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RFC2324 posted:I believe the situation is that landlords get around rent controls by renting to their buddy who then sublets it. lol, I'm an idiot, I now vote for the full seizure of all rental properties to be distributed by the peoples commissariat while all rental owners are gulagged.
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maffew buildings posted:Ok so let's say, track with me here on a hypothetical, this will never loving happen. What then? I can't speak for everyone but I know for me the frustration is we have no feasible changes that will happen under the current system so it's basically let's see how bad this gets with a never ending timeline. Will rent control fix poo poo? No, but maybe it would unfuck things for some people more than we currently are with the brave course of action of doing nothing You didn't have everything is impossible so we shouldn't do anything to your Reagan Bootstraps Memorial Circle. How does this mean proper rent control is easier/possible to achieve?
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TCD posted:Rough calculation for DC: 1: those taxes appear to be overestimated by several thousand dollars. 2: what do you think families that make median wages and work full time do? I bet the answer is not that they spend $40,000 a year on childcare. This is close to a dril post.
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lightpole posted:You didn't have everything is impossible so we shouldn't do anything to your Reagan Bootstraps Memorial Circle. How does this mean proper rent control is easier/possible to achieve? I'm confused man, if rent control is bad and we live in a society where the rich won't get taxed and we won't raise wages, what's the fix? I don't loving know, I didn't go to college for this poo poo, what's our next move if it isn't rent control when nothing else will change? I guess one step would be we get lawmakers who aren't by and large hellbent on maintaining entrenched wealth but that also doesn't seem too plausible.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:I'm just glad my VA poo poo isn't taxable.
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RFC2324 posted:This would make sense if it weren't for all the empty houses. There isn't a scarcity of housing, there is an overabundance of greedy fucks who are bad at math The state absolutely should be actively building/managing homes in places where the market is loving over all but the rich (and not just subsidizing private entities to do so). Hell, could even build "market rate" homes and use the profit toward more/better affordable options. The reason these state projects failed in the past wasn't that the idea was inherently bad, but that the implementation ended up being "let's concentrate these poor minorities in a small area away from the rich and without meaningful economic opportunity." Affordable housing needs to be put where people want to live and work and that means not segregating it away. That means smashing the anti-neighbor NIMBYism that pervades even self-styled progressive areas. Here's a Toronto neighborhood opposing 64-units of affordable housing because the parking lot it would replace is "the hub of the community" and "this isn't the kind of neighborhood for affordable housing": https://twitter.com/KamilKaramali/status/1365498132033863680
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maffew buildings posted:I'm confused man, if rent control is bad and we live in a society where the rich won't get taxed and we won't raise wages, what's the fix? I don't loving know, I didn't go to college for this poo poo, what's our next move if it isn't rent control when nothing else will change? I guess one step would be we get lawmakers who aren't by and large hellbent on maintaining entrenched wealth but that also doesn't seem too plausible. The answer is to die quietly in some invisible corner like a good little peon. 
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Defenestrategy posted:lol, I'm an idiot, I now vote for the full seizure of all rental properties to be distributed by the peoples commissariat while all rental owners are gulagged. I think that a mandatory sale/confiscation of large multi-unit buildings from landlords and turning them all into co-ops/condos owned by individual residents is something that should happen at some point, either that or public ownership if necessary. IMO the only “landlording” that should be allowed are owner occupied duplexes/triplexes. In an ideal world nobody should otherwise be owning property solely for investment purposes.
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Defenestrategy posted:I now vote for the full seizure of all rental properties to be distributed by the peoples commissariat while all rental owners are gulagged. this, but not kidding
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Flying_Crab posted:I think that a mandatory sale/confiscation of large multi-unit buildings from landlords and turning them all into co-ops/condos owned by individual residents is something that should happen at some point, either that or public ownership if necessary. IMO the only “landlording” that should be allowed are owner occupied duplexes/triplexes. In an ideal world nobody should otherwise be owning property solely for investment purposes. It's amazing how many people don't know that co-ops and other alternatives to rental exist.
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Stultus Maximus posted:It's amazing how many people don't know that co-ops and other alternatives to rental exist. its almost as if it's by design
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mlmp08 posted:1: those taxes appear to be overestimated by several thousand dollars. They don't work jobs that earn 150k, mostly. If you're in a job that earns that much you don't have your kids at home or in any place where they can interfere with your job. Because any interruption to availability or capacity to do that highly paid job isn't acceptable. source: living in the DC region earning 150k+ with a team of others doing the same that all have children. Several of them had to go on leave when the daycares shut down. If you don't have family to take care of them, you're coughing up a fortune to get them out of the way. I mean the root of the problem is that nobody should have to pay for childcare and having children shouldn't be a barrier to job requirements, but that's not the world we currently live in.
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I somehow got a lastish minute vaccine appointment. Today is my Friday so it works perfectly with the 48 hour DQ I get. I also make about $170k a year before holidays and differentials. It’s a shitload of money. I’ve worked with a ton of people that are “barely scraping by” for whatever reason. They’re clearly doing something wrong but it’s way more common than you think. The amount of people that are legit worried every time there’s an actual government shutdown is pretty insane. What’s super hosed up is that I don’t feel comfortable spending what you have to spend to get a house where I’m at. I don’t know how people with “normal” incomes do it. I make like 3 times the average household income where I’m at yet the median house price is north of $400k. fknlo fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Feb 28, 2021 |
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fknlo posted:What’s super hosed up is that I don’t feel comfortable spending what you have to spend to get a house where I’m at. I don’t know how people with “normal” incomes do it. I make like 3 times the average household income where I’m at yet the median house price is north of $400k. I'm looking to buy a house in the next 90 days, likely spending 600-650k. The only way I'm able to do this is because I'm highly paid, in a very stable career field, and oh yeah I'm 100% disabled so my many tens of thousands of loan debt was wiped clean and I don't have to pay property taxes in the state of Virginia ever. Around here if you're not DINKs you're not buying a house.
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I never made $15 an hour in any job until I pinned on 1Lt. Therefore nobody else should either.  Edit: If you want to make $15/hr do a career in the military.
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Vasudus posted:They don't work jobs that earn 150k, mostly. What loving job at any level in TYOOL 2021 accepts any interruption or capacity decrease. Amazon expects more of their warehouse staff and tracks them far beyond anything I’ve ever put up with in my 100k corporate position loving white collar burden up in here
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fknlo posted:I somehow got a lastish minute vaccine appointment. Today is my Friday so it works perfectly with the 48 hour DQ I get. Making my mortgage payment is dead easy for my wife and I, but I will be the first to admit that the only reason we're homeowners today is because my parents helped us out with the down payment. This is the case for several of my friends, not just in DC, but in also in places that don't have high home prices like Connecticut or rural Oregon.
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quick everybody post # of kids gross income and land ownership status GO
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Making my mortgage payment is dead easy for my wife and I, but I will be the first to admit that the only reason we're homeowners today is because my parents helped us out with the down payment. This is the case for several of my friends, not just in DC, but in also in places that don't have high home prices like Connecticut or rural Oregon. I stupidly sold my house in KC when I moved out here. It was an old house and there were things it was going to need in the next few years that I didn't want to gently caress with from 600 miles away. Now I want to get back to KC and it would be awesome if I still had it for when I do. Prices have gone up quite a bit but they still don't have jack on prices along the front range.
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lightpole posted:So we look at our options and pick the worst one? Rent controls distort the market in the worst way, including by allowing you to sublet a rent controlled apartment for more than the controls if the lease allows. The incentive is to never let go of it. Address the rich by taxing them properly. People deserve housing their whole lives.
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fknlo posted:I don’t know how people with “normal” incomes do it. I make like 3 times the average household income where I’m at yet the median house price is north of $400k. Presumably rather than the luxury of nearby home ownership, they commute or live in apartments or maybe multigenerational homes or some other cost saving measure that is the bog standard norm. Or some of them have houses at expense to other luxuries like travel and IRAs.
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Maybe this is less inflammatory yet extremely true. https://twitter.com/jakeanbinder/status/1365866343963189251?s=21
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mlmp08 posted:Maybe this is less inflammatory yet extremely true. I think it's something along the lines of a high earning lifestyle is still an empty and draining existence and they think they need/deserve more money to fill the hole in their lives, which it wouldn't of course.
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Wasabi the J posted:People deserve housing their whole lives. No poo poo. Rent control does very little to work towards this. It does not bring empty properties on the market or increase housing stock in any way. You want more government intervention, up to and including government pushing high density housing. Why don't you just stick to calling people capitalist nazis since you don't have anything to add
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EBB posted:quick everybody post # of kids gross income and land ownership status GO Oh yeah, I never announced to this thread. I just got a kid, he popped out like 6 days ago.
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KirbyKhan posted:Oh yeah, I never announced to this thread. I just got a kid, he popped out like 6 days ago. aw poo poo congrats!
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KirbyKhan posted:Oh yeah, I never announced to this thread. I just got a kid, he popped out like 6 days ago. Congrats! I hope baby and mom are doing well.
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KirbyKhan posted:Oh yeah, I never announced to this thread. I just got a kid, he popped out like 6 days ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnMhJU6RsYU
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Awesome! Congrats on the little jelly bean! Hope all are doing well, Kirby.
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KirbyKhan posted:Oh yeah, I never announced to this thread. I just got a kid, he popped out like 6 days ago. congrats!
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KirbyKhan posted:Oh yeah, I never announced to this thread. I just got a kid, he popped out like 6 days ago. Congrats! I didn't know babby-Kirby could make pop sounds though 
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Cuomo's feet are starting to warm up a bit. https://twitter.com/JimmyVielkind/status/1366158336681521158?s=20
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I think $150,000/year sounds like an adequate minimum wage, sure.KirbyKhan posted:Oh yeah, I never announced to this thread. I just got a kid, he popped out like 6 days ago. Congratulations! And congratulations on failing to start any wildfires with the gender reveal! I feel like that's an accomplishment worthy of note in these trying times.
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KirbyKhan posted:Oh yeah, I never announced to this thread. I just got a kid, he popped out like 6 days ago. These forums have lead me to expect a gender reveal. Where are the explosions and maimed in-laws? I will un-mute any videos you post. Seriously, though, congratulations.
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