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Kalli posted:Also FO finished DVOA for 1983, which is only important in that it finally gives us Marino's rookie season and to no surprise: DVOA is stupid
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Amy Pole Her posted:It is but Marino's rookie season was the best we've ever seen. Herbert was solid and all but it was a different era and Marino still dominated. Oh agreed. DVOA just sucks in general
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Who's the least deserving (player) inductee of the last twenty years? Terrell Davis
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how many teams wouldn't trade for Watson if he was available? 4?
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really queer Christmas posted:^^ bills and ravens i forgot, so 6 maybe Green Bay would absolutely trade for Watson just because Rodgers is ancient.
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GD_American posted:Name the last franchise QB that didn't re-sign with his team before his rookie contract expired. Kirk Cousins is the only one I could think of. Cutler
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Grittybeard posted:Drew Brees probably turned out the best if you want to go back that far? Yeah, he was playing on the tag in 2005 when he got hurt.
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GD_American posted:Yeah Brees is probably the purest example of what I was getting at- a QB that let his rookie deal run out, the team wanted to re-sign him and make an offer, and he walked. Cutler is close, though he demanded a trade and got out before his deal expired. Without the catastrophic shoulder injury, Brees doesn't leave San Diego. It isn't like he wanted to leave
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Silly Burrito posted:Dude they had already drafted Rivers by then. Because Brees was flat out bad in 2003. He had a great 2004 and played well in 2005. Without the injury, the Chargers don't offer him a long term contract laden with incentives. They sign him to a long term deal and flip Rivers who hadn't started a game yet
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It cannot be understated how much that shoulder injury changed things.
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Cavauro posted:probably the thing i remember most in my life as an NFL fanatic is when drew brees went out hurt and big phil rivers came in and all the fans were cheering louder than they ever had before. They had been begging for D.B. to get hosed and never have a job again after a pathetic loss at the famous "The Chiefs In-Door Dome" that famously has a big roof on it. I was at that game and no one cheered you are a liar sir
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Sad Keenan didn't get a vote
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GD_American posted:On paper he turned down $50 million from the Chargers to take $60 million from the Saints. The truth is that the Chargers deal was barely any guaranteed money or salary; it was hugely incentivized. They hedged on him so hard he had to leave. Yes because his shoulder was destroyed. If that injury doesn't happen, the contract isn't super incentivized. Brees wanted to stay.
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GD_American posted:Eh, I'm not throwing smoke at the Chargers. The Dolphins lost out on him for the same reason. The Saints gambled and won. Oh absolutely.
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Jan 8, 2021 21:44
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FizFashizzle posted:The Panthers team doctor was consulted and told them this They were right at the time. People really understate how gruesome that injury was
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https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/status/1347766849845522433?s=19 :3
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chamois posted:i'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the chargers are going to keep being bad for a long time Maybe. Bad teams can have good players though, so I will continue to root for them if thats okay with you.
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https://twitter.com/kurt13warner/status/1348386784187621377 This is cool
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