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Premise: I always enjoyed the old Football Manager LPs on that other subforum, and this is a really compelling offseason for my abusive relationship with a certain football team. They have a stud young QB, an utter inability to protect him, and a lot of cap space and draft capital. The intent of this thread is to serve as a running commentary on the offseason up until the draft. Eagle eyed readers might deduce I wrote a couple of these segments prior to today, I waffled on posting this. At the point of the draft I will take over and make selections in place of the real team. At that point I will post a review of the offseason and return in a year to review whether my selections would have been more successful than the real world equivalent. Let me introduce the characters: Cincinatti Bangles: A hard-luck football franchise with questionable coaching and ownership. Recent string of losing seasons after the long and competant-ish* reign of a former coach. The new staff is attempting to put their own spin on the franchise, but the jury is (actually not-all-that) out on them being worse than the prior regime. The wild card is they have a QB with a spectacular ceiling. Last year they started his rookie season with the premise that they had enough pass protection to stop him from literally dying on the field and were -technically- correct. They also have plenty of talent at skill positions. They have a miserable offensive line, suspect coaching, no pass rush, and concerns in the secondary. Cincinatti’s three-man front office includes: Eifert Posting: The sole team scout, responsible for internal player evaluation and draft prep. Can not make personnel moves, cuts, or draft day trades. Does not even actually watch much college football. If he did things like that the team wouldn’t pay what it would cost to employ him. Eifert posting:
Mikey: Is solely responsible for Free Agency selections, staffing, and trades. Mikey:
Lapp Hahm: Head of media relations. Lapp:
Other notable characters: A six-foot-high pile of 300 pound men: Bangles Star Quarterback Joe Burrow lives under these men. The fans: In terms of unrest are somewhere between 1904 Imperial Russia and 1917 Imperial Russia. If the Bangles don’t sign offensive linemen early in free agency buy stock for whoever makes pitchforks and torches. Up Next: Breakdown of Internal free agents
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Ok, I’ve made a list of our outgoing free agent class. Now, I know you’ve been reluctant to pay anyone until now because the cap is unknown – Yes, that’s the reason. But these are guys that we should work on retaining. We need a long-term deal:
Should be re-signed
Luxory re-signing after unrestricted free agency:
Don’t care, can’t even be bothered to write a blurb:
Please don’t:
I swear to god, if you even call this man:
And potential roster moves who are not free agents: Long term deal:
Cut options:
Ok, so that’s the run down, what do you think? ... Well, William Jackson, Mackenzie Alexander and Carl Lawson won’t sign long term deals because they hate our DC Oh, you mean the DC that put them all in bad positions, hasn’t done anything at any point in his career to justify his position, has had multiple sources say he was abusive and dismissive of the players, and should have been fired? That DC? Yes. Well if you don’t franchise Carl I’ll be apoplectic. Anyway, if we had fired him who takes that job? Our head coach is on borrowed time. Why not fire him too? Everyone knows it’s illegal to fire head coaches before their first hundred games. We also only have so much cap space 6th most in the league prior to cuts and a QB on a rookie deal. Anyway, about LeShaun Sims… Future plans: ~3/15/21 is the next major update. It will be the roster chart and priority chart for free agency. I will pop in with blurbs for any significant roster moves. The actual interactive part of the offseason starts after the first few days of Free Agency, where I’ll start breaking down my draft plans and interesting prospects.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 00:25 |
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Can I have a cartoon face character guy? I'm the Dallas Cowdoys
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 22:34 |
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Alright, so it’s time to discuss free agency. Weird that you waited until after the first day to discuss it. Yeah… “weird.” Anyway, as usual gently caress you for not franchising Lawson. We hope to sign him in FA. Are you gonna pay him like a top 10 End? He doesn’t deserve that deal. One of the 31 other teams will disagree with you. So breaking down the roster, I have rated all the existing players using the following rating: Exceptional is a player who would start for virtually any team and is a significant improvement from an average starter. A quality player is a noticeable improvement on the average, a top 10 guy at his role. Average is a player who is not a problem, inadequate is a problem. An unknown player, unless otherwise stated, is someone who could be either adequate or inadequate. Exceptional potential means that the player has a floor as a quality player but could be a true blue chip. Potential quality is a guy who has a floor of adequate but could be quality. I have separated my starters from my backups. Some players exist as starters and as backups, if there’s a realistic chance of them being ether. Defense is broken up at the line for run and pass defense, as there are players on the roster who are significantly better at run defense and I wanted to reflect that. We are missing multiple starters on the Offensive line. Depending on where you rate Tee, we are also lacking a true #1 or #2. I personally think Tee and Boyd are good enough that we can get away with a less capable wide receiver alongside them, as long as they are a real deep threat. We also need depth on the offensive line, but I don’t hate our existing options at line as backups. The biggest problem is that no one on the entire roster plays naturally at right guard. Our defense would look relatively OK IF we had retained WJIII and Lawson. If that had been the case really slot and edge would be our only screaming needs. They’re both probably out the door. As is we have no effective pass rusher. DJ Reader has the potential to be a solid interior rusher and there’s a chance Atkins bounces back, but on the outside everyone on the roster is a run specialist. We badly need ends. Our linebacker room has a lot of potential, I am bullish on Marcus Bailey. Our depth at D is lamentable. Outside interior defensive line I wouldn’t feel good having more than one or two of these guys on a 53. To be tolerable as a team to watch we need to find at least adequate starters at five or six positions. We do not have a right guard, right tackle, slot corner, deep boundary receiver, edge (honestly we need two ends) and slot corner. The #1 priority is stopping Burrow from having to play with a 1 second pocket again. Realistically we could have an incredibly productive draft and Free Agency and still be an uncompetitive franchise next year. I would focus on fixing the offense, that would give us 3 years to figure out the D on Joe’s rookie deal. I’d sign multiple OL, at least one guard and tackle and still draft at least one 1-3 round OL. Tre is not a bad starter, but he had an ACL week 17. We are going to need multiple receivers by the end of the offseason, so signing a speedy guy with a reasonable contract should be the second biggest priority. After that you look at end and corner. Essential Free Agents:
***************** I just don’t see this roster being 8-8 even in a best case scenario. We need to raise the defense past a level where joe is throwing the ball 70 times a game, but I can’t see us making them good this year. Lou says otherwise. He is, was, and will be utterly incompetant. If we find a decent guard and tackle we can avoid having Joe literally die on the field, and that’s honestly the best we can realistically hope for. We can draft Sewell and a guard. Everyone and their mother will know we want Sewell. If we don’t have an answer at OL we’re begging to be sniped, anyways OL are rarely day one starters and we have terrible luck with rookie injuries. It just sucks that we couldn’t snag Zeitler, but I’m sure we at least made a competitive offer. Yes I agree, incidentally don’t look at twitter. https://twitter.com/TheTylerDragon/status/1371599061548142592 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff Free Agency wrap up ~4/1 Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Mar 21, 2021 |
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: So Free agency is wrapping up, and here’s the summary: Presumed starter:
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: And here’s the updated visualization of the roster Backup defense: Backup offense: Starting defense: Starting offense: : This is a failure. : What? We were super active, look how much better your stupid little chart looks now! : You gave Lou 10 bodies, including the only multi-year contracts we issued. You gave a whopping 4 external free agents to Lou -JUST IN THE SECONDARY- while giving our offense one external free agent on a one year deal. I’m not even going to bother breaking down the defense, we broke the bank to give a terrible coordinator the pieces to run a zone D without a pass rush. : Riley Reiff is a good player at a position of need. : He’s a good player at a position of need, meanwhile we don’t have a single natural right guard on the entire roster. In addition to that we don’t have a single receiver on the roster capable of stretching the field. : The draft is how we address the offense. We can get a guard or a tackle and a receiver. People didn’t take our offers at OL. : Multiple linemen have said or have had their people say we lowballed them. : No one should pay more than four million a year for a guard. : God I hate you, I bet you try to haggle at the grocer- ah who am I kidding, you haven’t gone to a store yourself probably in 40 years. : So, moving on to the draft, what you have done is weirdly spectacular. All inclinations are that we will have our pick of Chase or Sewell at 5. They’re both arguably generational talents at major needs. What you’ve done is turn one of the most fortunate situations a team has had in the draft in years into a situation where we look stupid no matter what we do. : It’s Chase. : If we pick Chase people will rightly crucify us for seemingly deliberately looking to get our quarterback killed. And they’ll be entirely correct. If we pick Sewell there is not a clear separator on the roster, which means Joe holds the ball longer, which means the line will look worse while it’s developing. It’s somehow a lose/lose despite the fact that two people seemingly made for us are probably available. God I hate your asinine ideas on player value. : There is way better depth on offensive line in this draft than at receiver. : I agree with you, and I’ll get into that, but we’re going to need to find, at a minimum, one starter. I will not feel good without two, a right AND left guard. ZSF is not an average starter, he’s also got massive injury concerns. Isaiah Prince and Hakeem Adeniji MIGHT be OK depth, POTENTIALLY. Williams and Hopkins both have major availability concerns. We’re past the point where we control our own destiny on the line, honestly, even if we do sell out on it in the draft. : Chase will do more for our team both now and in the future than a right tackle would in Sewell. : We think Williams is destined to be the LT forever, RIGHT NOW. I don’t disagree that when healthy he’s been a solid pass blocker. I’m not married to him at LT through 2035. : Listen, you want Chase or bust at 5? Go get Trai Turner. He’s not clearly a good starter anymore, but he’s not BAD and it’s a good backup in case we don’t find a plug and play guy at 38. You sign Trai and I will be 100% on board with Chase at 5 and the best fat man left at 38. Until then Jury’s out. : Will he take a 2 million dollar deal? Up next: General overview of draft and goals. ~4/10
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# ? Apr 1, 2021 23:41 |
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OK, so we’ve gotten to the actual point of this exercise now, the Cincinatti Bangles draft class of 2021. Everything up until now was to provide context for the simul-draft we’ll be running in late April. It’s worth re-hashing the way the draft will work:
The big conversation for the Bangles is Sewell vs Chase. I personally like Pitts as much or more than Chase in a vacuum, but due to the needs on the roster Chase makes more sense for us. After the line our biggest need is someone on the periphery who can drive coverage down the field and make for softer defenses in the box and in the intermediate parts of the field. Pitts likely can do that, but I expect Chase will be superior at it. I personally would be in favor of a trade down to 10 or 11 if available. I like both Slater and Vera-Tucker and one would be there. I would LOVE to have an extra two and three in this class. Pitts doesn’t make sense for us at this time. I also have no intention of trading down, the team needs blue chip players more than it needs a large and unpredictable draft class that may not have any stand-outs. I’m absolutely on board with sticking and picking, and I also expect one or both of Sewell and Chase to be there. Depending on the outcome at #5 overall my remaining strategy doesn’t change much. If it’s Chase I can tell you right now the #38 will be O-line, ideally a plug and play guard. If it’s Sewell I’m almost certainly taking a guard with the #38, but it does open the draft up if someone I like falls. I don’t like the day 2 receivers, but I like some day 3 guys. I see the priorities of this draft class as follows: Mandatory:
Developmental center, TE (receiving), 3rd down back -thanks for cutting Gio without needing the money, assholes-, backup QB, nickel corner depth, developmental guard, slot receiver depth I consider it absolutely necessary to come away with two linemen who can be expected to play as starters by next year and at least one speed receiver. After that I intend on more or less a BPA philosophy. I am giving the edge to offense, partly as defense was over-represented in Free Agency and partly because the #1 priority is Joe’s development. I see the Chase route as higher in ceiling but a much greater risk. Up next: priority players
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 22:45 |
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Is he gone? That guy never shuts up, huh? Lapp Ham here, and as long as Mike keep slipping me the key to the draft room I’ll be giving you the inside information on the Bangles draft board. I’m sure there would be a ton of caveats about it not being a finished product, but let’s talk about how this… product got made and how to read it. This guy trawled a bunch of public sources of boards and scouting websites (he’s got some weird hangup with the NFL website, don’t ask) and averaged the boards and player rankings to create a master expected draft order. He says in the week prior to the draft he’s going to add a bunch more rankings and update the existing ones. He then went position to position, and summarized a couple different sources for write-ups on each prospect. He says if he’s not finding something to distract him the ants “go from crawling to biting,” so that’s probably why he’s spent a couple dozen hours on this project. He then ranked them by round he’d currently be comfortable taking each prospect by and gave a letter ranking to narrow it down to a big board (with one larger list with prospects he wants to look deeper into but doesn’t intend to include at this time). Eventually these two rankings will be replaced by a single ranking. My understanding is that he hasn’t given a firm ranking to this board yet. He also just got the big scouting PDF from the Athletic that he believes will heavily alter/influence his current rankings. Without any more explanation, here’s the entire board: Have a great night, everyone.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 22:55 |
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I love this thread
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 18:39 |
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Also just posting to say I am reading and enjoying this thread.
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# ? Apr 16, 2021 19:45 |
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Appreciated. I was actually planning on posting my breakdown of the offensive prospects tonight but at some point I realized I'd accidentally deleted my breakdown on guards. Maybe that's what happened to our free agency? Tomorrow night.
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# ? Apr 19, 2021 01:44 |
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: ... And then as I'm looking at my finishing touches for my WRs I realize I had accidentally deleted all of my write ups for guard. : I've told you at least six times that I don't care. : and then as I'm re-writing the guards, bear in mind position groups take a good 90 minutes, someone shows me a thing from one of my sources where he has this super bigoted "mock draft" for Emmit Smith where the joke is just a few hundred typos. : Oh, yeah, Walter Football is awful, everyone knows that. : ... You don't use the internet. : I am part of everyone. : I didn't have a ton of respect for his opinions but I don't like only having two sources for analysis, will just have to figure something out. I've got my board ordered for my offensive position players. https://thedraftnetwork.com/bigboard/IPEA3vJ6Hv I have a few clusters that I'm not certain of: Toney/Bateman/Marshall, WR If I go Sewell round one I think it's very possible one of these guys is available at the 38. At this point I prefer Marshall, but I don't anticipate that Toney is limited to the slot and I don't hate Bateman. If Leatherwood and Jenkins are gone and one or more of these players are available I would be very tempted, however at this moment if multiple are available I'm not certain who I'd favor. Carman/Mayfield/Radunz, OT/G I could see a couple of these players available round 3 and I don't have much to differentiate them. They all seem fairly developmental. I think I favor Radunz. Schwartz/Fehoko/Smith-Marsette/Imatorbhebhe, WR My favorite of the non-first round receivers is probably Nico Collins. That said, these guys all have interesting potential as developmental players. I think I prefer S-M and Imatorbhebhe, but I have no idea where S-M goes and I feel like I would overdraft Imatorbhebhe as I see everything from 3rd round to undrafted. Notable ommisions: I took some players off my board due to injury concerns Injury: Dickerson, Friermuth Some players that are considered prestige picks I left off my board in the first place: Waddle - At that draft position I want a more complete route runner Darrisaw - I can't see him outlasting Leatherwood, who I would take over him Eichenberg - I've seen some concerns he might struggle outside left tackle, and they make sense to me. And there are some linemen I may add to my board: Cosmi - I find him redundant compared to players on my board already Davis - Ohio state offensive line... *shudder* Brown (Northern Iowa) - I feel like he'll be drafted too high for me, I'd like him in 4-5. Cleveland - I likely will add him at some point You'll probably notice I only have 1 QB - an undrafted one at that - 4 HB and 4 TE on my board. It's a combination of need and value. I don't like the TE class, I am loath to spend draft capital on what will likely be the #3 QB, and at HB I like Doaks the most of all the guys I could see myself taking, and he should be undrafted. I will say, if Carter makes it to 4 I will probably take him.
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# ? Apr 20, 2021 01:42 |
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Well, shoot, he posted his own board? Ah well, I was hoping to have the scoop on that but I guess I'll have to settle on his comprehensive notes he used to arrange it. His format is weird, but it boils down to this: Position name, college || age || height weight 40/reps Positional ranking, Positional ranking, Positional ranking 1st source: projected round, Summary 2nd source: projected round, Summary 3rd source: projected round, Summary write up posted:*Snip* : Remember, this is just offensive positions, he's likely to add about 30-35 defensive prospects. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Apr 26, 2021 |
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: I've finished my board. Obviously it will be tweaked but I feel good about it. https://thedraftnetwork.com/bigboard/IPEA3vJ6Hv : I want to try it on a few different mock sites, I used DN as my first resource and it's likely colored my expectations, even though my ordering is significantly different than theirs. I ran two mocks to test them, the rules I set for myself were that I couldn't jump a player with the same position or take a selection more than 4 spots down my board. I intentionally began one with Chase and one with Sewell, and I allowed myself a trade for the second if it was appealing as the Bangles have a history of doing just that. ***** CHASE: 5: Jamarr Chase - likely to be a clear #1 receiver 38: (trade 38 for 46 and 120) 46: Dillon Radunz - G/T, right side, rated higher in pass pro, jury out on ability to start this year 69: Milton Williams - 3DT, Instant quality depth, incredible tools, potential to be a high quality starter 111: Aaron Banks - Compete for start at RG, good scheme fit, likely a limited ceiling 120: Rashad Weaver - Good base end, struggles with pad level, probably limited ceiling, will rotate right away 149: Garret Wallow - solid run defending LB, fits a hole in existing talent, needs to develop 190: Josh Imatorbhebhe - Potential to contribute as a receiver, floor is a quality ST player 202: Shakur Brown - developmental, potential to overplay draft position, our depth is solid, makes sense to take a risk 235: *a kicker* - kickers don't exist in this mock. Dude from Miami, dude from Pitt if Miami was picked. Doaks would have been my selection barring a kicker, UDFA Whop Phylor - WR depth for the slot position Jimmy Morrissey - Backup center, developmental Feleipe Franks - tell me a sad story about a practice squad QB Shawn Davis - Good depth at S Strengths: high potential in this draft class. Between Banks and Radunz someone should be able to fill our hole at RG. pass rush looks promising. Weaknesses: a lot of player I don't believe will fall fell, If Banks isn't able to start Radunz is unlikely to. One end is a risk. Was counting on Doaks to go undrafted but the rear end in a top hat Saints nabbed him. ***** SEWELL: 5 - Penei Sewell - Right side, if he's ready to play tackle he'll play tackle. 38 - Terrace Marshall Jr - capable of stretching the field, made the most sense with the avail players, would have taken Tryon or Leatherwood over him 69 - Milton Williams - Debated him vs Brevin Jordan 111 - Aaron Banks - if he makes it to this pick I'm likely to take him 9 times out of ten, debated Jordan Smith and Ihmir S-M 149 - Rashad Weaver - DN is too low on him, I don't expect him to make the 5th irl 190 - Simi Fehoko - I see him as similar to Imatorbhebhe but with a bit more upside at WR. 202 - Garret Wallow - I really like this guy. Surprised he made it past the 5th, he spent ages as the top projected LB 235: Gerrid Doaks - I like Doaks as a very balanced late round RB, somewhat limited as a receiver, but a very good blocker. UDFA Deommodore Lenoir - Good bottom-of-the-roster zone corner. *a kicker* - Dude from Pitt Willaim Bradley-King- DE depth. Whop Phylor - backup slot Strengths: we should be able to have a solid starting five OL with a quality backup. Marshall, Fehoko and Phylor fill out the WR room nicely. Weaknesses: same lack of depth at end, I was counting on Morrisey to be undrafted for center depth, means Price will be center #2 again this year. ***** : I will say, the trade down was way, way more appealing with the Chase draft, not because there was a wealth of great O-line options but because the only one left (Radunz) that I felt good with was much less likely to go by the mid 40s than Marshall. Without the trade I prefer the Sewell draft, with the trade I probably lean Chase but not by much. : Radunz has the potential to be really good in the gap scheme Zac likes, I think you're dramatically underselling what we can do with Chase as the first pick. : the Chase draft relies on players falling who reliably fall in DN that I doubt will fall in reality. The guys I rely on being there at 111 in that situation on the interior have much higher grades on average. DN has edge players like Weaver and Jordan Smith waaaaay below the trend. : Who the hell is Garret Wallow? : I'm not sold on our options for run defense in space, there are a few guys like Bledsoe, Wallow, Moses and Hufanga who have potential as second level run defenders. Wallow is just the one who seems like the best value at the minute. : I'm bored. Goodnight. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Apr 25, 2021 |
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: Hello, everyone. I don't have much tonight, just this guy's complete notes organized by value. board posted:
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... and they're not that far off. Sua Filo at LG shouldn't be BAD. Hopkins is slated for a day 1 return at center. We just need a RG, that's it. Pollack will improve the existing guys. How did that thought process work last year? Joe holds the ball too long. You're used to Dalton, who averaged the quickest release time in the league. Burrow was right on average in 2020, and if you extrapolate his season out he'd lead the league in QB hits. Joe was holding the ball an appropriate length of time, the line was the problem, full stop. OL at 5 is a waste when you can find a guy at 38, there are - Look at me. - yourself have like 11 people on your board you think could contribute right awa - Look at me. This team is not one receiver away. Zac thinks he can save his job by compiling guys who make a day one impact, but he sucks at internal evaluation. He hired garbage coaches. Turner was not just a stupid decision, it was a transparently stupid decision at the time. Lou is telling you he had a bunch of square pegs for a round hole last year, and I guarantee you he'll have the same excuse next year. Selling out to win now just because those schmucks don't want to get fired is idiotic. I'm fixing the line. Overkill would be great. If Pollack fixes a couple of Turner's mistakes and we cut a viable guy I'm 100% OK with that. A poor offensive line is a difficult thing to resolve and drat near impossible if you refuse to spend in UFA. We'll have 3 years of Burrow's rookie deal left in 2022. If we have a line and he has both knees we'll be able to find a guy to take the top off. That's if we can't hit on a later receiver in this class, which I am not discounting. Your plan has us looking for two starters on the line again next year, that's a recipe to spend years chasing a line and never catching it. And if I'm wrong, and the team is capable of competing next year, Joe is capable of elevating receivers. We should be able to be much more balanced as well without an obvious weak link on the line. So it's Sewell at 5? Yeah. What if he is gone? You just taking Slater? ... You wouldn't trade down, would you? Hell no. Well you could just let me make the calls. The last time I let you near a phone you called Snyder an "incompetent, stale food peddling sex trafficker." Heh, yeah. ... Honestly I'd be tempted to go Pitts. OH FOR gently caress'S SAKE!
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# ? Apr 29, 2021 14:27 |
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Hello everyone. I've been getting a lot less push-back than expected about making these reports, and I have to say, I'm really impressed with how secretive the organization is regarding their board: My role during the draft will be to let y'all know at the top of each round what the current state of the board is and after each selection if anyone was passed over. I'll also be rating the level of salt in the war room, from Lake Erie to Bonneville. I'm sure he will update you after each pick with his own thoughts. Finally he's added a couple people to his board: quote:**** HB Mekhi Sargent, Iowa || || 5’8 208 4.68 **** He's aggregated a bunch of big boards and come up with an average draft position of the top 400 some prospects And his final board (minus kickers)
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# ? Apr 29, 2021 20:32 |
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I just wanna say that Wyatt Davis is the name of the best RT in my Madden 2005 franchise game and I had to let him go because of cap reasons. Last I checked he's the only RT left in the league with at least a 90 ovr.
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# ? Apr 29, 2021 22:05 |
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With the fifth pick the Bangles take Penei Sewell, fat man, Oregon
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# ? Apr 30, 2021 01:49 |
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Sewell's actual selection: #7
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# ? Apr 30, 2021 02:14 |
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Hello, everyone. We're done with day 1 and onto day two. Overall I would describe the salinity as around the Antarctic ocean, perceptible, but lower than you might expect. Round 1 sees 14 people off the board, the remaining [url=https://thedraftnetwork.com/bigboard/IPEA3vJ6Hv]board[/b] lines up as follows: 1 Tevin Jenkins, OT 2 Terrace Marshall Jr. 3 Wyatt Davis, LG 4 Dillon Radunz T/G 5 Christian Barmore, IDL 6 Kelvin Joseph CB 7 Nick Bolton LB 8 Brevin Jordan TE 9 Jevon Holland S 10 Dyami Brown WR Reading the room I feel like the biggest surprises were that Jenkins lasted through the first round and that so many linebackers were selected.
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# ? Apr 30, 2021 18:16 |
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Eh, that went pretty well. Look at all the linemen still available! We could have easily taken Chase and gotten someone. Yes and no, some of the guys left are guys I have no interest in, and the teams ahead of us still pick. I could see OL being my best option here regardless of the first round, but it's going to depend on the teams ahead of us. two of the 5 teams picking ahead of us have a pressing need at WR and two have a pressing need at OT. Pretty much all 5 could use a WR or OL. I Don't like drafting Cosmi, Eichenberg, Dickerson or Humphry here, so any of them being picked would be a win. Ditto Moore or... well, the other Moore. Even though Jenkins is higher on my board by one selection I probably go Marshall if the entire board is left at 38. If Marshall and Jenkins aren't there I'd be amenable to a trade down, although I could see myself sticking and picking for Barmore. Radunz is fine, you'd almost be hoping he isn't going to pan out at tackle, but I like his potential. I like Davis a little more as a fit, but I think he'd last into the late 40s. The only thing that really hosed us was the late run at edge. That position is really not on the table even with a trade down. Ultimately my guess is that Marshall and Jenkins are gone, but I'd be very happy to be surprised. I'm fine with Bolton or Joseph, but they'd be luxury picks.
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# ? Apr 30, 2021 18:57 |
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I am taking this trade - 46 122 139 Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 00:42 on May 1, 2021 |
# ? May 1, 2021 00:39 |
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The Bangles take Terrance MArshall LSU pick 46
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# ? May 1, 2021 01:07 |
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(Marshall went #59) Going into round 3 the salt is negligible, let's say Lake Erie. He seems to be pretty happy with his board. 1. Wyatt Davis 2. Brevin Jordan 3. Dyami Brown 4. Milton Williams 5. Joseph Ossai 6. Jalen Mayfield 7. Quinn Meinerz 8. Nico Collins 9. Michael Carter 10. Ifeatu Melifonwu
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# ? May 1, 2021 02:35 |
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All that grandstanding any you end up going WR/T He was the best guy on my board and I saw him as a clear 1st round talent. Good work on that trade, though, 2 4ths for 8 spots? Very nice. What's the plan here? Potentially Milton or the best O-line available.
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# ? May 1, 2021 02:35 |
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The Bangles select Milton Williams, DT from LS- wait, there's more than one school in Louisiana?
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# ? May 1, 2021 02:49 |
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(Milton went 73)
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# ? May 1, 2021 03:02 |
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Going into round 4 the salt is slightly elevated, about Lake Van. Some guards he was hoping to last into round 4 went early or late day 2, in particular Mayfield, Meinerz, Banks, Cleveland, Carman, Davis. It seemed like one of them might fall. As far as other positions go the draft fell more or less as he thought. 1. Brevin Jordan 2. Michael Carter 3. Brady Christensen 4. Taloa Hufanga 5. Jordan Smith 6. Ihmir Smith-Marsette 7. Hamsah Nasrildeen 8. Simi Fehoko 9. Joshua Bledsoe 10. Trey Smith 11. Dylan Moses 12. Rashad Weaver 13. Kenny Gainwell 14. James Wiggins 15. Kenny Yeboah
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It's a shame we couldn't sneak back into the third for a Davis or Meinerz, but I get wanting the extra picks for depth. Looks like you were way higher on Brevin Jordan than everyone else. Yeah, 110 is probably the first pick where I significantly deviate from my board. Trey Smith and Deonte Brown are the only starter level guards I have left on my board, at least ones who reasonably could do it year one. It's a risk reward thing. They're way up my personal board but my board aggregate has them going around here. It's a risk reward thing. Since we have a very safe pick in Sewell I'm inclined to take the risk here. What about the pass rush? There's almost definitely going to be one I like at 122, but it is a risk. Smith, Weaver, Sample, Cooper, all of them have cause for optimism. If one of my receiver targets is there at 139 I probably pull the trigger, if not I double dip at end.
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# ? May 1, 2021 15:50 |
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At 111 the Bangles select Trey Smith G, Tennessee, who had a life threatening lung issue before it was cool.
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# ? May 1, 2021 17:25 |
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at 122 The Bangles select Rashad Weaver E, Pitt
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# ? May 1, 2021 17:53 |
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At 139 the Bangles take Brevin Jordan TE, Miami after successfully talking him off a ledge for lasting this long.
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# ? May 1, 2021 18:40 |
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Some elevated salt here, getting to Atlantic range. He had talked himself into taking Carter just as the Jets picked him, And he had to delete his selection for Smith as he went a pick before his. Brevin making it to 139 seemed to cheer him up a bit. 1. Brady Christensen 2. Taloa Hufanga 3. Ihmir Smith-Marsette 4. Hamsah Nasrildeen 5. Simi Fehoko 6. Joshua Bledsoe 7. Dylan Moses 8. Kenny Gainwell 9. James Wiggins 10. Kenny Yeboah
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# ? May 1, 2021 18:49 |
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It makes too much sense here to take IMS, he's a great value here. Can he play special teams? Probably not, but eh, he'd be the 4 or 5. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 22:51 on May 1, 2021 |
# ? May 1, 2021 18:55 |
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With 149 The Bangles buy insurance by drafting Ihmir Smith-Marsette, WR, Iowa.
Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 19:15 on May 1, 2021 |
# ? May 1, 2021 19:03 |
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(Weaver went 135, Jordan went 141, Smith-Marsette went 157) There was a late run on guys high on his board, but he seems fine, as he's happy with his available options. Probably back down to Arctic Ocean salinity. Note he missed that Christensen got drafted in the third. 1. Hamsah Nasrildeen 2. Joshua Bledsoe 3. Dylan Moses 4. James Wiggins 5. Kenny Yeboah 6. Jonathan Cooper 7. Josh Imatorbhebhe 8. Deonte Brown 9. Drake Jackson 10. Rico Bussey JR 11. Shakur Brown
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# ? May 1, 2021 20:40 |
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I'd like Cooper here, but I can't pass on Nasrildeen if he makes it to 190. Cooper probably jumps the line after that and Bledsoe would be my option at 202. I also like Hilliard and Imatorbhebhe here. yeah OK whatever.
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# ? May 1, 2021 20:43 |
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THE JETS CAN GO gently caress THEMSELVES while the Bangles at 190 take Jonathan Cooper, E tOSU Carter and Hamsah, bastards. And then of course NE takes Bledsoe. I'm not mad you're mad. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 21:16 on May 1, 2021 |
# ? May 1, 2021 20:54 |
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With pick 202 the Bangles take Dylan Moses, LB, Bama
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# ? May 1, 2021 21:24 |
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# ? May 8, 2024 05:04 |
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We're somewhere between the Pacific and the Dead Sea here, he was real mad about Nasrildeen. James Wiggins Kenny Yeboah Josh Imatorbhebhe Drake Jackson Rico Bussey JR Shakur Brown Darius Stills Jonathan Adams Justin Hilliard Tariq Thompson
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# ? May 1, 2021 22:44 |