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mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
Thought I'd start one of these up as a bit of a catch-all for the poo poo that doesn't fit nicely elsewhere.

Where's everyone watching the game tonight? (trick question watch it at home you fucks)

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Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





mfcrocker posted:

Thought I'd start one of these up as a bit of a catch-all for the poo poo that doesn't fit nicely elsewhere.

Where's everyone watching the game tonight? (trick question watch it at home you fucks)

i'm going to my local irish pub :colbert:



it's me i'm the local irish pub.

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





Jedi Knight Luigi posted:

Dunno where else to put this so in putting it here


i can't find the footage online anymore but when this came out about 3 years ago... people commented without actually watching what happened in the game.

first, it was "Celebrity Poker Showdown" which was one of those Post-Moneymaker Cable Poker Shows that happened because of the poker boom... so its not exactly like the level of play was very high.

jason does make baby noises, and mary comments about "trying" to make her lactate.

then the hand that the post refers to where she lost most of her chips came when she had A4o in the SB vs Jason's JTs on the BTN.

Jason (BTN) J:d:T:d:
Mary (SB) A:h:4:s:
Nic (BB) 7:s:7:h:

Jason raises to $1800
Mary raises to $2900
Nic calls $2100
Jason reraises to $4900
Mary reraises to $7900
Nic folds
Jason calls $300

Flop is 3:c:4:d:T:c:
Mary shoves all in $10800
Jason calls $9700

turn 7:d:, river Q:d: Jason wins with a Q-high diamond flush.

they go to hug but apparently Mary has more chips and she stays in and busts out sometime later with pocket 5s

the footage from when Jason makes the baby sounds was 8 minutes of TV show time, which means there was a much longer time in passing between when he made baby sounds to that actual huge pot.

then during the hand she's also seen holding Jason's hand and when she busts out (or think she does) she goes to hug him and calls him "son of a bitch" in a friendly manner.

so yeah this post is kinda bogus

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer

Strong Sauce posted:

i can't find the footage online anymore but when this came out about 3 years ago... people commented without actually watching what happened in the game.

first, it was "Celebrity Poker Showdown" which was one of those Post-Moneymaker Cable Poker Shows that happened because of the poker boom... so its not exactly like the level of play was very high.

jason does make baby noises, and mary comments about "trying" to make her lactate.

then the hand that the post refers to where she lost most of her chips came when she had A4o in the SB vs Jason's JTs on the BTN.

Jason (BTN) J:d:T:d:
Mary (SB) A:h:4:s:
Nic (BB) 7:s:7:h:

Jason raises to $1800
Mary raises to $2900
Nic calls $2100
Jason reraises to $4900
Mary reraises to $7900
Nic folds
Jason calls $300

Flop is 3:c:4:d:T:c:
Mary shoves all in $10800
Jason calls $9700

turn 7:d:, river Q:d: Jason wins with a Q-high diamond flush.

they go to hug but apparently Mary has more chips and she stays in and busts out sometime later with pocket 5s

the footage from when Jason makes the baby sounds was 8 minutes of TV show time, which means there was a much longer time in passing between when he made baby sounds to that actual huge pot.

then during the hand she's also seen holding Jason's hand and when she busts out (or think she does) she goes to hug him and calls him "son of a bitch" in a friendly manner.

so yeah this post is kinda bogus

lol when I first saw someone post that I thought it was just a shitpost I didn't realize they were being serious at all

what a hand history also. very good poker play going on by all sides.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
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Someone in Cinema Discusso found this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlwE51tDS5Y

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





lol speaking of jason alexander:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvjuL6Bci6M



holy poo poo queueing this up. up he gets as sauced as he was in those wine commercials.

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/1358488156472016899

0/11

Peggotty
May 9, 2014

Always a smart choice to figure out one way the game could go and then make 11 different bets on the game playing out exactly like that.

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


since the weather is poo poo we decided to use pokernow.club to play and this happened

20:44 -- starting hand #61 (No Limit Texas Hold'em) (dealer: Tee) --

20:44 Player stacks: #6 Nicholas (9100) | #8 JSchlang (8300) | #9 Tee (3850)

20:44 Nicholas posts a small blind of 150

20:44 JSchlang posts a big blind of 300

20:44 Tee calls 300

20:44 Nicholas folds

20:45 JSchlang checks

20:45 Flop: [K:s:, A:d:, J:h:]

20:45 JSchlang checks

20:46 Tee checks

20:46 Turn: K:s:, A:d:, J:h: [K:h:]

20:46 JSchlang checks

20:46 Tee bets 400

20:46 JSchlang calls 400

20:46 River: K:s:, A:d:, J:h:, K:h: [Q:h:]

20:47 JSchlang checks

20:47 Tee bets 650

20:47 JSchlang raises to 1300

20:47 Tee calls 1300

20:47 JSchlang shows a A:h:, 10:h:.

20:47 JSchlang collected 4150 from pot with Royal Flush (combination: A:h:, K:h:, Q:h:, J:h:, 10:h:)


i'm still reeling. holy poo poo

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





cebrail posted:

Always a smart choice to figure out one way the game could go and then make 11 different bets on the game playing out exactly like that.

Some people just don't like to hedge :shrug:


this was not as good as his wine commercial outtakes. haha

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


there's no way that mary mccormack story is real is it?

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.

Beamed posted:

there's no way that mary mccormack story is real is it?

did you read anything past that post

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





So I found some random Mary McCormack fan website that had the clips. Literally the only source of this left on the Internet short of Bravo releasing a 15 year old tv show they probably get very little revenue from. I put it up on YouTube as a unlisted link but I'm guessing sooner or later it'll get taken down.

Also I want to clarify, when I said there was 8 minutes of TV show time between his baby noises and the big pot. I actually meant her bust out hand as you can see from the clips, he was doing it during the hand.

First one is the actual hand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7oPZPtzYC0

This is her bust out hand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7If565sZsc

Fake Edit: I can't get the clips to play inline, so you'll have to click through to YouTube.

TheKevman
Dec 13, 2003
I thought Mad Max: Fury Road was
:mediocre:
so you should probably ignore anything else I say

Strong Sauce posted:

So I found some random Mary McCormack fan website that had the clips. Literally the only source of this left on the Internet short of Bravo releasing a 15 year old tv show they probably get very little revenue from. I put it up on YouTube as a unlisted link but I'm guessing sooner or later it'll get taken down.

Also I want to clarify, when I said there was 8 minutes of TV show time between his baby noises and the big pot. I actually meant her bust out hand as you can see from the clips, he was doing it during the hand.

First one is the actual hand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7oPZPtzYC0

This is her bust out hand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7If565sZsc

Fake Edit: I can't get the clips to play inline, so you'll have to click through to YouTube.

Holy poo poo the angliest of angles

DOOMocrat
Oct 2, 2003

I love my copag four colors for home games but would like a thicker cardstock because my dumb bone hands are bad at shuffling. Anyone know if Bicycle/Hoyle are still making decent looking 4-colors post poker boom? All I can find are the super large print for seniors & looks like tattoo art for collectors ones; I really just want a regular deck in four colors.

CellBlock
Oct 6, 2005

It just don't stop.



DOOMocrat posted:

I love my copag four colors for home games but would like a thicker cardstock because my dumb bone hands are bad at shuffling. Anyone know if Bicycle/Hoyle are still making decent looking 4-colors post poker boom? All I can find are the super large print for seniors & looks like tattoo art for collectors ones; I really just want a regular deck in four colors.

I don’t know what the thickness is like, but Faded Spade cards are pretty highly regarded.

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





lol at this hand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhZo_cuH_hU

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:



It really looks like Hellmuth managed to talk him into folding there. What the hell

Baddog
May 12, 2001
It got taken down real fast, any other source?

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





https://streamable.com/e/h5so95

Baddog
May 12, 2001

Hellmuth! That's pretty loving crazy.

All the table talk there and side bets would put me on so much tilt. I guess its "good tv". Maybe they all have pieces of each other and no one really gives much of a poo poo besides collecting the tv appearance fee.

Bill Door
Dec 30, 2008

That's insane, as someone who barely understands solvers how often is one folding there?

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





Bill Door posted:

That's insane, as someone who barely understands solvers how often is one folding there?

doug polk says its a bad fold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNn6ht8dPOA

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.

Bill Door posted:

That's insane, as someone who barely understands solvers how often is one folding there?

this had nothing to do with solvers lol

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.



Holy poo poo. What prompted Hellmuth to talk like that?

e: I mean I watched it, it's just, he's usually better than that, unless he lost a hand and is raging :v:

Bill Door
Dec 30, 2008

MY INEVITABLE DEBT posted:

this had nothing to do with solvers lol

I know! I just kinda wanted to know if this is literally 100% a call if Hellmuth doesn't talk.

Victory Lap
Feb 25, 2001

Bill Door posted:

I know! I just kinda wanted to know if this is literally 100% a call if Hellmuth doesn't talk.

Yeah if you're always folding the 2nd nuts to huge overbets that can be exploited and a solver would have an issue with that.

I'm pretty sure Doug was thinking the range he was against was exactly QT before Phil started talking, though the talking definitely didn't help his cause.

Victory Lap fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Mar 5, 2021

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

lmao that owns

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I think 50% he was gonna fold anyway but Hellmuth put his finger on the balance. And I'm not surprised either because Hellmuth being a jackass to his own detriment should never surprise anyone.

Oswald Kesselpot
Jan 14, 2008

HONK HONK HONK
That was a great lay down, I'm sure influenced by Polk's knowledge of Helmuth (and Helmuth talking like a fool), but I’m not so sure it was the correct play in the long run. I cant imagine that the money you save when you are right in these situations makes up for the money you lose when you end up folding the winner. Sets, 2 pair, maybe a broken draw, the same hand, or even just a flat out bluff are all at least possible, and I think it’s more likely that the villain has one of those as him having the 1 hand that beats you.

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





i think it helps that

the raise was huge
there was another player, so it makes it harder for phil to have complete air.
doug doesn't think phil does this with a set.

so given that its hard for phil to be bluffing and he's not bluffing with something like a set. the remaining hands are something like

QT, T7, AsTs-AsKs (no AsJs obv), As8s.

and he's about 30% to win the hand against the range.

i don't think he's worried about the long run EV of folding T7 here. he is obviously not going to fold T7 here often but i think the situation didn't really add up for him and phil just blabbing made him fold. i think there was a chance doug calls if phil stays completely silent even with all the signals.

don't get me wrong, what an amazing laydown. i think most people in that situation would gladly call without hesitation. the play was just awful by hellmuth though. if he just raises it a normal amount doug's probably losing a lot more.

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.
love to watch guys who havent seen 90k lifetime post about how they would have played this nosebleed hand better

yea man if you fold this at nl100 it's really bad but this is phil hellmuth shoving 95k into 20k instantly and doug polk is better than you

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Strong Sauce posted:

the play was just awful by hellmuth though. if he just raises it a normal amount doug's probably losing a lot more.

yeah if phil raises like 3x, doug probably re-raises on the flop and they get it all in either right there or on any non-spade turn card that doesn't pair the board

ProperCauldron
Oct 11, 2004

nah chill
What's a decent site to play online poker these days? I've been out of it for ~10 years but I'm looking to get back in to it. I enjoy and focus on NL Texas Hold Em tournament play. I'm not interested in any bitcoin site.

TheJunkyardGod
Sep 19, 2004

Do not taunt the Octopus
I get its tv but that table talk is so out of line.

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.

ProperCoochie posted:

What's a decent site to play online poker these days? I've been out of it for ~10 years but I'm looking to get back in to it. I enjoy and focus on NL Texas Hold Em tournament play. I'm not interested in any bitcoin site.

tournaments youll find more volume on America's Cardroom and theres also some on Ignition/Bovada and theres a site called Global Poker that has a few

I Brake For MILFs
Jan 9, 2007

:syoon:


TheJunkyardGod posted:

I get its tv but that table talk is so out of line.

Speaking of table talk, do you guys prefer to be quiet and watch people or are y'all talkers? I feel like there's certain spots you can pick to get an edge if you say one or two things, but I generally keep it quiet while i'm in a hand. I never really understood people saying, "hey get out of the hand, I got you" or "big hand alert" or some poo poo like that.

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


I Brake For MILFs posted:

Speaking of table talk, do you guys prefer to be quiet and watch people or are y'all talkers? I feel like there's certain spots you can pick to get an edge if you say one or two things, but I generally keep it quiet while i'm in a hand. I never really understood people saying, "hey get out of the hand, I got you" or "big hand alert" or some poo poo like that.

The group I play with regularly has plenty of banter but everyone knows not to interfere with the actual hands. I think everyone would think you were a colossal dick if you started coaching on a hand you weren't involved in

Baddog
May 12, 2001

I Brake For MILFs posted:

Speaking of table talk, do you guys prefer to be quiet and watch people or are y'all talkers? I feel like there's certain spots you can pick to get an edge if you say one or two things, but I generally keep it quiet while i'm in a hand. I never really understood people saying, "hey get out of the hand, I got you" or "big hand alert" or some poo poo like that.

I'm quiet as hell playing live, besides just making some idle chitchat with the guys next to me. Making friends with the guys next to you might be a little advantageous. But I think I'd give up more info than I get if I tried to roleplay some angleshooting dumbass.

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I Brake For MILFs
Jan 9, 2007

:syoon:


PIZZA.BAT posted:

The group I play with regularly has plenty of banter but everyone knows not to interfere with the actual hands. I think everyone would think you were a colossal dick if you started coaching on a hand you weren't involved in

Yea, the dealer should shut that poo poo down pretty quick. But, it's hard to explain to drunk people that folding out of turn actually matters, counting your chip stack while there is 4 people waiting to act matters. Live poker is wild sometimes.

Of course, if you're a big tipper and you're dumping cash on the table left and right you can basically do everything wrong in the game and no one will say poo poo.


I'm mostly talking about poo poo like trying to gain an informational edge heads-up in a hand. do you all find that it's worth it ?

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