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If you want to call it genocide then everything should be called genocide. It's insane that a mention of China gets a "bu bu genocide" as some kind of an own when USA is carrying out multiple genocides by the same standard. Edit: Also obviously this applies to Canada and other countries. I am not keeping a running taly of all the genocides they are doing. It's probably a lot. Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 19:09 on Mar 24, 2021 |
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Gringostar posted:is anyone in cspam not actively calling out what the us is doing along it’s southern boarder to migrants genocide? The econ thread I got probed was derailed because some d&d poster made a "lul genocide" comment. It took a few hours for someone to take that bait but the thread broke down into projection and poo poo flinging. It was purely ideological and there was no discussion because everyone already firmly made up their minds. This is how it started. Thorn Wishes Talon posted:china is going to gently caress us very hard and they won't even have to lift a finger to do it Accretionist posted:Uncle Xi, my country yearns for leadership Thorn Wishes Talon posted:Uncle Xi's idea of leadership is to genocide dissenters though, so you're gonna have to be on your best behavior! Maybe I am just imagining it, but to me it seems like some poster from America getting a bit defensive and the whole derail wasn't in good faith from the start. So I don't see how you can expect everyone to make effort good faith posts all the time when one side just makes dumb poo poo posts and you get probed for disagreeing with them.
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Gringostar posted:bolded the problem for you Yeah the problem is that all of the above happened in a cspam thread.
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Mar 24, 2021 22:22
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THS posted:hopefully this is a honeypot and tomorrow we all get perma-banned. finally free
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Mar 25, 2021 19:33
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I don't think you need to have a single source you can trust. The same way the whole genocide argument is dubious due to a few questionable sources, it would also be more believable if there were reports from a large number of more believable individuals or outlets. There really doesn't need to be one person that says "This is exactly what is happening" and we trust them. It's not like the narrative for "America is hostile to China" is based on a single piece of evidence. It's just a pattern you can see form over past several years with mass media stories and people serving in the military talking about how that's the future enemy.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:he works for the organization that lists the nazis as victims of communism At least they are right about something.
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Mar 25, 2021 22:26
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THS posted:read posts on reddit (dont read reddit) and the uhh “discourse” on china is quite something Seems like the usual blood lust and war mongering to me.
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Mar 26, 2021 00:03
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Dustcat posted:I'm taking care to say "cultural genocide" now because that's been a big point of confusion that angries up people's blood. I think you're talking about cultural genocide too, here, because of course nobody thinks getting put in a boarding school is the same as getting taken to an extermination camp. Except as mentioned, cultural genocide is genocide. The European settlers did horrible things to the people who lived in America. Some of those things are called cultural genocide, so there's an element of white guilt that says whatever is happening over there is just as bad as the things that were done over here.
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Mar 26, 2021 00:33
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Dustcat posted:I wish you and others would stop trying to imply that anybody here is denouncing cultural genocide in china out of "white guilt" or out of a need to deflect from the atrocities committed by the United States in the past or ongoing today. We're not. I am not implying it and I am not deflecting. Raskolnikov38 posted:my understanding is that line of division is that genocide involves killing or creating conditions that hasten death
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Mar 26, 2021 00:40
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Dustcat posted:How else would one read this though: Fine, I guess it could be some projection on my part since I live in Canada. Here cultural genocide is a cudgel to use on your enemies, to accuse them of racism and bigotry. It's entirely performative and the first nations are still oppressed by settlers and nobody really cares.
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Mar 26, 2021 01:00
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Ferrinus posted:Barbarism equals oligarch power plus the Jokerfication of the countryside.
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Flavius Aetass posted:i don't care if you're right or wrong about this. be careful how you talk about it Could have just said this was always about thought police.
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