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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
2020. It's... over? We're into 2012 :clegg: 2021 now.

A brief summary of the past year: (some :nws:)

January
https://twitter.com/borisjohnson/status/1212679425629859840

February
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK2fszWUGCo

March
https://twitter.com/Jimllpaintit/status/1243554528680706049

April
https://twitter.com/llewcid/status/1306530293319446528

May


June
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04NXGb1pA6g

https://twitter.com/christiancalgie/status/1270106081969213444

July


August


September


October
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-ZTAdmOLIg

November
https://twitter.com/TheIDSmiths/status/1333355057056780288

December
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnFMLTTjgkM

https://twitter.com/SloughForEU/status/1343901000046931972

Also even though we now have two approved vaccines these may still be useful, because it's still ongoing:
Find Your Local COVID-19 Mutual Aid Group - or set one up
Also check:
https://freedomnews.org.uk/covid-19-uk-mutual-aid-groups-a-list/
https://secretldn.com/uk-community-aid-groups-by-area/
https://queercare.network/our-work/resources/covid-19/

In Other News :sax:
• The Government U-turns again on schools, except some of them.
• The SNP has appealed to Tory 'humanity' in government approach to refugees who are trying to cross the Channel.
• Debenhams stores are set to close with the loss of 12,000 jobs after attempts to find a buyer for the retailer fell through when JD Sports pulled out.
• Four people are killed after a large explosion at a waste water treatment works in Avonmouth, Bristol.
• The UK becomes the first country to approve the new Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, planning for 40 million in 2021, enough to vaccinate 20 million people.
• A group of former rugby players including Rugby World Cup winner Steve Thompson begin a claim against the game's authorities after being diagnosed with early signs of dementia, saying that repeated blows to the head from playing the sport are to blame.
• Protein folding is solved by London-based AI company DeepMind
• A new mineral, kernowite, is discovered in Cornwall.
• Brexit.

It is deep January. The sky is hard. The stalks are firmly rooted in ice.

Get Organized Month
UKMT December 2020 - Best viewed with Brexcape Navigator 4+
UKMT Autumn 2020 - Thou shalt have a Rishi act a little fishi
UKMT Summer 2020 - Two Pints of Saline and Abacavir for Drip
UKMT May 2020 - Let them eat Nando's
UKMT April 2020 - The Betacoronavirus and the Virgin Atlantic
All Previous Threads (thanks Pesky Splinter)

Rubber Ducky Day
Europol Thread
Scotpol Thread
Trainchat Thread
Political Cartoons Thread
C-SPAM: BREXIT
BYOB: UKMT

Static Electricity Day
Podcasting is Praxis - The official podcast of the UKMT with UKMT goons talking into microphones about things.
Off the Fence - Brighton based, covering UK & Global topics. Pretty chill and professional peeps. Older 'casts can be found in the PLATFORM B archive.
Reel Politik - The Original Leftie Hate Trolls. Check 'em out.
We Don't Talk About The Weather - Two cool guys discuss news and other stuff. The second-most UKMT-iest of Podcasts.
Desolation Radio - Socialism from a Welsh perspective. Informative hosts.
Revolutionary Despatches - Two new guys starting out.
Connected & Disaffected - Breezy discussions of lefty social, and historical topics, and news updates. Pretty Good.
Trashfuture - Theme of the week style podcast about capitalism and how much it fucks up. Cool podcasters, sometimes working with Reel Politik
Agitpod - Owen Jones & Ellie Mae O’Hagan discuss news.
Reasons to Be Cheerful - Former Labour leader Ed "Red Ed" Milliband and Geoff Lloyd shoot the poo poo, and discuss general politics. Sometimes with guests.
Novara Media - Numerous fluctucating commentators including Matt Zarb-Cousin, Max Shanly, and James Butler among others. Varying topics with guests.
[Citations Needed] - Covers the US, focussing on the media, PR, and assorted bullshit. Also some socialist history topics. Very informative.
Chapo House Media - More US focused, from a leftist perspective. Basically a US version of Reel Politik, but with better mics. Worth a listen.
General Intellect Unit - Podcast of the Cybernetic Marxists. Examining the intersection of Technology, (Left) Politics, and Philosophy; decently in-depth and theory-driven as podcasts go.
Alpha 2 Omega - Tom O'Brien talks political strategy.
Requires Improvement - Podcast of lefty teachers exploring all things education, from a socialist perspective.
Swampside Chats - "The highest communist podcast"

Data Privacy Day
Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance – Peter Linebaugh
Demanding The Impossible - David Morland
Demanding the Impossible: A History of Anarchism - Peter Marshall
Chav Solidarity - D. Hunter
No Shortcuts: Organizing for Power in the New Gilded Age - Jane McAlevey
Libertarian Communism – Isaac Puente Amestoy
At The Caf้ – Malatesta
The Method of Freedom – Malatesta
In Praise of Idleness – Russell
Political Ideals – Russell
Declaration – Hardt and Negri
Liberalism, a Counter History – Domenico Losurdo
God and the State – Bakunin
The Conquest of Bread – Kropotkin
Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism – V I Lenin
Anarchism and Other Essays – Emma Goldman
Social Reform or Revolution – Rosa Luxemburg
Violence – Slavoj Zizek
Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber
Crashed: How a Decade of Financial Crises Changed the World – Adam Tooze
Flat Earth News - Nick Davies
Hack Attack - Nick Davies
Ecology of Freedom – Murray Bookchin
Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left – Murray Bookchin
A Brief History of Neoliberalism – David Harvey
Let's Read Das Kapital – Karl Marx and Goons

Bittersweet Chocolate Day (thanks feedmegin)

quote:

I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land.

Banbury - trypsin
Barking :shittydog: - feedmegin
Bexleyheath and Crayford - Rolled Cabbage
Bristol East - Luxury Tent Carpet
Bristol West - Pistol_Pete, Rarity
Broxtowe - MikeCrotch
Bury St Edmunds - Cluncho McChunk
Canterbury - Spangly A
Chelmsford - Trickjaw
Cotswolds (yes, we do have one) - Yvonmukluk
Cumbernauld - mehall ('s partner)
Dulwich and West Norwood - maugrim
Ealing Central and Acton - Comrade Fakename
Edinburgh Central (s?) - Autonomous Monster
Edinburgh Central, Ipswich - Lord of the Llamas
Enfield Southgate - spiderbot
Glasgow Southside/Central - Niric
Havant - Last Emperor
Hertford and Stortford - Brovine
Hyndburn - Kegluneq
Leeds East - mrpwase
Leeds North East - Irving Washington
Manchester Central - Jakabite
Northampton - superLINUS
North-East Somerset (the long-shot campaign to unseat Jacob Rees-Mogg) - Darth Walrus
Salisbury (and Salisbury Momentum, which is now a thing that actually exists) - Wolfsbane
Sheffield South East - Cast_no_shadow, Mebh
South East Cambridgeshire - Stoic Fnord
Southampton (Test) - waffle, Nova88
St Austell & Newquay - Oh dear me
Stockport - Taear, Tesla was right
Swansea West - Borrovan
Tatton - Bundy
Watford - SpaceCommie
Wimbledon - chestnut santabag

The Effortpost's Graveyard (thanks goddamnedtwisto and UKMT goons)

Join us on synIRC for Question Time Awfulness and Stuff
#ukgoons on synIRC (thanks crispix).

Or on Discord for other UKMT Chat and Podcast Conspiring
https://discord.gg/QErneZT

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learnincurve posted:

Need something added to every OP. DWP have been told not to tell sanctioned people about this.

If you get sanctioned then to prevent your housing and council tax benefits falling like a house of cards, and in some case get access to a utility bill fund, call your local council for a "Nil Income Form".


Brexit

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Jan 1, 2021

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Ms Adequate posted:

Anyone else feeling weirdly free tonight? Just like... boundlessly unshackled from foreign bureaucrats or something?
I am feeling like hypothetically that someone could import whatever they liked through a container port as long as it was plausibly labelled for the next 3 weeks, does that count?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Niric posted:

2021 already unmasked as the most disappointing year on record
There's been mass divestment from Arctic oil and gas exploration as one of the positive things on record for 2020, so 2021 might see Ms. A acquire some sounding equipment of a truly terrifying scale if that's your thing.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Grouchio posted:

I got to become a Lord over a square foot of Aberdeenshire land for christmas.

How about you?
My grandad said he used to piss up the side wall of a pub in the granite city regularly, so I'm fairly sure that's the same thing by dog law, which in all probability should at least stand on equal footing to British land law by the end of this year.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Regarde Aduck posted:

If one person with a square foot kills all the other holders of squared feet, do they automatically obtain the title and can they combine it to actually become a real lord and get a castle and stuff?
That's how it historically worked, so I don't see any reason why it wouldn't now. But why start with the 1 sq ft owners?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Back in the day when they'd come into your yard and collect the bins, proper gents, mind you if any of these modern bin men came into my yard I'd have to demand ID. Not because I'm racist, I'm not, I've got the not racist card signed by Trevor Phillips, but some of these modern bin men you see...

Ms Adequate posted:

*Points at a random sparrow* Once I deal with DEFRA I'm comin' for youse
I think I could gather a few dozen persons of shot and pike and take *checks land list* Anders Holch Povlsen who looks like a bad goon who got banned from the forums. Can anyone confirm/deny?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

Ms Adequate posted:

NOW we're talking
I'm not even sure how you'd convert this to a sex thing

but after the year that has happened I'm willing to be open minded about it. It's definitely better as a sex thing than an arctic drilling thing.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Well, if there's a way that it can be shoved into an organ in order to generate a pleasurable response then I'm sure that not only will it be profitable in this new coming year but also that there will be people itt who are best placed to configure it so.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Sanitary Naptime posted:

the Sanitary Naptime Tory Blairite Trust Fund
Kathleen Stock has already taken all of that for this year, so anything you need for the good podcast, just ask :v:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Calendar says we get to do the second of January twice, one as Scotland, so I hope that's something new they're rolling out for all days.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Not even 12 hours in and the Tories have managed to excel at being fuckups with the vaccine.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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We just never bothered having it under control.

Almost back over 1,000 deaths per day.

Imagine if we'd handled it competently at the ports in February.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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ronya posted:

is one even just prepared to be the totalitarian dystopia that is Australia? And if not, why not?
Don't much like the climate op.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
In the end, the one thing that the government behavioral scientists couldn't control for was the behavior of the government.

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

The disease was always being transmitted by children, there was never an acceptable reason to allow them to spread it.
Yes, even if it weren't for the Kawasaki type effects seen in some kids (and how many is an acceptable number for that), keeping them as a vector was never acceptable. We know this from past analysis of flu pandemics, comparing schools open to schools closed.

There's the social reasons to argue for schools, lost learning, saving kids from chaotic home lives or worse things, but "schools now, schools forever!" as a point of moral certainty was never a sensible path.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

Bobstar posted:

I read a succinct phrasing of the problem earlier - all spare capacity is treated as waste. Look where that got us.
Yup, that's neoliberalism in a nutshell, with schools, hospitals, utilities, municipal water, everything. Like in the latter case reducing water waste is good, but it doesn't account for cases when people might need to be washing their hands five times as much.

Josef bugman posted:

Monday morning.
Well, I woke up Monday morning
With no way to open schools that didn't hurt
And the tier I had for breakfast didn't work
So I add one more for dessert

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal
Once again it seems that the "mysterious new strain" is being used to cover for the loving up the message with schools, as with cancelling Christmas.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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The horror of not being able to do business with e: ^^ yeah

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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CyberPingu posted:

It looks like one of those intentionally vulnerable web sites used to practice ethical hacking on.
Hacking The William Shatner Store would be ethical, yes.

e: ^^^ It's still a) not something that has been tested for in the studies, and b) not something that should be tested for in the highly vulnerable populations being prioritized. Getting everyone 80% immune is better than getting half of people 95% immune in general population during a pandemic, but ???% immune vs. 95% immune in specific target populations is not that.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Jan 2, 2021

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Keir Shatner.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

Comrade Fakename posted:

Jon Ronson’s book was a long time ago now, I believe he’s now explicitly added “Jews” to the list of people behind all that ails the world, along with the lizard people and so on.
I read the updated ebook version yesterday, with an afterword added around 2014. It's even better than I remember now that my brain has been further turned to mush understanding of the background has been increased by this thread, Behind the Bastards, the Qanon phenomenon, etc.

Afterword is basically "thank gently caress I wrote this in 2000, when you could still depict a Muslim extremist leader (Omar Bakri) as a kind of casual bigot but not especially frightening or competent, rather than them all being superterrorists in mountain fortresses" (at least until Four Lions) and further notes about a minor internet loudmouth called Alex Jones who pops up in several unrelated chapters to fall on his rear end (also Jones hated Icke for "making people think it was about lizard aliens instead of the real satanic NWO globalists" lol).

Icke at the point of the afterword still seemed purely on the lizard bus, but it's a shame that the afterword was 2014 (although I guess that tracks well with the book itself being 2000), because the "decent people don't want hooded robes, Hitler, and the n-word, they want the same politics in a button down shirt" bit from the 'New Klan' section predicted the 'peaceful ethnic cleansing' of the rise of the alt-right in 2015-16 perfectly and I'd have liked to have seen something on that in there.

Julio Cruz posted:

both famous for having the people wearing red getting absolutely destroyed
:golfclap:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Bobby Deluxe posted:

I've been criticised for mixing up viruses and bacteria before
_____\


e:

Failed Imagineer posted:

Avery Brooks psychologically assaulting Shatner through the medium of jazz piano
I am keen to know more.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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thespaceinvader posted:

Like... how the gently caress does the UK propose to enforce it?
Post Office stickers.

OwlFancier posted:

I find it difficult to parse the stupid government language but from reading the article I get the impression that if you don't provide documentation about the VAT you're paying then the goods will be stopped at customs, asuming they get checked.
Post Office stickers.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Jakabite posted:

I’d love a news person to just point out that scientific advice doesn’t tell you what to do - it gives you some facts and some estimates and some predictions with x% certainty and you use them to balance out other factors and make a decision. The fact this is so poorly understood, and literally never, ever talked about or acknowledged also boils my piss.
The news can't even bring on a scientist to explain the latest understanding of how sex and gender work without having to bring on a discredited radfem from the 70s to claim that it's all a trick to allow endocrinologists into your home bathroom for balance.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Convex posted:

At this point I'm surprised they don't have an alternative newsreader after each news item saying that everything the other presenter just said is all made up.
"We're here with Brendan O'Neill..."

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Drax is also a village in Yorkshire and a short name for the big power station there.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Gulping Again posted:

also looking at really old, cheap, or stupid things on a sofa.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

Of course the show was written by an Irish man born in India and named for characters in an American cartoon but that's also very, very British.
Well yeah, nobody calls it 'Anglo-Saxon humour', same with the good bits of the cuisine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huSP7PtctC4

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Nutapii posted:

I am completely uneducated on these matters, so this is a question - You're told to finish antibiotics as otherwise what you're left with is the strong ones that are now antibiotic resistant.

Are viruses so different to bacteria that this isn't an evolutionary driver that will come from having one vaccine dose (whether this is as the effects are all the virus dies or no virus dies, or they evolve too slowly), or will we end up making a bunch of small variants across our population?
The equivalent to antibiotics would be antivirals, not vaccines, although it's not a direct equivalent because bacteria are living things that happen to be living where they're doing harm, whereas viruses are more like little balls of side effects of basing life on DNA/RNA encoding proteins, or as one poster put it 'predatory chemistry'.

Taking one dose of the vaccine would be more like having a cholera shot and not the booster, I guess. It trains your immune system but not with the same efficacy. But with the cholera shot you were told to act as if you could still spread it even if you weren't symptomatic, which is the general case with cholera anyway, it just lowers your odds of getting a symptomatic case and making GBS threads yourself for days/to death. With the Covid vaccine all the studies were based on two shots so anything otherwise is statistical guesswork.

It wouldn't be harmful to make the same assumptions here, get the first shot, keep wearing masks and distancing and washing your hands after you have touched your rear end hole.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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The Question IRL posted:


There was not.

That's the twist! :v:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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It's sound advice either way.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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How would kids forget how to use a knife and fork just from being at home for a while unless they're from a culture that doesn't typically use knives and foh it's just more soft racism.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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OwlFancier posted:

I am a culture that does not typically use knives and forks if I can avoid it. Eating with your fingers is cool and good, if god had not meant for the british to eat with their fingers then he would not have invented the chip butty.
Yes, it's also anti-english racism (the worst racism according to the EHRC) because it discriminates against sandwiches, what about the kids who bring sandwiches to lunch instead of having school meals, how is their knife/fork use being monitored/improved by school attendance?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Thinking back to primary school, sitting round the table it'd be >80% sandwiches and crisps, sometimes the Asian kids would have things like samosas which are still food inside starch eaten by hand, sometimes one of us would get something with chips and then the chips would become communal.

Hunger is hunger; but the hunger that is satisfied by a cooked meal eaten with a knife and fork differs from hunger that devours communal chips with the help of hands, nails and teeth.

I'm not sure how any of that helps knife and fork use, so I think they're just making poo poo up. :ms:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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South Korea: Population 51.6m, pop. density 515/sq. km, urbanization 81%. Covid deaths: 981. News latest - We have achieved nuclear fusion world record.
United Kingdom: Population 66.6m, pop. density 275/sq. km, urbanization 83% Covid deaths: 75,024. News latest - War criminal: my thoughts on vaccine.

We could have done it in the right order if we hadn't hosed up everything else.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Public Health 101 - If the public don't follow the rules then either the rules weren't fit for purpose or the communication and enforcement wasn't fit for purpose. (Or it was an unwinnable situation, but the existence of other places where this wasn't the case nullifies this.)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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And yet it's the closest to a traditional inactivated virus vaccine and has undergone Phase 3 trials in Brazil. Most of the opposition to further rollout there seems to be political between Sใo Paulo and Bolsonaro rather than a matter of science.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

My mother has 2 degrees and an MA so she's not thick.

(iii) didn't China also literally nail people into their houses if they had covid?
I think there's a happy medium between welding people into their houses and creating a set of 'guidelines' so opaque that they fail

Guavanaut posted:

Public Health 101 - If the public don't follow the rules then either the rules weren't fit for purpose or the communication and enforcement wasn't fit for purpose.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Ewan posted:

Unfortunately academic excellence does not automatically equal common sense and 'street smarts'.
Similarly 'common sense' apparently doesn't translate to acting sensibly in the face of unprecedented situations. You'd think in those cases everyone of an academic inclination would at least check out the latest expert thoughts but lol no.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Surprisingly Ireland uses more electricity per capita than the UK (but much less overall).

Each person in the Republic consumes on average 628W, whereas each person in the UK consumes 513W, but the UK government has been going around turning as many of them off as possible recently.

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Nov 27, 2009

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Comrade Fakename posted:

Cryptocurrencies are loving stupid but couldn't there be a way of running one where the mining actually processes data that's worth something for humanity? Like Folding @ Home or something.
No, because you'd need to know the correct answer in advance for the mining program to 'solve' it, and which point the mass data processing becomes unnecessary.

It's not all useless, you could feasibly have a number of parties who don't necessarily trust one another, but can verify who each other are (states, hawala networks, etc.), and are limited by treaty or common cause at how much power they can throw at it, use it to run a ledger between one another or similar. You could do that with a dozen nintendos though.

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