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DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


kalensc posted:

The schedule is fully updated for all weeks through Week 18, which ends on February 25th.

All match-ups are identical in Weeks 17 & 18 because we'll be adding the weekly scores together. This allows us to stitch an 8-day week together around the All-Star Game break which lasts from the Week 17 Friday through the Week 18 Wednesday.

pre:
Team Abbr.  Gen. Mngr.   W-L    H2H   VsMed  L5Wks  Close  Luck?
----------  ----------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----
TalesCrypt  Chronicles  18-06  10-02  08-04  07-03  05-01  02-00 
Arm Swap    Rick        17-07  08-04  09-03  07-03  00-01  01-02
EricCart2k  Dutchy      16-08  07-05  09-03  07-03  02-01  00-02
Советские   kalensc     16-08  08-04  08-04  10-00  02-00  01-01
------------------(^^Direct Playoff Berth^^)--------------------
8pts9sec    ScooterMcT  13-11  07-05  06-06  03-07  02-00  01-00
ThreeAlpha  erez        12-12  05-07  07-05  05-05  01-04  01-03
Ho!Jim Boy  BanaBrkFst  11-13  06-06  05-07  06-04  01-02  02-01
Don'tBlame  rivetz      11-13  05-07  06-06  06-04  01-02  01-02
------------------(^^PlayIn Qual: Win 1/2^^)--------------------
im the guy  Ghost Dog   10-14  06-06  04-08  05-05  02-02  03-01
Jesus H XO  RedRox      09-15  04-08  05-07  00-10  00-01  00-01
Eagle Doom  the9thlayr  06-18  04-08  02-10  02-08  00-00  00-02
WetAss Stu  TheMaestro  05-19  02-10  03-09  02-08  00-02  01-02
------------------(^^PlayIn Qual: Win 2/2^^)--------------------
(Apologies if you're viewing the table on a mobile device, but hey, I created it on my phone so :pseudo:)

What’s your luck? column?

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Dutchy
Jul 8, 2010
I think it's basically just teams that finished in the top half but still lost their matchup get credited with an unlucky loss, and teams that finished in the bottom half but still won get credited with a lucky win.

(More specifically I think the site assigns a win expectancy to a given scoring rank and if you out/underperform by a certain amount, it's a lucky/unlucky result. So like when I lost in 4th place a couple weeks ago, it took my expected win probability from being in 4th (73%) versus my actual win probability in a loss (0%) and gave me -73 luck. In practice for a league our size that just means top half losers and bottom half winners.)

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby
Yeah, p much what ^^^ wrote

The desktop website lists them on each team's "Schedule" page. It's essentially "Won with Score Below Median" - "Lost with Score Above Median".

Obv it stings far worse to lose with 2nd best score of the week, which is reflected in the +/- value next to each game result.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
We still callin'
Everyday to you
We still believe in you
We still pray to you

Ben Simmons come back to my fantasy teams

Chronicles
Oct 24, 2013

kalensc posted:

pre:
Team Abbr.  Gen. Mngr.   W-L    H2H   VsMed  L5Wks  Close  Luck?
----------  ----------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----
TalesCrypt  Chronicles  18-06  10-02  08-04  07-03  05-01  02-00 
Arm Swap    Rick        17-07  08-04  09-03  07-03  00-01  01-02
EricCart2k  Dutchy      16-08  07-05  09-03  07-03  02-01  00-02
Советские   kalensc     16-08  08-04  08-04  10-00  02-00  01-01
------------------(^^Direct Playoff Berth^^)--------------------
8pts9sec    ScooterMcT  13-11  07-05  06-06  03-07  02-00  01-00
ThreeAlpha  erez        12-12  05-07  07-05  05-05  01-04  01-03
Ho!Jim Boy  BanaBrkFst  11-13  06-06  05-07  06-04  01-02  02-01
Don'tBlame  rivetz      11-13  05-07  06-06  06-04  01-02  01-02
------------------(^^PlayIn Qual: Win 1/2^^)--------------------
im the guy  Ghost Dog   10-14  06-06  04-08  05-05  02-02  03-01
Jesus H XO  RedRox      09-15  04-08  05-07  00-10  00-01  00-01
Eagle Doom  the9thlayr  06-18  04-08  02-10  02-08  00-00  00-02
WetAss Stu  TheMaestro  05-19  02-10  03-09  02-08  00-02  01-02
------------------(^^PlayIn Qual: Win 2/2^^)--------------------


Some people just have the clutch gene :shrug:

Also, wow at that win streak kalensc

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

Chronicles posted:

Some people just have the clutch gene :shrug:

Also, wow at that win streak kalensc

:shobon:thanks

Things started to click when December started. Prior to that, injuries and substandard performances had my squad languishing in the cellar.



Obv I've jinxed myself terribly going forward, this roster will wilt as soon as winter concludes.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby
Ugh, this is truly awful news, he was in his mid-40s. Some pre-game coverage two seasons or so ago mentioned that he'd coached Jokic during the early 10s in Serbia.

quote:

The Golden State Assistant Head Coach Dejan Milojević suffered a heart attack last night at a team dinner, and sadly passed away earlier today.

RIP Dejan Milojević






what i'm writing down here is so obviously unimportant in comparison to the real world tragedy

i'll manually edit lineups to sit UTA & GSW players because the app has not yet reflected the postponement of the game

The Maestro
Feb 21, 2006
Well I gotta just eat leaving Ant Edwards on the IR today. I was out running errands and cleaning up all day, knowing I had to be at work at 4pm. Plenty of time to check the fantasy as I had lunch before work. Fuckin forgot. At least it’s only 60 and I’m probably going to lose this week anyways. Rough on the psyche to leave a Donovan Mitchell 110 on the bench and lose by 50 last week lol

Just checked, only losing by 50ish rn. Whoops

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


The Maestro posted:

Well I gotta just eat leaving Ant Edwards on the IR today. I was out running errands and cleaning up all day, knowing I had to be at work at 4pm. Plenty of time to check the fantasy as I had lunch before work. Fuckin forgot. At least it’s only 60 and I’m probably going to lose this week anyways. Rough on the psyche to leave a Donovan Mitchell 110 on the bench and lose by 50 last week lol

Just checked, only losing by 50ish rn. Whoops

i did the same thing with jalen brunson, i had read he was questionable then didn't have time to check back in closer to the game. alas

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat

kalensc posted:

Since you had 12 available starters, I left the 8 already in alone, and filled the 2 empty slots by just picking the two with the highest season average. Seemed like the fairest way to select 2 of the 4 candidates.
Thank you for doing this

Dutchy posted:

I think it's basically just teams that finished in the top half but still lost their matchup get credited with an unlucky loss, and teams that finished in the bottom half but still won get credited with a lucky win.

(More specifically I think the site assigns a win expectancy to a given scoring rank and if you out/underperform by a certain amount, it's a lucky/unlucky result. So like when I lost in 4th place a couple weeks ago, it took my expected win probability from being in 4th (73%) versus my actual win probability in a loss (0%) and gave me -73 luck. In practice for a league our size that just means top half losers and bottom half winners.)
I think it also factors in points left on the bench, whether you just left a guy sitting there by mistake or just played the wrong guy/matchup.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

rivetz posted:

Thank you for doing this

I think it also factors in points left on the bench, whether you just left a guy sitting there by mistake or just played the wrong guy/matchup.

No prob!

Also, the Luck score for an individual game is purely:

If you won: 9.09 * (Rank That Week - 1)

If you lost: 100 - 9.09 * (Rank That Week - 1)

The 9.09 is simply 100/11, because it's a 12-team league, thus if you want a linear scale going from 0 to 100 you'll need 11 equivalent intervals. This is easier to see in table form:

pre:
Week  Win.  Loss
Rank  Luck  Luck
----  ----  ----
 1st   +00  #N/A
 2nd   +09   -91
 3rd   +18   -82
 4th   +27   -73
 5th   +36   -64
 6th   +45   -55
 7th   +55   -45
 8th   +64   -36
 9th   +73   -27
10th   +82   -18
11th   +91   -09
12th  #N/A   -00

The principle behind the Luck score would be the following:

Imagine if our league didn't reveal your opponent until after the week concluded, but you still saw everyone's scores just as you can now. You'd set your line-up as optimally as possible, and try to out-perform as many teams as possible, then cross your fingers when the pre-determined pairings were revealed.

If the week concluded and you were 3rd overall in Fantasy Points, you'd have 9 desirable opponents, and 2 undesirable. 9/11 = 82%~ and 2/11 = 18%~.

If the odds hold up then you were very slightly lucky, you succeeded (statistical success, independent of what you did) given 82%~ odds, so Luck = +18.

If the odds failed you then you were incredibly unlucky, you failed (statistical failure, not due to your choices) when given 82%~, so Luck = -82.


Man, I miss my uni days, in the happier decades.

kalensc fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jan 21, 2024

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat
lol how the gently caress did you figure that out? Is it documented somewhere on the site or did you crunch the numbers yourself?

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

rivetz posted:

lol how the gently caress did you figure that out? Is it documented somewhere on the site or did you crunch the numbers yourself?

Just looked at the numbers and noticed the pattern :shobon: I'm a mathematician that geeks out over variant sudokus and numberphile videos so, y'know

sadly, being good at figuring things out is a very useful skill but it's hard to get across on a cv lol

lmao, rivetz what's the new av from

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat

kalensc posted:

lmao, rivetz what's the new av from
Pools are perfect for holding water

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

lol drat, i know I've seen that movie, but i also know that i was way too high to recall any of it

Wild looking back at some of Hader's stuff after seeing Barry

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Forgot to save my roster (I assume) and left 3 dudes on the bench goddamnit

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

DeimosRising posted:

Forgot to save my roster (I assume) and left 3 dudes on the bench goddamnit

I mostly fixed it (couldn’t get Conley in without cutting someone) but be sure to check the next day because when GMs set the lineups it sometimes resets the roster.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Rick posted:

I mostly fixed it (couldn’t get Conley in without cutting someone) but be sure to check the next day because when GMs set the lineups it sometimes resets the roster.

yeah i may have hosed it up moving him to IR (it's fine you left him, i thought he was sitting anyway) or I may have gotten distracted while i was setting it and forgot to save, thanks :)

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

DeimosRising posted:

yeah i may have hosed it up moving him to IR (it's fine you left him, i thought he was sitting anyway) or I may have gotten distracted while i was setting it and forgot to save, thanks :)

I wonder if there's a correlation between using the browser site and having line-up issues. The app doesn't require any Saving of line-up adjustments, and personally I never use the browser for anything except commish stuff (scheduling, editing starting line-ups) and more robust searches of FAs.

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat
9 am tipoffs can eat a dick

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

rivetz posted:

9 am tipoffs can eat a dick

Cancel the penectomy via mastication, your roster (and BananaB's and RedRox's) have been set.

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat
Thanks once again, humbling to have to rely on the assist twice in a week

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


rivetz posted:

9 am tipoffs can eat a dick

yeah lol i had no idea

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat
:argh: on the Paul Reed pickup Chronicles, feel like he could go off tonight

Chronicles
Oct 24, 2013

He went off the other day so lord knows I'm probably too late

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby
Deimos gonna derail my push for 1st overall :smith:

Guess it's appropriate for the GM with the 2nd-longest win streak to upend the current longest streak.

The current top-7 in the standings are still in contention to finish top-4 when we enter the cross-overs / play-ins.

Every team has a path to end up in the mid-4.

Teams ranked 5 thru 12 can end up in the bot-4.

Please recall that the cross-overs/ play-ins is essentially an 8-team 2-week tourney where the mid-4 teams are in a "double elimination" status and the bot-4 teams are in a "single elimination" status, re: qualifying for the final 8-team playoff bracket.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


I don’t know what happened, my team was bad and then it just wasn’t anymore

Chronicles
Oct 24, 2013

Hmm. I may have overbid on Reed

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat
This is the most fun and cool team I've had in Lothlorien. It doesn't hurt that everyone's stayed pretty healthy, but this is the first time I've felt like there's a legitimate shot at the title. SGA's been a stud and unbelievably consistent all year but the depth has made the difference, currently nine players averaging 45+. Tremble y'all

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


rivetz posted:

This is the most fun and cool team I've had in Lothlorien. It doesn't hurt that everyone's stayed pretty healthy, but this is the first time I've felt like there's a legitimate shot at the title. SGA's been a stud and unbelievably consistent all year but the depth has made the difference, currently nine players averaging 45+. Tremble y'all

I have 10 over 40 (but only 6 over 45)

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat

DeimosRising posted:

I have 10 over 40 (but only 6 over 45)
wait a sec I just realized we all have like 15 over 20? poo poo's gonna be close

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

I'm having fun too. The daily alarm tip has definitely helped me a ton. It's too late for me to contend this year but 2025, look out 🔥🔥🔥

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


kalensc posted:

Deimos gonna derail my push for 1st overall :smith:

Guess it's appropriate for the GM with the 2nd-longest win streak to upend the current longest streak.

Unbelievably close, 2,262.39 to 2,241.34. I got absolutely whacked by injuries, 5 guys out tonight

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
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DeimosRising posted:

Unbelievably close, 2,262.39 to 2,241.34. I got absolutely whacked by injuries, 5 guys out tonight

Nice win! We both had injury issues I think. Pretty much every good player but Giannis sat 1+ games this week. A bummer the comeback fell short, but I'll just assume my luck will be stored up should we meet in the elimination rounds!

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


how the gently caress are the eagle doom dunkers so far down the standings when they have 4 guys averaging 60+

Anyway I didn't set my roster monday so I'm going to pre-emptively blame my loss on those 80 points. Doesn't count. do over.

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

DeimosRising posted:

how the gently caress are the eagle doom dunkers so far down the standings when they have 4 guys averaging 60+

Anyway I didn't set my roster monday so I'm going to pre-emptively blame my loss on those 80 points. Doesn't count. do over.

I'm lazy and keep forgetting to unbench my guys. Also the app doesn't save my lineups when I set them I think. Also uhh I can't think of a third excuse.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Can you throw Wiggins in for me? I wasn’t able to get to a screen after waivers processed

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
Done! Although a bit late sorry the thread was second paged. But I think it still counts.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

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This is the most MacGyver'ed roster I've ever had in this league, lmao.

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Chronicles
Oct 24, 2013

nvm

Chronicles fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Feb 11, 2024

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