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Oct 9, 2005


Why is this thread marked as temporary?

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Oct 9, 2005


BougieBitch posted:

This could easily be the "Milkshake Duck Thread: you don't, in fact, 'gotta hand it to em""

It definitely rules that one of the big lefty idols in D&D/C-SPAM is, or more accurately today, was, a fascist-repping transphobic libertarian.

I didn't even know about the transphobe poo poo until this thread and I still hated the guy.

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Oct 9, 2005


SpiritOfLenin posted:

what the gently caress are you going on about?

This thread has been one heck of a honeypot.

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Oct 9, 2005


Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

But they have guests like Greenwald, Taibbi, and rogan.

Oh wow a triple threat.

Taibbi's a guy I read from time to time but seems like the real reason he hates the media is that he was never getting invited to the good parties.

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Oct 9, 2005


I feel like we're reading too much into the guy. After a point you know who is buttering your bread.

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Oct 9, 2005


I don't know how often Visa actually fucks with people. When you make a surcharge on virtually every transaction in the world I don't know how much you want to upset that apple cart. The credit card companies only started messing with Pornhub when it became clear there was just an unchecked torrent of underage porn to be had there.

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Oct 9, 2005


FlamingLiberal posted:

There were a lot of Democrats who wanted to crack down on 'violent/offensive media' in the 90s. You had Clinton, Tipper Gore, Joe Lieberman, etc. Thankfully that never went very far and people like Jack Thompson have kind of disappeared into disgrace.

The difference now is that the industry is gigantically bigger than it was even then and it's not such a soft target when the right pockets are being lined.

Sort of like McCain going after UFC because it represented a threat to boxing.

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Oct 9, 2005


Still Dismal posted:

This is basically it. The Brazil poo poo impacted him personally so he (rightfully!) treated it as incredibly dire and serious story. He doesn’t live in the US anymore, so things like Trump, the Jan 6 riot, etc. get laughed off as the hysterical cringe succdems being owned.

Greenwald is the end stage of the edgy contrarianism you see in some places that’s purportedly leftist, but is honestly just anti-liberal establishment above all else.

I like to think that even if I were sipping wine on a French vineyard right now I'd have more empathy than a fascist transphobe who's been riding on Edward Snowden's work for years now. Certainly if not that I would have the intellectual honesty to draw a straight line from Bolsonaro to Trump. I don't think a journalist worth a drat would be getting into hourly slapfights on Twitter as it is.

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Grammarchist posted:

Back when "being gay" was controversial I knew plenty of libertarians who would "boldly" state that they personally didn't have any problem with LGBT people and didn't agree with state action against them. They'd still spend most of their time attacking the left, and LGBT activists, for being hysterical on the matter and would take severe umbrage at being called out for supporting conservative leaders. Naturally they've moved on to focusing really hard on "Trans extremism" while still insisting they're personally okay with "good ones."

Basically early era South Park where they "hate conservatives, but really hate liberals."

Essentially, particularly in the case of libertarians, professing not to care about LGBT people one way or the other does not make you an advocate, especially when in practice your behavior and words are no different from a conservative's.

I'm reminded that most of the work on LGBT rights was done by the actual advocates while, so far as I can tell, libertarians accomplished nothing in this arena.

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hbag posted:

i have no loving clue who this guy is and i cant tell is the cspam thread is loving with me or not

A lot of C-SPAM is for people who are too online and and/or have terminal irony poisoning.

Glenn is a reporter who co-founded The Intercept, an anti-establishment government/media affairs news site, and helped Edward Snowden release his leaks. This earned him the lasting loyalty of many people who hate establishment politics.

Glenn is a libertarian contrarian and in the years after the Snowden stuff has slowly alienated most of the leftist audience who glommed onto him by making it clear what a libertarian actually is and how dumb they are at the end of the day. He goes on Tucker Carlson and says moron poo poo a lot. He spends an inordinate amount of time getting into slapfights on Twitter where a lot of his other moron poo poo gets said. He uses his columns to essentially launder Trump talking points for his disaffected-from-mainstream-politics audience.

It has taken a long time for certain goons to come to grips with this.

He was essentially ousted from the Intercept after years of a growing rift, which finally came to a head over attempting to report Trump campaign disinformation as news. In the meanwhile the Intercept also burned some of its sources and helped get them sent to jail, which is bad when you are a website that openly encourages you to leak sensitive material to them that may get you thrown in jail if anyone finds out. Glenn was incorrectly blamed for this, as his position as editor was increasingly ceremonial.

Glenn now posts on substack which is basically Patreon for journalists who can't or don't want to get jobs in the industry anymore but have a devoted following. He lives in Brazil and has exposed corruption in the Bolsonaro regime, for which he has made enemies in Brazil.

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