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Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Dawgstar posted:

I believe Mike was on the west coast, at least at the time, which probably helped although Adam Warren who did the US Dirty Pair comics was getting that kinda stuff in the mid-80's while going to school at Joe Kubert's art academy which is in New Jersey somewhere so some people had a really good pipeline.
NY/NJ have significant Japanese communities - sometimes all it takes is one well-stocked video store.

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Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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I had a whole brainwave for a convention module/one shot to develop revolving around the idea of runners having to go do some poo poo at the cyberpunk equivalent of a monster con, like Gencon or Otakon or something.

This seems to tonally suit 2020 better from what little I know, but is RED's ruleset a superior version of what 2020 is going for? I'm figuring if this is meant to be a con game, I'm going to want to make things as pick-up-and-go as possible.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Tight, I'll pick it up. Does it have adventure design guidance? My big hitch there is that it occurred to me that such a space would present a very different threat surface to runner types: instead of being corpo poo poo and implicitly being advanced stuff run by punch clock workers, it would be potentially rickety poo poo run by passionate volunteers. You'd also have the small risk of Adam Smasher having shown up to pick up a convention exclusive Pretty Cure figure, but these problems seem to come down to a possible literal random encounter table for the ill-fortuned.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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So focused on fixing registration he missed the AV/BD back doors. Or could miss new ones.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Or it’s con center infrastructure and their runners are not top of the game. Or they are good but volunteers and Pavill isn’t going to miss the Us Cracks concert.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Now that I am at home with this idea, I have wishlisted RED in case there is a sale before I get my next pay sorted out. :v:

I've been reading some of the CP2020 lore and it seems like the whole big idea of that setting is that America and perhaps Night City in specific have gone to complete poo poo, but the situation is a lot better in much of the rest of the world, in so far as you can say it's "better" with huge environmental degradation and so forth. Is that accurate? Like I got the vibe reading through a lot of it that Europe/Japan/maybe the USSR are actually decent places to live, and perhaps so is the Moon... but then they all apparently have levels of free-fire zone intensity that seems comical even by comparison to our own gun-happy situation in 2023 in reality.

I'm basing this largely from things I picked up in passing from people in the CP2077 game which I am working through; Haiti has apparently gotten so bad there was a mass exodus, but a ripperdoc from somewhere in Eastern Europe is like "lol it's hilarious ripperdoc service is free where I'm from." (I assume you would still have to pay for non-medical chrome.)

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Defenestrategy posted:

Even though Red hasnt released much detail of the world outside of night city I infer its pretty much the same for everyone. The internets fragmented to poo poo, places are still rebuilding from the military left overs of the 4th corpo war, so I can only assume until sometime between 2040 and 2077 the world isnt significantly different in state.

Its your campaign though, if you wanna say that *squints at map* mongolia somehow has remained fairly untouched and has been built into an asian tiger economy go for it. Nothing contradicts it afaik.

Edit: personally Ive just been playing with 2020 lore with red rules due to basically the lack of any sort of setting supplement outside of core rules being released, and even then its pretty light on that. Im thinking that the current set of rules is just a hold over til 2077 supplement is released and theyll go all in on that setting possibly.
Yeah my impression with RED's setting was that it was a lot grunchier, like it was trying to distinguish itself from Shadowrun by being a lot nearer to "actually it has all fallen apart, the falling-apart is just recent enough that technology and poo poo hasn't actually run out yet."

The aftermath of all of that does make it make more sense why, despite being a techno-hellscape, there didn't seem to be a major technological shift between '20 and '77. Any process improvements or whatever were probably more about getting back to the level of corpsploitation they were at.

This is mostly flavoring for the sake of the con module concept, but I'm also hoping I can turn some friends on to the setting and possibly do a campaign or at least something episodic in the setting instead of yet more goddamn D&D.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Cyberpunk RED is $20 USD on DTRPG thanks to "Game Master Day" and will apparently be so through the 14th. Eurodollar price as yet undefined.

I was pleasantly surprised at the level of goodies involved with the package including a fillable character sheet, but I suppose if any RPG is going to have proper digital tools to at least some extent, it will be this one

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Anybody use the Cyberpunk RED game app?

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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The price point seemed minor for the GM tools, at least. It’s good for core sheets? How is the web version?

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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I think any LP that isn't explicitly "the publisher of the game runs a curated session with employees/allies/retainers to demonstrate the rules and maybe a sample module" is gonna be going long to see if they can be the next Critical Role. Hard to blame 'em too much.

Do they have any ETAs on the 2077 expansion/worldbook stuff? I think that is going to have more pickup. That or the Baldur's Gate 3 total conversion.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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TulliusCicero posted:

Can anyone give me advice for how to role-play as a Fixer PC?

Coming from a D&D/ Paizo background Fixers are intriguing to me as to their role in the party in Cyberpunk: am I effectively acting as my chooms manager and agent, hiring them out to others who need services rendered? I'm assuming I'm kind of the face of the party to other orgs or gangs: do I have my own slice of territory in the city, or do I play it as a wannabe up and comer? Am I supposed to go on the gigs with them? I know I am supposed to be the one figuring out how to supply and what not.

I really like how Cyberpunk has more options as a game for roles besides "this is how you hit things", reminds me of Call of Cthulu, just wrapping my head around my potential position/ role.
I think most fixers have home turf where they're 'strongest' but would probably know people all over, if perhaps as friend-of-a-friend. Your Operator rank probably gives you a good guideline, although your flavor may vary a lot.

The fixer would probably participate in portions of the gig which are closer to set up - for instance you might bring the solo and the nomad with you when you go to meet your horrible gangster buddy to get illegal Somali counter-ICE. You'd probably HOPE to stay home during the big risk of the operation but gee there just might be a reason to be around anyway. You might also take a more 'mastermind' kind of tack where you're coordinating and doing a lot of operational tasks while people who are specialists get their chance to go hard.

Well Played Mauer posted:

Think Hannibal from the A-Team as one archetype that fits pretty well in the setting.
Yeah, this is wise. I was also thinking of Nate or Sophie from Leverage, although in Leverage Hardison also does a lot of the prep work.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Make sure to promise the other players that you're all going to be on the high road to easy street with this job. That's traditional.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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You should do every drugs you can, choomba.

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Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Greetings "chooms"

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For as little as $18 you can have what seems to be just about every CP2020 and RED book worth having!

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