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Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


VileLL posted:

what the gently caress is salesforce

It is, effectively, the seventh circle of hell, but with reminder emails that tell you that you haven't reached out to a (probably dead) guy in six months because he stopped answering your calls a year ago.

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Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Scientastic posted:

It’s waaaaaay better than the Excel spreadsheet I used to keep all my customer/supplier contacts on, and makes it a lot easier to check that you have enough coming in to hit your target.

We use Netsuite because my boss thinks we're "Enterprise" enough, but doesn't realize he pays more for the software per month than he pays me to manage the people who touch the software every day, therefore I'm not loving fixing this broken poo poo.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


On a conference call right now where my boss is talking over my prospect right now and essentially telling them they're very stupid, when I'm fact, it is my boss who is the dolt, because I know he's looking at the wrong project specs.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Fellow former hotel worker here. Solidarity.

The worst guy we ever had was the guy who got property banned (this is a very hard thing to do) so he saved up his poo poo in trash bags for a couple of weeks, then spread poo poo through the hallways and rubbed it on the walls in places the cameras couldn't catch him.

It took a second poo poo smearing episode for him to get caught. I always worked alone. It was real cool and good.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


I still technically work in the industry. Now I just sell things to the industry instead of being boots on the ground.

Has a guy call me at 1:30 yesterday afternoon.

"You HAVE to overnight me a case of <very expensive soap we don't carry because nobody buys it>. I'm overbooked and (we'll call her) Gina is a dumbfuck and didn't order any!"

"We don't actually carry that brand, and haven't for the last two years. We do have <replacement expensive poo poo> and I would be happy to ship that to you via Ground, but we're not overnighting things today."

"LET ME SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGER."

"I'm the COO of the company."

"Well, I don't know what that means!"

This went on for a half hour until I convinced him he meant to call American Hotel Register. Which we are not.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


My favorite hotel story is the guy who came downstairs and swore there was a ghost in his room banging around, waking him up and standing over him in the middle of the night.

It was a drunk guy from the adjoining room, and the old ghost-seer was also drunk and forgot to lock the adjoining door.

Always lock the door.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


My boss hasn't let me work from home the entire pandemic. Yesterday, the building's internet was out. Instead of letting me even go work fun my phone in the Starbucks parking lot or go home and work from my own laptop, he made me sit at my desk and do literally nothing for 8 hours. Anyway I'm interviewing for a WFH job for a fully remote company and I'm not giving notice when I leave because my boss told me "well, you're fully vaccinated so you shouldn't wear a mask in the office to encourage others to get vaccinated."

I'm gonna wear my full respirator every day until I get out.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


My direct boss is going on vacation next week so it's the big boss only, me, assistant, warehouse manager and useless intern.

Big boss is completely out of touch with reality about how time, supplies in a COVID world, human patience, production and shipping work, plus he was supposed to retire but the pandemic hit and he dug in his heels, so I'm running the office by myself.

I anticipate crying in the warehouse corner at least twice so I spent a portion of today making myself a comfy corner for the privilege of it.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Call Your Grandma posted:

you should steal some office supplies imo

I'm building a goon cabin in the woods from boxes of #10 envelopes and paperclips and my boss is none the wiser.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Barudak posted:

Friends, current projection is we sell out of inventory during the presentation announcing we have inventory

That actually happened to me while I was on the call announcing inventory arrival today.

We're doing great.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Lol I have an interview with a brand we distribute. My boss doesn't know. He's not gonna know unless he gets an email from me with @thebrand.com.

I feel no shame about being poached because it's full WFH, about 8x what I make plus benefits.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Biowarfare posted:

how loving absurdly underpaid are you that you can get 8x what you make

Lol I make barely more than the person doing order entry. I am paid hourly. I was originally hired as an admin and failed upward rapidly in a dying small business in a failing market sector.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Also never work in tech or sales for a small business unless you really, really like the abuse. I'm happy to see light at the end of the tunnel.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Lascivious Sloth posted:

Yeah that's a bit weird. If I was paid 8x my current salary I would retire in a few years from the investments I would make alone. They must be at a minimum wage/starter or intern wage.

edit: I'd suck dick all day for 8x my current salary

It is not. It is a poo poo tier small business in hospitality.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


I got passed to the next round of interviews. I would be going back to my previous industry and getting paid software money again, whereas right now I'm paid basically mid-tier administrative assistant at a small business in the US money, while doing a lot of things at a sub-ten-person company. Compensation range for potential new job is in line with previous jobs I had before my life exploded, I moved 3000 miles and had to take this job to scratch by.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Also, I know y'all are mostly engineers, but laying this out:

People in hospitality and hospitality connected industries including distribution and logistics are paid much less and overworked basically to the point of breaking at all times, but especially currently. There are not benefits offered generally at all, you are kept to less than full time hours on a schedule but often work 60+ hours a week, your title does not come with additional compensation, and bonuses are things that happen to other people.

I've worked in a distribution office the entire pandemic, plus six months before that. I do everything from direct order management to sales negotiation to doing software and hardware support to being the administrator for our ERP. It's a lot of hats, I am very tired and I really look forward to not getting 4am emails with someone screaming they're out of product X and we HAVE to overnight it RIGHT NOW or else we all get poo poo canned.

I would have walked earlier but live in one of those places that you can't get unemployment if you quit, and they will fight you on it if you try. And I don't currently have the kind of support network that would let me do that with any sort of safety net because of aforementioned life explosion.

So I'm applying for things and sending out lifelines and one maybe came through. I have a different interview lined up with a different place Friday afternoon post-work; again, a previous industry and role I've held, touching computers primarily, with benefits and compensation in line with what I previously made, fully remote, with actual equipment provided.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


I've straight up told people that if they have the skills and land another job, just loving walk, it's not worth staying in this loving industry.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Outrail posted:

Burn this idiot system to the ground. I have to fight to pay staff a living wage and it might not even be feasible in the long run.

Yup. They worked my last order processing/customer service person so hard they had a mental breakdown at work and got picked up by their spouse and we never heard from them again. I did their last paycheck via direct deposit as soon as payroll hit.

My boss still poo poo talks them, about how they're "just aren't dedicated to the cause." Bruh, we sell people boxes and the boxes go in the truck and the trucks go to hubs and then to other trucks and then people use the thing and throw it away. It's not like we're loving out here saving lives. It's literally creating more waste that leads to the heat death of the universe in an industry that should be focused on safety but is instead saying "sure thing, bring your deadly viruses here!!!!"

I hate this poo poo.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


I just asked for a day off so I can go have a tooth pulled that I broke grinding my teeth. I was told "we can't really spare anyone right now."

Just a few more weeks.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


They straight up fired someone who had a miscarriage this week, so, yeah they do have the balls.
They genuinely do not give a gently caress about humans, this is why I'm trying to get out.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


zedprime posted:

I think the problem here is going to be once they get done firing everybody for illegal reasons they aren't gonna get any valuable work done and they'll go bankrupt before they pay out for any lawsuits.

Yes exactly, it's circling the drain hard and fast. They lost three major contracts due to my boss literally telling people to go gently caress themselves over and over.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Lol. We don't have HR. We have my boss, who owns the C-corp.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Also what performance evaluations? I get screamed at. That's it. I sold a multi million dollar contract and got told I don't know how to sell and that I'm stupid, and also, I still get paid hourly with no commission.

This is what people don't get. I mean small business, sub ten people, in hospitality. We sell stuff to hotels. It's a pandemic and supply chains are hosed.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


zedprime posted:

I'm speaking generally because we've already established there's no blood left in your stone. But what I don't get for you, and it's honestly because I don't know your background, location, skillset finances etc. So maybe it isn't as sure as a shot in the logistic markets I'm adjacent to, is why you don't just no show and get a $5k sign on for picking pallets somewhere where you get in line for a clerk/sales position that if it isn't open yet will be in weeks. I don't know a logistic sector that isn't in absolute chaos and paying bounties for truck drivers, fork drivers, clerks etc. because everyone is calling everyone's bluff.

I'm not picking pallets. I don't want a sales clerk position. I am not forklift certified. I was hired to answer the phone and send emails. I physically *cannot* pick pallets and poo poo, that's why I took the office gig and it turned into this poo poo show. I'm not able bodied, I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome and a lot of other things happening; my background is pretty chaotic because I run a textile business for myself that has been entirely sidelined by the pandemic and this job taking over everything, and prior to leaving the west coast, I'm a professional computer janitor that worked at three of the FAANG companies. Prior to that, I worked in hospitality: first car rental corporate sales, then hotels, then finally I got the gently caress out. My degrees are in physics. I left the west coast as soon as I could for deeply hosed up personal reasons and I miss it every day because now I'm stuck in a poo poo tier state, but at least I like the city I'm in.

It's fine.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Like the very frustrating part is I just want to be locked in a closet with a really hard math problem and be left alone.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


goatface posted:

It's a shame academia is hosed.

Hard agree. I would hilariously be making less if I had stayed in.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


"I need you to come in at 3am to check in this container from Canada."

"I can't, I have plans already on the schedule."

"Oh, can you move them?"

"No, I cannot move my sleep schedule."

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Walmart has the Walmart Chant. I spent four years from high school to college being forced to do it. We were also told that they couldn't tell us who to vote for, but it would be in our best interests to vote for George W. Bush, because he would protect the company's interests.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Barudak posted:

My company is out of stock into next year so badly they've already pre-emptively asked me to not do so much next year.

They did, somehow, find stock to send me a sample unit (sans attachment) so I can stare at it I guess? Whatever its pretty and will look excellent on my mantlepiece as I regale people with tales of what it would be like to have to do my job to sell these.

Same. Except the company owner is trying to make me actively prospect for new customers. And we won't have stock for 95% of our items until February.

The best part is that he's leaving to go to Croatia today for...idk. I don't know why anyone would fly to Eastern Europe in a pandemic. But he is.

And I'll be long gone from here by February.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


We have had backorders open since March 2020 that people are still expecting and I'm supposed to keep kicking the can down the road because my boss sees customers as ATMs and workers as bagmen.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Blowdryer posted:

Croatia is incredibly beautiful and covid isn't bad there right now

My boss is unvaccinated and very stupid, this is still a terrible idea.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


I eagerly await him getting turned away at the border tbh.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Meanwhile, I have an interview for a WFH job that is more my wheelhouse and no sales, and I don't have to talk on the phone or go to meetings. I would very much like this job that has a normal schedule, with benefits and a better salary, so I don't have to ever leave my goon hovel again.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Barudak posted:

I had a mandatory on camera call today and I actually swore under my breath as I rooted around for the clean business shirts I havent touched in years

This is why I use a photo and tell them that for security purposes I cannot be on video.

They generally don't question it because I worked for Big Infosec Firm some time ago for a long while and the people who demand on camera meetings don't genuinely understand that I'm being a poo poo.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Boss update: lol he's stuck in NYC indefinitely in the aftermath of a hurricane and he has done this entirely to himself

Enjoy trying to get to Eastern Europe now I guess

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Barudak posted:

Nobody is going to the website with the QR code we put on the product!

Thats not my problem, I sell the product not the QR code and I don't manage the site

You've got to fix this

Hey it looks like the QR code doesn't go to an active website and just sends you to an error page

<silence>

I feel great joy

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Local Weather posted:

The CEO of the last company I worked for was forced out for being in charge of one of the most disasterous projects in American corporate history and yet somehow was paid over $65 million to leave. poo poo like this should cause unrest yet things just continue rolling along. I guess I can rest well knowing that I'll never be paid enough to retire in absolute loving luxury for causing a disaster that almost bankrupts the company and causes enough damage to permanently affect the global status of said company for the foreseeable future.

Also, cubicles aren't great but they're better than sitting at these desk/table rows where the whole room is just noisy like a casino and you have zero privacy whatsoever.

You either also worked at Palm-then-HP or this country sucks even more than I thought.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Lol I rejected one offer wholesale and sent a counter offer to another place and then had five more requests for interviews at other places before they've returned other offers.

Also my current boss just tried to sell me the company. No thanks buddy, that ship sailed a year ago when I offered. It's cursed now.

Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


Critical posted:

i had two interviews scheduled yesterday. the first was virtual, the second was in person. really wanted the first one and the other one was backup.

killed the first interview, basically got an offer on the spot and when she asked what i wanted she balked at the number. told her i had one offer (lie) and one more interview and she said she would see what she could do.

called me back as i was pulling into the place for the second interview and offered me 5k past what I asked for. took it and drove home screeching like a banshee.

so basically i just spent the last 18 months smoking weed and playing video games while being paid by the poo poo government and then negotiated the highest salary of my life the day i got my last dua check.

no dumb bullshit in this, but if my sadbrains weed addled goony rear end can negotiate something worth a poo poo you can too.

gently caress yeah, I'm proud of you

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Randy Travesty
Oct 27, 2014

PHANTOM QUEEN


If you'd like to use a collective noun for someone or a group of people, ask the people you're grouping. I don't identify as "native American" or "Indian" but I do identify as Muscogee.

It's...not hard.

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