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McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
There were also Banshees back at the start of the level in test copies.

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McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

Lemniscate Blue posted:

Somebody beat me to it, but with more detail:

Before clocks, the two directions for rotation were "deasil" (from the same root that Latin "dexter" comes from, meaning "right" the direction or hand) and "widdershins" (from an older Germanic word meaning "opposite direction").

Clocks made things a lot easier but you still see "widdershins" used in the countryside by older folks in places.

Well, that finally explains Withershins from Elder Scrolls to me.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
The novel reveals there's a minor Prophet aboard the ship.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

BlazetheInferno posted:

This is true - remember, the "Canon" Sergeant Johnson went with Keyes on his mission to where we first meet The Flood. We meet more marines, complete with a Johnson-model/voice Sergeant *after* we know that mission was launched, in Assault on the Control Room. Though I can't remember if that one's set to be Johnson, or if it's one of the couple of instances where the Sergeant's identity is randomized between Johnson and Stacker. I think it's set to Johnson.

Fact is, we meet more than two marine Sergeants over the course of the game, but there are only two Marine Sergeant 'characters' in the game, just like there are a set number of Marine 'personalities'. Mendoza, Bisenti, Jenkins, Chips Dubbo... I swear to god I remember there being more than 4 non-sergeant marine voices, but I can only remember the four.

You can even get a Johnson at the end of 343 Guilty Spark.

There are definitely more Marine but I don't think they're ever like, addressed outside of voice actor credits? Maybe?

And Johnson's survival is gonna be nice and sane compared to someone else's...

EDIT: And before I forget, in addition to using the Autumn to blow up the ring, the off-camera Marines raided the ship for supplies in the book too, so that's another good reason to land it.

McTimmy fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Mar 28, 2021

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

FrenzyTheKillbot posted:

So at this point, there's only 3 books. The Fall of Reach, which is a prequel to Halo 1, mostly covers the Master Chief's backstory, but also some of the human history and background of the Human-Covenant war. I do plan on covering some of this in a bonus video, but it'd be worth a read if you have time. It's a surprisingly good sci-fi book. It's also available as an animated movie/visual novel which is I think available on Netflix. The second book is The Flood, which is almost entirely a novelization of Halo 1, but with a bunch of extra detail of what the Covenant and other humans on the ring were up to. I don't really have much to say about that one. The third book is called First Strike, and it covers the gap between Halo 1 and Halo 2. I'll be posting a video next week that covers pretty much that entire book, so you'll get the important details from that.

Part of the problem is while it's not a lot now, the amount of non-game Halo content will start to explode. More and more books, whose connection to the main games' story are thin or convoluted. There's graphic novels/comics, a whole collection of Halo-themed anime shorts, some other live-action videos, and also the RTS, mobile, and arcade Halo games. As much as a Halo nerd as I make myself out to be, I haven't consumed it all, and I'm not familiar enough with some of it to know exactly how it all fits with main storyline (if at all). I am going to try and do bonus videos to cover particularly important details and tie-ins, but trying to cover all of it is basically like trying to write a book report on The Silmarillion.

Maybe I just didn't wait long enough but when I watched it around the time Halo 5 came out it just stopped short halfway through the story.

I read Fall of Reach, Flood and First Strike a ton so I could give a quick wordy summary if you want.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

FrenzyTheKillbot posted:

Planned obsolescence. Gotta keep Sanghelios Arms in business you know.


Oh weird, I watched it back when it came out too, but I didn't remember that it didn't even get to the part about Reach falling.

If you wanted to talk about stuff from The Flood that wasn't in the game, that'd be cool. I've read it a few times, but I never find it all that interesting compared to some of the others. But I'd rather you leave Fall of Reach and First Strike alone as I do plan on covering a lot of their content in my own bonus videos.

Here ya go!

The Flood

I'll be skipping most of the Master Chief does game levels because, well, you should know what happens. When something interesting happens I'll say it.

As Master Chief rampages through the Pillar of Autumn, he shoots the poo poo out of a Spec Ops Elite that's clearly not there in-game. And Jackals too. Anyway, a Grunt patrol happens upon the Spec Ops Elite and their leader, Yayap, decides rescuing him will keep his Grunts out of danger so takes the time to save him and survive.

Meanwhile a stealth Elite is tracking Captain Keyes. He sneaks into Keyes's escape pod, but Keyes spots his clever disguise and blows his brains out. And he just floats in the pod the entire way down.

And finally some ODSTs are having a party. Major Silva, head of all ODSTs despite being a Major, and Lieutenant Melissa McKay kill some Covenant and then drop pod down to Halo. Silva has the Pillar of Autumn's Second AI with him, Wellsley.

Keyes and his command staff and Marine escort go on the run, but one of them realizes that the Covenant aren't just glassing them because they somehow knows Keyes is important. Because of the Stealth Elite, you see. She tries to mutiny and gets hogtied and betrays them to the Covenant. The Covenant respond by executing everyone but Keyes. Traitor and all.

So, where those marines come from during the mission is anybody's guess.

Meanwhile Major Silva and McKay fend off a huge Covenant attack then take over a nearby Covenant base to use as their operating center.

Yayap the grunt is recruited by the Elite he rescued, Zuka 'Zamamee. Zamamee wants to go after Master Chief but gets told no by his commander and a Minor Prophet on board the Truth and Reconciliation.

Master Chief joins up with the rest of the crew, Silva berates him because he's a jackass and thinks ODSTs are better than Spartans. They launch the attack on Truth and Reconciliation and rescue Keyes. Keyes then berates Silva for acting like a jackass to the Chief but Silva lets drop that his men were once murdered to prove a point about the Spartans.

McKay around this time leads an attack on the Pillar of Autumn to scavenge for supplies.

Zamamee gets called in and is given the go-ahead to hunt Master Chief. The hunters outside the security room on Silent Cartographer are his doing, but they fail.

McKay and her convoy are ambushed by Covenant on their way back home but managed to push through, though with some loses.

Yayap infiltrates the human base by being taken prisoner.

Master Chief attacks the Control Room.

Zamamee launches an attack on the UNSC base, but despite sneaking Stealth Elites in using a Pelican and prisoner, they get repulsed even without the Chief's help. He frees Yayap and Yayap coerces him into leaving because they lost.

Master Chief goes into 343 Guilty Spark. He tries to help the crazy marine but can't do anything.

McKay sets up a counterattack ambush on the Covenant as revenge but the battle gets interrupted by the Flood showing up. The humans win, barely, and McKay takes a prisoner. Jenkins! Oh, and Jenkins is semi-lucid and suicidal because he's a flood hellbeast. Fun.

Master Chief fights through the Library. Halfway through, he finds a dead Sergeant surrounded by spent brass and so mulched the Flood couldn't even use his body anymore. Then Two Betrayals and Keyes. Captain Keyes has been fighting the Flood hivemind by slowly sacrificing his memories one-by-one until he can't even remember his own name. Then he gets punched.

The AIs chat and make a plan to take the Truth and Reconciliation. McKay leads a mission underground to seal up the Flood access points just long enough for the humans to evacuate.

Chief heads to Pillar of Autumn while Silva, McKay and the marines make their attack on Truth and Reconciliation. They successfully take the ship over and capture the Minor Prophet but Silva's a glory hound and wants to keep Flood samples on hand to research despite their still being active Flood on board. McKay and Jenkins realize how horrible this is and Jenkins suicidal trashing convinces McKay to blow up a vital conduit and destroy the ship. Great.

Zamamee and Yayap meanwhile have headed to the Pillar of Autumn because otherwise they'd have been executed for their failures. Zamamee takes a fake identity to do so and Yayap stops a Flood sneak attack. When they realize Master Chief is on board Zamamee makes his ambush. He's the Elite on the elevator before the Warthog run, though in the book he has a Shade. He dies.

Yayap then leaves to the outskirts because really staying was suicide. Then he dies anyway.

Yup, everyone but the Chief and Cortana are dead. Just like in-game.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

FrenzyTheKillbot posted:

Hey at least he got his own box. Most of the other human characters got rolled up into miscellaneous.


That's streamlined too. There's a bunch of time dilation nonsense, a callback to Fall of Reach plot arc, and a whole doomed romance between a Marine and a Navy pilot that I totally left out.

Also, one of my favourite things about First Strike is that it's also used as marketing material for new content in Halo 2. There's a part where the Spartans find new prototype weaponry (the new guns in Halo 2) and spend multiple paragraphs talking about how great they are.

And then it turns out the new guns were twenty years old anyway.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

FrenzyTheKillbot posted:



02 - Outskirts


Time to head to the surface, repel the Covenant invaders, and figure out what it is they want on Earth.


I don't remember it being that bad, but that was also 15 years ago and I still had my youthful coordination and reaction time. But yeah feel free to talk about it, we aren't going to be talking about it too much other than the odd mention.

Hello Mr. Legendary Jackal Sniper I see that I am dead.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
I think it's somewhere in The Flood that the Covenant talk about Earth existing just not knowing anything about it beyond being the homeworld.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
Covenant can't operate Foreunner tech in the biocode sense, but they can still crack and decrypt it if the need is greater than their preservation of sanctity.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
It's spooooooky :ghost:

I don't even remember when Spirits were officially named. Wars, I think?

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

FrenzyTheKillbot posted:

Pretty sure they were named in Fall of Reach, the first novel. Eric Nylund worked really, really closely with the Bungie guys to sort out a lot of canon stuff when he was writing it.

Haha, I don't remember this coming up in the books I've read, but it also doesn't surprise me at all.

Nah, it's just Covenant Dropship for a long rear end time. Wars/Reach maybe even Ghosts of Onyx or Harvest are the earliest and even then I'm not sure on which.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
There are Grunts and Hunters on the Brutes' side during the Chief's levels, at least.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

Kibayasu posted:

Would have been neat to hear a war of words between Truth and Gravemind, trying to pacify/terrify whatever the populace on High Charity is. As it is I almost imagine that Truth is just a recording and Gravemind is just too annoyed hearing it not to respond.

I guess this is another level who's context got cut, seems like the "councilors" could be a kind of internal Elite leadership. Bet you were supposed to meet them earlier in the game too.

The councilors are white-armored Elites with big helmets from way back during the opening cutscene where the not-yet-Arbiter was reporting.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
All Legendary Halo 2 unlocks is your budding masochism.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
The plan was to fire the ring and just have everything explode and do it that way.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
Elites don't even have enemy AI in ODST since it's based on the 3 engine. 343 had to do some shenanigans to make them work in ODST's firefight for MCC.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
Stanforth was the Admiral in charge of the Spartan-II project. One of them anyway. He was the one who led the reinforcement fleet for Keyes after the Keyes Loop, promoted him after. He was part of ONI and presumably died during Reach.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

FrenzyTheKillbot posted:



XX - Arcadia City on Legendary


This game doesn't seem too hard, let's knock it up a notch!

It seems to be just health/damage scaling, but I think the number of enemies and available enemy units changes as well. We see a few things in this video that are new.

I think they also get their upgrades by default or earlier too.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

Regalingualius posted:

And something like half of all of the active duty Spartan deaths/casualties in that entire book happened because someone in the future did the equivalent of leaving their thumb drive back at work, IIRC?

Stranger than that. Colonel Ackerson tried to kill Chief and Cortana during a Mk5 test and Cortana went for some revenge and decoupled one of his section's ships to gently caress with him. This is why Chief, Linda and James had to go to the space dock, to clear the data that the station's AI couldn't reach because it'd been pulled from the network. Granted this ended up saving the Chief and Linda (and Johnson's team too) in the end but boy was that a gently caress-up at the time.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

Optimus_Rhyme posted:

I don't remember from the books (which I think this game deviates from), having read them 22 years ago, but what spart does John play in the book, if any?

He's either currently on the Pillar of Autumn or raiding a space station and wiping out a ship with coordinates to Earth.

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McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
Suicidal missions with low success chances but not intended to be one-way trips. Alpha and Beta just got annihilated anyway. Then Gamma mostly fell into plot holes I think.

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