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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
well i dunno what do you want to talk about

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
the slap fighting between hastings and the sleepwalkers guy is hilarious to read

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
sleepwalkers: a complex series of decisions happened that didn't necessarily mean a war had to break out but the participants (particularly the allies) choose to do so

max hastings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEQVfIPoJyY

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
lol I don’t think we even had 66 bombs until 1948

e: lol not until 1949 actually

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Dreylad posted:

Never saw this, but I really did enjoy Sleepwalkers. The guy did an absolute bucketload of research across a whole bunch of different languages which is pretty drat impressive.


To be fair every nation has their myths like this. For a long time every French person of a certain age would claim they were part of the Resistance.

its in catastrophe: 1914. he spends the entire book subtweeting sleepwalkers while blaming everything on germany

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
spain in our hearts really goes into how american businessmen kept FDR from doing anything other than watching the movie hemmingway made on the war while floating franco $texas in oil and cash

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
iirc texaco literally arranged for one of their own oil tankers to be hijacked by the nationalists because the republicans had purchased its oil

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
anyone here with history graduate school experience? if I want to get a MA as a stepping stone to a doctorate how important is the "prestigious" of the MA program vis a vis applying to phd programs later

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
alright GWU it is then, sorry CSU east bay and SF state

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
finally something to cancel ho chi minh over

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
imo it was the double punch of the invasion and the bombs that finally got the war faction to stand aside

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

A Buttery Pastry posted:

you’re wrong.

the lord keeper of the privy seal disagrees and he was there afterall

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
the war faction wanted to fight to the end in the hope of getting a settlement from the bloodbath taking the home islands would be. the war conference before/during Nagasaki but after the soviet invasion shows that Amani et al, psychopaths that they were, still wanted to continue the war. the decision was only made by invoking hirohito’s will and his statements on why he choose to surrender focus on the bombs and the army sucking rear end. my conclusion is that the Soviet invasion finally forced the peace faction to out maneuver the war faction politically as a negotiated settlement was no longer possible, and the bombs and general failures of the military weighed most heavily on Hirohito.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

stalin testin' the waters with "haha it'd be so crazy but what if..."

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Suplex Liberace posted:

Hello I have a request I need everyone's favorite/good history books. Topic is not super important I just need the biggest list possible to pull from.

killing hope
battle cry of freedom
before the storm
nixonland
maybe the invisible bridge, this where perlstein's lib brain really begins to take over
albion's seed
making of the english working class
suburban warriors
eric foner's reconstruction
the half that has never been told
shake hands with the devil
wages of destruction
i remember liking figes' history of the russian revolution and his crimean war book but there was some scandal involving his academics iirc
foote's civil war trilogy
stayin' alive
us capitalist development since 1776. a political economy of the US by david dowe

any of max hastings books. he's a british tory but his history is quite good and you can lol at him grinding his teeth as the communists rack up victory after victory


unfortunately the other 2/3 of my books are in storage and my memory of which ones they are is terrible

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
oh also shattered sword, a history of the battle of midway and an lesson par excellence in the important of cross-lingual research

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
oh another good book i forgot is company aytch: or a sideshow of the bigshow. its the biography of a confederate private who was at more major civil war battles than he wasn't

e: also if you watched the civil war you've probably heard half of it already lol

Raskolnikov38 has issued a correction as of 20:19 on Sep 27, 2021

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Some Guy TT posted:

it was an old mod decision that could be reversed but doesnt seem necessary since the title change has spiked this ones activity to be similar to other one

in fact iirc it was a flavius decision

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Chamale posted:

The A/T military history thread has no such division, and tends to rehash WWII a lot. I think having two threads is good.

there seems to be zero interest in ww2 hashing in cspam interestingly

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
also grad school history is like trying to drink from a firehose, gently caress

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
I believe the Stalin was necessary take focuses on him being the only possible soviet leader that would have industrialized the union to the point needed for the war.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
I find it extremely difficult to give any shits about fascist civilians suffering during the course of ww2

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
more or less. the fascist civilians were not unaware of what was being done in their names. if they wanted pity there should have been a thousand more stauffenbergs

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
yeah its bad but war is all hell and you cannot refine it

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
what do you want dude? yeah its bad to burn cities to the ground but in the context of total war and fascism i'm not going to waste time pontificating on that specific instance

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
the soviets also tried to set up a splinter socialist iranian-azerbaijan and kurdish states in the part they occupied

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Re: war crimes: there seem to be three positions, always:

1. X is wrong and it's always wrong and we should always be against it
2. X is an okay thing to do
3. X is wrong and it's a universal truth that X is wrong but somehow it's only wrong when the people we defeated did it

3 is the position that has held true for basically ever but especially during the 20th and 21st century

i'll take #4. X is wrong, it's a universal truth that X is wrong but only the defeated get punished for it

can i also get a frosty

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
is there oil or some rare fish around the falklands? why does anyone care much about rocks with ~3k people on them

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
full disclosure: this request comes from a paper i'm working on

does anyone know of situations involving sources similar to fuchida, midway, and shattered sword? looking specifically for cases where bad historical sources are used due to language barriers. its for a historical methodologies paper about the risks of easily available sources in a language other than what they were written in.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
I’m not sure how well received Felix will be as a source by the professor

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
ohhh clean wehrmact is a good one, especially since halder helped write US army history documents

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
Red Army Faction was completely correct to rain terror down upon their nazi complicit parents generation

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yujF8AumiQo

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
doesnt look like it sealed very well so i'm gonna say no

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
there’s no way that body hasn’t been dissolved in lime

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

lmao did bill go to the same school as trump

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
dayum

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
we know what happened lol. they were worked to death repairing the damage they caused

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
“wounded”

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
2nd best after yamamoto is either nagumo or kurita and lmao

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