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I once saw IDS on the tube and told him he was a murderer with blood on his hands. I’ve honestly never seen someone not react to something so well. I was right next to him and said it loudly and he didn’t even flinch or glance in my direction. I was genuinely quite impressed. It must happen to him a lot.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:You should maybe have tried saying something to him that might have upset him to see if you could get a reaction. Hey now, I think you’ll find he went on GMB and did some crocodile tears about all the lives he’s ended and ruined so actually he does have a soul
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Jan 1, 2021 17:03
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Vitamin P posted:Looking back at particular things that caused people to stop giving a gently caress about isolating I reckon there's a big three; 2. was never excused by anyone with a brain as that. Most on the left and within the BLM movement agreed it wasn't ideal timing but ultimately social flashpoints often don't come at ideal moments - I cannot blame any black person for taking that risk to make the world a better place for themselves and every other black person, or anyone else for going along as an ally.
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Except they didn't do that at all. The protests didn't cause any uptick in COVID, as reported everywhere about 6 months ago. Sources: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...nt9Nyn_TSiCP_CD https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...5ouQBU7NEtBHHwk
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Jan 2, 2021 01:37
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Literally everyone was wearing masks too
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Jan 2, 2021 01:43
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What infuriates me most about Labour is that they are only even bothering to talk about binary decisions that fit well within the scope of decision making of the Tories anyway. Not once have I heard the argument that we need massive, UBI like public support and spending. Not once have I heard any of them advocating for the sort of radical solutions implemented elsewhere in the world - massive spending to enable people to lock down safely and with minimal impact. Schools need to be closed? Make sure kids can get the materials they need to keep learning, whatever the cost. You can guarantee Corbyn’s Labour would have advocated for these sorts of radical socialist solutions which, even had they not happened, would have entered the public discourse as options. But no, Manager Keith is happy to gently caress about on the sidelines suggesting minor changes and being Sensible.
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Jan 2, 2021 13:47
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Boris on tv insisting that schools are safe boiled my piss. How can you say that with a straight face??? E: you should keep posting crazyvanman! I don’t think I’d be the only one very interested in the takes of a teacher in your position right now.
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Jan 2, 2021 14:11
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ronya posted:realistically a leftier Labour would be making much the same calls to extend the job retention scheme and tweak its coverage, albeit it would wrap it in a rhetoric hinting that such a programme should be kept forever and should be incrementally used to roll back capitalism even after the crisis. Something something Kurzarbeit (for the soft lefties), something something UBI (for the activists)... knowing fully well that LAB doesn't actually have the votes to make those promises a reality and is if anything alienating what Tory rebels it would need to really threaten the government I don’t see any evidence to back up anything you’ve said here to be honest. I don’t agree that Labour would be doing largely the same thing in different rhetorical wrapping paper at all - Corbyn and his front bench genuinely seemed to want lefty policies and right now is objectively the right time to be implementing them because all of the ‘just get a better job’ voices are effectively neutered. Your point about the anti-lockdown lot also doesn’t ring true - a lot of these people are right wing nuts but there is some truth to the idea that lockdowns have really hurt people economically and mentally. They undeniably have. Providing proper support during lockdowns is the answer to that though, so why you’re saying that would lose people compared to the current strategy I have no idea. As for Corbyn hypothetically whipping to keep schools open, this just seems like a totally out of the blue non-sequitur at odds with everything we know about Corbyn and his front bench.
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Jan 2, 2021 15:11
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Is there any reason to dislike Paul Brand? He seems like a solid source of good information without any obvious bias (obviously there’s no such thing as no bias at all but you know what I mean).
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Jan 2, 2021 15:24
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Shame about Brand, he’s been good during the past few months. That VAT thing is genuinely incredible. I wonder how this’ll affect small businesses and sole traders who primarily sell through Amazon.
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Jan 2, 2021 16:04
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I’d love a news person to just point out that scientific advice doesn’t tell you what to do - it gives you some facts and some estimates and some predictions with x% certainty and you use them to balance out other factors and make a decision. The fact this is so poorly understood, and literally never, ever talked about or acknowledged also boils my piss. I’ve told you a lot of things boil my piss today I do realise. It makes me wonder if they’re all just not saying that for political reasons or there genuinely is nobody in the political and media sphere world who understands how policy and science interact, even the very basics of that dynamic.
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Jan 2, 2021 20:44
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ronya posted:if anything, over the past year mainstream press have been far more indulgent of attacks on the normally-widely-accepted authority of public health experts to plan public health based on traditional metrics (aggregate QALYs etc), both from the right and the left - this even leading to observable impacts in the way SAGE is issuing advice within weeks This isn’t about attacking public health experts. It’s about the completely false framing of scientific advice being the whole picture. It never has been at this level, never will be, and literally cannot be. Sure, they can advise on how to do certain things - for example, I imagine SAGE can give a pretty decent plan of how to save the most lives, but that inevitably has to be balanced against a number of other factors including whether that plan can even be carried out with current resources. A government can’t just ‘follow scientific advice’ because scientific advice is one tool that can give certain information, which then need to be synthesised with all of the other scientific advice (and yes there is balancing to be done there), as well as other factors. To anyone who knows anything about science, policy making, public health or crisis management, this is lesson 1. Follow the scientific advice is not something that you can do because it intrinsically does not make sense in the real world as a statement.
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Jan 2, 2021 21:11
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Kind of just a meme I think. Rumours of resignation are an excellent form of pressure
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Jan 3, 2021 13:35
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I don’t think Boaty McBoatface is that funny (reminds me of people who think googly eyes are the height of comedy), but I do genuinely think the one thing British people excel at is being quite funny. We’ve produced a lot of great comedy. Even my most Brit-hating mates from elsewhere seem to at least agree on that. Or maybe I’m just really funny and I’m dragging the average up for people who know me
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Jan 3, 2021 14:00
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Failed Imagineer posted:This is the only show that's given me a stomach ache from laughing in a decade or more. Probably not for everyone but it's just so idiotic it's incredible Thirding this. A really underappreciated gem. Me and my partner still shout PAUL BUFANO ITS PAUL BUFANO each other semi-regularly
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Failed Imagineer posted:The guy with the freak lips? He can hit the High C all night long? Regular guest on the Colgate Comedy Hour?!
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Jan 3, 2021 15:29
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c0burn posted:Is it? Yes, read back a few pages.
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Jan 3, 2021 18:04
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We have things like Alan Partridge, Brass Eye, Dark Place, Peep Show, The Thick Of It, The Office, and all the various other shows from that very rough area which are all absolutely great. I think it’s important to distinguish between funny in the sense of producing good professional comedy and comedic media, and funny in the sense of the people being funny though. Also anyone who thinks we should replace professional comedians with shitposting has clearly never been to see live stand up.
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OwlFancier posted:But it's not funny though, you're just watching some prat be a prat and everyone else just knows they're a prat and the camera points at them for too long and at some point this elicits laughter in some people. There is no emotion, you are watching a thing that is not funny, or interesting, it is just there. There is no catharsis or tension like in a horror movie, you might as well watch footage of people walking down the street. It’s not just watching someone be a prat though - characters like Brent and Partridge are caricatures of the those types of men and I’d bet most people can see reflections of others in them. And to say there’s no emotion to The Office is absolutely one of the most incorrect takes I’ve ever heard about media. You might not like them but there’s clearly a reason they’re some of the best considered TV of the last few decades. E: also Brent is absolutely a protagonist you’re meant to feel a ton of empathy for. The Office’s big problem is how it treats blue collar workers. Jakabite fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Jan 3, 2021 |
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happyhippy posted:Just after The Office got big, the BBC did a real documentary about a real life Brent called The Armstrongs. Brilliant, thanks for this! I know what I’m watching tonight!
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Jan 3, 2021 20:49
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Induction is technically great and a doddle to cook with but it just isn’t as much fun as gas. I don’t feel at all like Gordon Ramsay when I use induction.
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Jan 4, 2021 14:54
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Jose posted:Get a blowtorch for your kitchen This, along with cooking with vastly more butter than I really need, will have to compensate. My previously apolitical family are starting to get very mad with the government. Just absolute bafflement to the point my stepmum feels like she just doesn’t get it and must be missing something. I keep telling her she isn’t, they’re just stupid selfish lazy arseholes. Any time Starmer is brought up we all just laugh.
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TheRat posted:I gotta say, I didn't expect this to be the thread where wanting to preserve nature in the face of limitless global growth would be met with harsh hostility What’s your alternative method of energy generation then?
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OwlFancier posted:They built a wind farm off of redcar and you can see it from miles up and down the coast, and inland too if you're coming down the hills, it's gorgeous to look at, all the turbines spinning in the sea, dark against the sun from saltburn or bright in the blue coming down towards the town. Carpet the coast in the things for all I care it'll be great. Can confirm, pretty much everyone I know from round there (a lot of people) thinks they’re ace, as do I. It’s fun to see which ones are on when you drive to Redcar, and they’re an interesting thing to point out when people visit.
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Can you do it in March when it's my birthday and also I start my bulk cycle please. I loving love Toblerone. If you've ever thought about doing ferrero rocher, well, I wouldn't say no to that either. Or kinder bueno. E: Basically anything that comes under the 'deluxe' category if you get a milkshake of it
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Camrath posted:The problem with Ferrero Rocher or other complicated sweets is that during the cooking they’d melt and break apart, losing all structural integrity. So you’d get little pieces of wafer, nuts etc in a chocolate fudge. Which would still be nice, but not totally sure how the texture would work out. Hell yeah, thanks! I basically just love nuts and chocolate together, I'm not actually fuzzy on the configuration. Looking forward to my first order! RE: Wind power and renewables. I'd like to see what evidence you're basing that off Vit P, or at least your reasoning. This (https://assets.publishing.service.g...y_in_the_UK.pdf) seems to suggest that with wind has grown from just a few percent of our generation in 2010 to 20% in 2019 - is it really so unfeasible to increase wind power capacity 3 or 4 fold in the next 20 or so years? Even rising at the same rates as a proportion of generation as it has the last ten years, we'd still be looking at around 54% being generated by wind by 2040. I find your assertion that even with a Total War level of infrastructure investment we couldn't move to renewables baseless, unless you can provide some pretty compelling evidence? E: Colourful milkshakes just do not appeal to me - I do not want to taste the rainbow when dairy is involved. Keep your hundreds of thousands ice cream too
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I think the point is that Greenwich is the one Williamson was threatening legal action against if they closed their schools. Feeling real despondent today thread. I just can’t imagine any possible route, at all, to things improving any more.
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Jose posted:take a break from this thread. seriously It really wouldn’t help. This thread is a fraction of where I get my political hit from, and one of the much better and more interesting ones. I’m doing plenty of other stuff too - working out, learning Spanish, but ultimately I just can’t see any way that society escapes from the downward spiral it’s in. If anyone can then please do say so. E: I meant generally. Even post-virus, where will we be?
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The only real issue with them FB maths problems that makes them actually confounding even to someone who really knows their maths is the ‘/‘ symbol. No one who needs to do maths that actually matters ever uses it (without brackets anyway, in the case of typing out your sums), because it’s the part which brings actual ambiguity. Is 2/3+1 two thirds add one, or 2 over 4? This is why it should be made a totally invalid way of writing a sum unless used with brackets, with the preference being a fractional form.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I've tried to stay out of this but that ambiguity would totally still be there even if you wrote it out as 2÷3+1, and unless you want Unicode to provide ⅔ but for every single combination of every single whole number (which might cause some storage problems) that ambiguity is always going to be there for people who don't know the order of precedence. Huh, not sure what you mean here. The ÷ symbol is functionally exactly the same as the / symbol. What I meant was either writing it as (2/3)+1 or 2/(3+1), or as the fractions below are written. That removes all ambiguity, unless you literally don't know how to evaluate those equations. E: Anyway, just finished reading Fisher's Capitalist Realism. A good read and pretty much describes where we're at pretty well, but his assertion at the end that it's now a prime time for new ways of living to be taken on board just seems very baselessly optimistic to me. Any small event can rip through the grey curtain for all of about five minutes, then is crushed, drops out of the news cycle and is forgotten forever. Jakabite fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jan 6, 2021 |
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People should drink their coffee however they like or not drink it at all, who cares. But imo you don't get anywhere near the same effect if it's isn't black like tar.
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Over 1300 deaths in the last 24 hours.
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Olpainless posted:My grandmother's been took to hospital with COVID and isn't expected to survive. My niece has also told me she and her partner have lost their sense of taste and smell yesterday. gently caress. gently caress gently caress gently caress. Sorry to hear this  I hope you have people around you to lean on. If not my DMs are open.
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*sticks up middle finger* Up yours, JERKWAD!!!
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Watched The Social Dilemma last night. Very centrist in its equivocation of left and right polarisation, and totally ignores other factors in that polarisation, but I found it really interesting. I think social media may indeed be a huge foundation of the rot of society and would quite like to focus on doing something about it.
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You know what is endlessmonotony? The last 3 pages of this thread. E: ^^^^^ yes there is
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It's the sort of joke that you shouldn't exactly be pilloried for, but if a Welsh person says 'hey that's not very nice, we get that poo poo a lot', probably just say 'yeah, sorry, no bother'? I feel it's one of them funny observations that you should maybe only make around an audience that doesn't catch that poo poo all the time. Like I'd happily say to one of my closest mates, who's Welsh, 'hey have you heard of this Guto Bebb fella? Do you all sound like Mos Eisly Cantina residents?', because he's one of my best mates and he'd find that funny and knows I don't hate Welsh people or something. Would I make that joke to any other Welsh person, or even in a group of people I don't know very well? No. Would I bring it up randomly out of context at all? Probably not actually because it isn't even that funny unless Guto Bebb has come up in conversation previously. Anyway, The Social Dilemma. Who's seen it? What did we think?
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Barry Foster posted:I think we're all hosed I agree. I actually think it might be impossible to subvert or get rid of capitalism until social media has been almost destroyed. And I'm not sure that will ever happen, and even if it did we'd still be a long way off. The doco did sort of make SM the bogeyman when there are a lot of other issues at play but how we get our info and interact with each other is clearly a pretty big factor here. It made me immediately delete my newly made Twitter account anyway.
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Yeah TSD definitely is quite lib in that it perhaps overstates how much of an effect social media has had, but then again it is a documentary about social media, not on why the world is hosed, and it does a pretty good job of introducing some concepts to help explain how social media has contributed to that in a really big way. It’s got me motivated to do more reading into it anyway. I have a young sister who’s getting to that age and I’d like to be able to play some part in protecting her from the worst of it. The general concept of truth is something I’d like to read and talk more about too. It seems to be becoming more and more subjective - post-modernism might accidentally have been more true now than it could have known. Truth has always been subjective but I don’t think the obliteration of objective reality is a good thing at all.
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OwlFancier posted:The way I look at it is that there never was an objective reality, only a more hegemonic subjectivity. I don't think rejecting the idea of objective reality is actually that helpful or true - sure it's important to talk about how reality is obviously different for everyone, a la post-modern thought, but there is an objective reality - or at least one so close as to be objective, and to call it elsewise is helpful only to those who want to spread false narratives. For examples, the objective truth is that Joe Biden legitimately won the US election. Now if we wanted to we could say no, actually, that is not an objective truth because (insert philosophy essay here). However, it's about as close to an objective reality in the political sphere as you get it - it is,for all intents and purposes, true. The point made in the doco is that truths like that are being subsumed by the idea of subjective reality because social media algorithms, and the echo chambers that happen online, (and a lot of other factors it doesn't mention), are creating subjective realities for people that differ so strongly from the objective reality that it's created enormous societal schisms - the kind that end up with a bunch of brainwashed fascists storming the White House because Hilary is baking children into pizzas then sucking their adrenaline or something. To us that's absolutely mental, and it is absolutely mental because it absolutely isn't the truth - but literally tens of millions of people now, because of the internet, believe that to be their reality. And so does everyone around them. I absolutely believe in democratised communication and being able to link up with each other, but I can't think of any mainstream, widely used platforms where that's possible. Messaging apps are the obvious exception but even then massive groupthink starts happening. Things like Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube - all of the places where the majority of the industrialised world gets its current affairs information and analysis from now, are the opposite of democratic communication. Or if not the opposite, something very different. I'm not saying the internet is bad - far from it. But in its current form, and in the way the majority of people interact with it currently, I do think it's doing a HELL of a lot more harm than good. And that's not to mention the micro-issues that become macro through accumulation, like the affect on the average attenion span, phone addiction, how it affects self-image, etc.
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