Riot Bimbo posted:

1/6 is nothing, and should be regarded as nothing. you should mock anyone making it out to be something.

making it A Thing only serves the security state and related shitheads~

Crunchy Black posted:

its literally already been put out of the collective consciousness

It will amount to and mean nothing to anyone but 6 leftists.liberals

Main Paineframe posted:

the 90s were a time of incredible complacency on the part of the American ruling class

they'd won the Cold War, plundered Russia, and brought most of the former Soviet bloc under their influence

they'd largely uprooted progressivism on the domestic front, with the Reagan and Gingrich realignments hurling both parties significantly to the right and collapsing the New Deal Coalition

it was the apex of the American Empire. they had nothing to fear. they ruled the world, and no one could threaten them. no matter what foreign meddling they got up to in the name of imperialism, there was no longer any risk of backlash. their towers of wealth and commerce, the fruits of globalization that were spreading their seeds across the entire world except a few petty and insignificant holdouts, were invincible and inviolable. they sang that it was the End of History, the cultural and technological victory of the best ideology that had ever existed and would ever exist: American capitalism. and that utter comfort and security on the part of the ruling class trickled down to the suburban whites that had long been their footsoldiers. there was no longer any real enemy left to fight. or so they thought

9/11 shattered that illusion in a big way. it showed that even with the Cold War over, the US could still face consequences and backlash against imperialism and globalization. and that backlash didn't just hit poor people who'd been tricked into being soldiers - it hit at the World Trade Center, a massive monument to free trade built in the Financial District of Manhattan. the planes crashed directly into the offices of banks and insurance services companies. the American ruling class had lived in terror of communists for decades, and they had never managed to strike at the sanctuaries of the capitalist class the way a handful of dudes armed with boxcutters had just done

this is why 9/11 was a Big Deal for America in the way that COVID never seemed to be. it was never about the death count, it was about who died and where. it was a knife aimed right at the heart of the banking class. even if OBL wasn't a socialist and didn't give a gently caress about the plight of the American lower classes, he knew exactly which groups the American system really cared about and aimed right for them. the US response to 9/11 made a big point of erasing the class dimension and pretending it was solely about the number of dead, right from the start, but if bin Laden had killed 3,000 black food service workers it wouldn't have been treated as a national tragedy the same way. in fact, I'd argue that it's precisely because ordinary Americans weren't the real target that the US response went to such lengths to play up the idea that everywhere in the country was a potential terrorist target

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Well, really. Let's get a grip here, shall we? True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break. They formed a technocratic corps at the very heart of America's global financial empire – the "mighty engine of profit" to which the military dimension of U.S. policy has always been enslaved – and they did so both willingly and knowingly. Recourse to "ignorance" – a derivative, after all, of the word "ignore" – counts as less than an excuse among this relatively well-educated elite. To the extent that any of them were unaware of the costs and consequences to others of what they were involved in – and in many cases excelling at – it was because of their absolute refusal to see. More likely, it was because they were too busy braying, incessantly and self-importantly, into their cell phones, arranging power lunches and stock transactions, each of which translated, conveniently out of sight, mind and smelling distance, into the starved and rotting flesh of infants. If there was a better, more effective, or in fact any other way of visiting some penalty befitting their participation upon the little Eichmanns inhabiting the sterile sanctuary of the twin towers, I'd really be interested in hearing about it.

The men who flew the missions against the WTC and Pentagon were not "cowards." That distinction properly belongs to the "firm-jawed lads" who delighted in flying stealth aircraft through the undefended airspace of Baghdad, dropping payload after payload of bombs on anyone unfortunate enough to be below – including tens of thousands of genuinely innocent civilians – while themselves incurring all the risk one might expect during a visit to the local video arcade. Still more, the word describes all those "fighting men and women" who sat at computer consoles aboard ships in the Persian Gulf, enjoying air-conditioned comfort while launching cruise missiles into neighborhoods filled with random human beings. Whatever else can be said of them, the men who struck on September 11 manifested the courage of their convictions, willingly expending their own lives in attaining their objectives.

Riot Bimbo posted:

1/6 is nothing, and should be regarded as nothing. you should mock anyone making it out to be something.

making it A Thing only serves the security state and related shitheads~

Aglet56 posted:

it lacks a single iconic image

Toph Bei Fong posted:

Toph Bei Fong posted:

Riot Bimbo posted:

1/6 is nothing, and should be regarded as nothing. you should mock anyone making it out to be something.

making it A Thing only serves the security state and related shitheads~

Feldegast42 posted:

I know cspam shits on Jon Stewart a lot (and not for bad reasons) but him crusading to get 9/11 first responders healthcare was a legit good

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

this is straight wishful thinking. tapping your heels and wishing a bunch of small business owners and cops didnt try to install their strong man with support from members of the government in a self coup because you dont like the reaction its gonna generate doesnt make it unhappen. carrying water for conservatives trying to minimize their failed putsch to avoid any backlash and make it easier to do next time is not going to change anything. its already a thing, youre just in denial

Farm Frenzy posted:

Zeno-25 posted:

https://cryptome.org/ward-churchill.htm

Farm Frenzy posted:

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

this is straight wishful thinking. tapping your heels and wishing a bunch of small business owners and cops didnt try to install their strong man with support from members of the government in a self coup because you dont like the reaction its gonna generate doesnt make it unhappen. carrying water for conservatives trying to minimize their failed putsch to avoid any backlash and make it easier to do next time is not going to change anything. its already a thing, youre just in denial

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

this is straight wishful thinking. tapping your heels and wishing a bunch of small business owners and cops didnt try to install their strong man with support from members of the government in a self coup because you dont like the reaction its gonna generate doesnt make it unhappen. carrying water for conservatives trying to minimize their failed putsch to avoid any backlash and make it easier to do next time is not going to change anything. its already a thing, youre just in denial

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

this is straight wishful thinking. tapping your heels and wishing a bunch of small business owners and cops didnt try to install their strong man with support from members of the government in a self coup because you dont like the reaction its gonna generate doesnt make it unhappen. carrying water for conservatives trying to minimize their failed putsch to avoid any backlash and make it easier to do next time is not going to change anything. its already a thing, youre just in denial

Quetzadilla posted:

1/6 was nothing in the same way that occupy and the George Floyd protests were nothing

Stairmaster posted:

bitmap posted:

this poo poo is 20 years old now and im here getting mad about building 7