morning Star that I heard no where else, there's a bill going through the Lords, the Covert Human Intelligence Sources Bill that is trying to make it illegal for under-18s to be used as undercover sources for the filth. And of course, our bold opposition have largely abstained with the notable exception of Baroness Shami Chakrabarti. Hell to the yeah.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/11/labour-facing-another-split-over-police-immunity-in-spy-cops-bill

I think you'll find she's just trying to cause trouble by not abstaining on this piece of poo poo bill


quote:

Labour sources complained that Chakrabarti was trying to inflame internal divisions between the Corbyn and Starmer supporting wings of the party. One said there had been “no real attempt” to engage with the party leadership on the issue.

where the party leadership at is


quote:

Keir Starmer, the Labour leader, had called on the party to abstain over the bill, arguing that statutory regulation of undercover operatives would have been necessary if the party had been in power, after the government only narrowly won a court case over the issue.

hey we'd do something just as poo poo so it's fine!

they've proposed some obviously doomed amendments apparently, but given Keith's MO I can't see them going back to amend it if he ever did win power

XMNN fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Jan 15, 2021

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

OwlFancier posted:

https://twitter.com/Devon_OnEarth/status/1350580707677110272

UKMT what is a chitterwagger? It sounds like a racial slur.

ah yes, people standing chatting in supermarkets (I've seen precisely zero) are definitely the major cause of this, and not e.g. the government

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
https://mobile.twitter.com/wrigh2uk/status/1351453903750111232

not watching nick Ferrari to find out if this is accurate, I'm just going to assume it is

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
these people are psychopaths

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1351315081502580737

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Jakabite posted:

I don't think that stat about people being readmitted then dying means that we're underreporting deaths. It's within 28 days of a positive test, not within 28 days of their first positive test. Presumably these people are being re-tested on re-admission.

It is actually the first positive test

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

quote:

Number of deaths of people who had had a positive test result for COVID-19 and died within 28 days of the first positive test. Data from the four nations are not directly comparable as methodologies and inclusion criteria vary. Data for the period ending 5 days before the date when the website was last updated with data for the selected area, highlighted in grey, is incomplete.

no indication whether they would start counting again on readmission, but they don't mention it and that would make the numbers go up so my guess would be no

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Jose posted:

i'm not sure why i find that qc melting down about nate bethea so funny

it's hilarious, mostly because it started from them getting outraged by an innocuous tweet re: Rafael behr and spiralled out of control because neither of them are capable of using Google

also because they've been posting night and day for 4 days and you'd think a grown adult would have better things to do than be hopping mad at internet strangers at 4 in the morning

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
https://mobile.twitter.com/inthesedeserts/status/1351644695714267141

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
i like the cinnamon cereal but its too expensive

nationalise fancy cereal

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Jose posted:

Some Tory MPs kicking up a fuss so of course he's bottling it and going to get a ton more people killed

https://twitter.com/joepike/status/1353649558367166464?s=19

https://twitter.com/joepike/status/1353658183252930560?s=20

lol

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Jakabite posted:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

Third worst death rate per capita in the world! And that's only really because of the tininess of Slovenia and the relative smallness of Belgium.

and the Tories are still polling 40+ lol

I hate this country and many of its inhabitants

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

when you're a big brain journalist

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XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Jose posted:

is neil coyle the biggest oval office in the labour party?

https://twitter.com/coyleneil/status/1354746063522066433?s=20

lol skimming the text, it's apparently antisemitic to say that the board of deputies is a right wing organisation but you like jewdas

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