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u oughta try winning so ur not such a lil bitch about $2
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Jan 15, 2021 06:39
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I live in a country that pays proper wages and dealers are not allowed to accept tips. I would theoretically tip them but only if I won a huge amount.
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Jan 15, 2021 07:45
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Depends what style of mask you wear. If you're going for mild mannered and conscientious, tipping might reinforce your brand. For a more the brash and aggressive look, ya maybe it's a waste of money
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Jan 15, 2021 15:15
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Most tables the dealer makes more than everyone there, yah. And they are entitled as hell about it. But you gotta do it. MGM used to have tables with this little lip, your chips in front of you would be a little down off the main felt. I'd been playing wsop tournies and satellites all day, decided to go do a little cash at MGM (bum hunting at MGM 1-2 is my speed). I'm doing pretty good, taking hands down left and right. Hand comes, heavy action, I absolutely nail the flop, this guy bets hard into me. I'm gonna shove in but there's this loving lip, so I grab my stacks and drop them boom boom up onto the felt. Dealer calls me for a string bet! Says only the little stack counts not the one with all the big chips. I go ripshit... why is this dude doing this to me? Then realize I haven't been tipping this whole time haha. Playing tournies all day (where you don't tip), and I've just been on autopilot. I call the floor over, explain the whole thing, and she loving laughs and says he could have said only the first chip counted, not even one of the stacks. They got all kinds of games they can play, need dealers on your side, or at least not against you.
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Jan 15, 2021 18:12
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Tipping people feels real good. When you put a dollar in the jar for take out they seem genuinely happy. I would want the person dealing me bad beats to feel happy too so he would deal me less beats. But that's just me.
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Jan 15, 2021 23:12
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Baddog posted:Most tables the dealer makes more than everyone there, yah. And they are entitled as hell about it. But you gotta do it. i haven't played at commerce but i imagine it's still true, but that place use to be corrupt as hell. lots of 5/10 regulars getting favorable calls because they tipped the floor well. i guess the moral of that story is if you're going to tip anyone, tip the floor. but yeah just i personally just tip the dealers. if you're playing $1/$2 and you win a $20ish dollar pot, okay i can see not tipping that since that's basically preflop raise + flop cbet. but if you win a much bigger pot you should tip.
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Jan 16, 2021 04:39
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MY INEVITABLE DEBT posted:u oughta try winning so ur not such a lil bitch about $2 
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Jan 16, 2021 05:33
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MY INEVITABLE DEBT posted:u oughta try winning so ur not such a lil bitch about $2  Okay, here's my peanut gallery take. I've only been to a Real Casino once, as a slightly belated 21st birthday present from my dad. He and I came in with a lot of money we'd saved up, fully knowing that we'd probably just keep playing until we spent it all. When we were rolling hot, or hit an ace on the river, or even just got a dirty 21? Tip time. It's because my dad's kind of superstitious about his gambling but, like. Even if it didn't change anything? Even though we still walked out $[money] poorer with nothing to show for it? Some of those dealers were really sad to see us leave their tables and really happy to see us come back. Manipulative? Maybe. Favoritism? Only in a social sense, we still got womped. But it made some people happy, gave them a Good Day they could tell their coworkers about later. "Yeah, Janey once had a father/daughter pair at $2.50/$5 blackjack who tipped like $100 in total by the end of their first night." "Woah, really?" "Oh, I remember them! The daughter was chainsmoking Camel Filters, right?" "That's them! I think they must have dropped like $500 by the end of the holiday weekend on whatever tables they were having fun at." "Yeah, they came by my table, too! They were both boozed up to the gills and the daughter had terrible table etiquette, but it was really hard to care once I realized they gave me $10 total every time they rolled boxcars." I'd rather be that person than the one who walks out a tiny bit richer during a "we're burning it all anyways" vacation. And if you're going into anything but a poker tournament expecting to turn a profit, you should go talk to someone about the excuses you're making for your gambling problem. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Jan 16, 2021 |
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Jan 16, 2021 05:41
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if you don't wanna tip, then play the slots you goon
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Jan 16, 2021 05:43
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Tip your dealers, at least someone will walk away with cash.
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Jan 16, 2021 05:47
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you aren't taking a stand against the system by being a cheap rear end in a top hat, just tip your dealers
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Jan 16, 2021 05:51
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I think your play is often rated (much) better if you are a good tipper, although I bet a lot of that is getting automated. Would like to hear from casino folks on that. Strong sauce, he didn't have to give her any signal, i straight up told her in front of the table "this guy is trying to gently caress me cus Ive been forgetting to tip" hahaha. Maybe not the best move.
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Jan 16, 2021 06:05
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Meinberg posted:if you don't wanna tip, then play the slots you goon blood devil Anidav posted:Tip your dealers, at least someone will walk away with cash. Jen X posted:you aren't taking a stand against the system by being a cheap rear end in a top hat, just tip your dealers  Baddog posted:Strong sauce, he didn't have to give her any signal, i straight up told her in front of the table "this guy is trying to gently caress me cus Ive been forgetting to tip" hahaha. Maybe not the best move.
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Jan 16, 2021 06:11
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Baddog posted:I think your play is often rated (much) better if you are a good tipper, although I bet a lot of that is getting automated. Would like to hear from casino folks on that. Im a dealer and I definitely have this thread bookmarked for later when I’m home from work  Question for OP: do you tip waitresses / bartenders / delivery drivers? Why or why not?
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Jan 16, 2021 08:06
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guys.
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Jan 16, 2021 11:07
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I've hijacked your thread and now it is for casino industry folk to talk about great tips and horrible stiffs they've endured.
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Jan 16, 2021 11:17
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JOHN CENA posted:I've hijacked your thread and now it is for casino industry folk to talk about great tips and horrible stiffs they've endured. 
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Jan 16, 2021 13:29
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I always wondered about this and maybe some of the dealers can help out. I always tip in poker if I win a hand. I have a friend who will only tip the dealer if he is up for the night. If he is down money he refuses to tip. I feel like tipping is because I appreciate the work they are doing win or lose. What’s the standard on that?
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Jan 16, 2021 17:51
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jase1 posted:I always wondered about this and maybe some of the dealers can help out. Not a dealer but have played plenty of live poker. Almost everyone including me tip the dealer no matter if we are up or down for the night. It’s kind of lovely IMO to not tip just because you’re losing. Tipping is just included in the cost of playing poker for me. Mind_Taker fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Jan 16, 2021 |
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Jan 16, 2021 18:00
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jase1 posted:I always wondered about this and maybe some of the dealers can help out. The dealers personally have nothing to do with whether you're winning or losing. Tip them, don't be a dick. That's the standard.
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Jan 16, 2021 18:20
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this is a really interesting thread. i'm not a gambler and have never stepped foot inside a casino so i never knew tipping the dealer was a thing. at first impression it seems different than tipping waitstaff or a bartender since the stakes are higher and the dealer is supposed to be totally impartial. a bartender giving me extra service is different than having the rules interpreted in my favor. it feels more like buying my boss a present instead of leaving 30% on a tab. is this a worldwide standard or another example of the US pushing employees' survival off the responsibility of employers and onto the backs of customers?
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i say swears online posted:this is a really interesting thread. i'm not a gambler and have never stepped foot inside a casino so i never knew tipping the dealer was a thing. at first impression it seems different than tipping waitstaff or a bartender since the stakes are higher and the dealer is supposed to be totally impartial. a bartender giving me extra service is different than having the rules interpreted in my favor. it feels more like buying my boss a present instead of leaving 30% on a tab. is this a worldwide standard or another example of the US pushing employees' survival off the responsibility of employers and onto the backs of customers? I've played in casinos in the US, and Ireland as a regular. I tipped in all those places. Everyone else tipped as well. I can't say it's standard worldwide though. In the US though it is definitely the latter.. dealers don't make a lot without tips but they probably do make more that waitresses depending on how well the players toke. Some gamblers tip for good luck, some tip to show appreciation to the dealer.Me getting more hands in poker is good for the game and good for the casino too so having someone who can deal fast, shuffle fast (although most poker games have a red/blue deck and one is constantly in the shuffler for the next hand), bring in the pot, evaluate who's won and push the pot. If I'm playing Paigow or Blackjack, I'm generally playing for entertainment, so if the dealer deals well or is fun to talk to, I'll tip. Dealing actually requires some skill, not only do you have to know the rules but you also have to move the game at a good pace without loving up the deal. It's underappreciated until a less skilled dealer comes along and can't flick cards out or maybe their arms are too short to grab the chips around the table. But yeah, no one is going to kick you out if you don't tip... but any rulings that are subject to the floor probably won't go your way either.
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Worst case scenario, if you gently caress up, and you didn’t ever tip anybody, they might feel less charitable about letting it slide or giving you the benefit of the doubt?
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Jan 16, 2021 21:10
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I tip on almost every win over a few bucks. I can see getting stuck in tournament mode and totally forgetting about it though. Once the dealer decides to say gently caress you for a screwup it’s not like you can just give them $30 to have them rule in your favor lol.
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Jan 17, 2021 07:49
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I tip on any big pot. Sometimes I get so lost in the game that I initially forget when I end up taking a 500 dollar pot or whatever, but I try to always remember to tip eventually. I dont tip taking small pots, though. Its reserved for a good win on my part. I also tip when leaving the table if I'm up at all.
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Jan 17, 2021 10:59
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Someone asked if you tip elsewhere. Definitely not in Macao.
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Jan 17, 2021 15:59
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Jen X posted:you aren't taking a stand against the system by being a cheap rear end in a top hat, just tip your dealers
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Jan 17, 2021 18:56
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salt shakeup posted:I live in a country that pays proper wages and dealers are not allowed to accept tips. I would theoretically tip them but only if I won a huge amount. Whats the average salary for dealers there? I've had this conversation with some coworkers and since we work in a busy room they all believe they would be losing money on that deal.
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Jan 17, 2021 22:14
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JOHN CENA posted:I've hijacked your thread and now it is for casino industry folk to talk about great tips and horrible stiffs they've endured. I was dealing a 50/100 PLO game a few years ago and was stiffed on an $80k pot. I wanted to puke. I have way more stories of good tippers but they arent as good as the bad stories. Tip your dealers, the house sure as poo poo isn't paying them.
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Jan 17, 2021 22:18
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i'll tip on a big hand but the most fun thing at a blackjack table is to put a bet up in front with your dealer lol
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Jan 18, 2021 00:14
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Thief posted:i'll tip on a big hand Can confirm, this is fun. Also, makes a good use of the pink chips if you’re playing bets that don’t make 3:2 easily. (Like when you win 22.50 on 15 or 37.50 on 25.
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As one of the idiot kings of this forum I can't change your mind but I can decree a forum edict: gently caress you if you don't tip employees anywhere who depend on tips
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Jan 20, 2021 00:26
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TheJunkyardGod posted:I was dealing a 50/100 PLO game a few years ago and was stiffed on an $80k pot. I wanted to puke. we had a guy hit here for $400k a month or so back and he hit everyone of my ticket writers n supes up with $500
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TheJunkyardGod posted:Whats the average salary for dealers there? I've had this conversation with some coworkers and since we work in a busy room they all believe they would be losing money on that deal. Hey I've no idea what dealers get paid but that wouldn't suprise me, one high roller giving you a big tip would make a big difference.
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Jan 20, 2021 06:25
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salt shakeup posted:Hey I've no idea what dealers get paid but that wouldn't suprise me, one high roller giving you a big tip would make a big difference. that was a big deal in the campaign to classify restaurant workers under minimum wage laws in DC; applebee's waitstaff benefitted but the staff of senator bumfuck's favorite watering hole came out way behind in the proposed deal (which passed and was overturned by the city council  )
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The only problem I have with tipping is if you're playing like $3/$6 limit your best game is gonna get you maybe $4.50/hr. Tip a buck for every small pot and then add in rake and you're going to slowly bleed out, and that's assuming you're a really good player, which lol I am not. I'd prefer to not tip on small pots and tip $2 instead on big pots but the actual answer is not to play loving $3/$6 limit
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TheJunkyardGod posted:Whats the average salary for dealers there? I've had this conversation with some coworkers and since we work in a busy room they all believe they would be losing money on that deal. In Australia most casinos reach a type of agreement that makes these numbers a matter of public record. This is for Crown Casino in Melbourne, all values are AUD https://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/documents/agreements/fwa/ae507680.pdf 
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Wow thats really good. There's maybe only a handful of casinos in the US where the dealers are beating those rates, even adjusted to US dollars.
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