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I read the comic way way back in the day and had forgotten most of it and for some reason when I was watching the show I kept hearing 'Atom Eve' as 'Adam Eve' which was real confusing. It doesn't help that they changed the logo on her chest from a female gender symbol superimposed with an atom design to a female gender symbol that is crossed out  Plus I'm a huge idiot, that didn't help either. 
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I didn't see it that way. It seems like he really did try and just got his rear end beat into a coma. I mean Cecil was perfectly happy to assume that some supervillains did it. Him being there just raises more questions. I doubt anyone would have even suspected him at all if he wasn't there. In the comic book SPOILERS he kills them all easily (most of them never even see him coming) and then leaves and pretty much avoids all suspicion, they assume it was supervillains again but the show diverges from the comic on a fair few things so that might not mean anything twistedmentat posted:I mentioned this in the BSS thread and a Goon mentioned how it showed a deep and long history of superheroes, which yea I totally get that feeling from it, but still it can't help but feel derivative. The derivative/referential stuff is pretty much just a jumping off point. The show has even avoided a few comicbook cliches that the book used such as supervillains interrupting the big funeral
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Mar 28, 2021 21:45
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Ccs posted:Yeah they're super blatant knockoffs, except perhaps for Immortal. He's pretty much "What if Vandal Savage was a hero and not a villain" with extra powers
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Mar 29, 2021 17:39
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It's pretty funny that one of the few original characters in the comic got retroactively changed into another referential/ripoff character.
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Mar 30, 2021 13:09
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Panfilo posted:Demon Dick can't be all that good at his job, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten kicked out of hell. He was even less competent in the comic.  (I'm not going to post what happened in case they decide to include the gag for the show somehow)
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Apr 3, 2021 01:22
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Spacebump posted:Some of what is shown on the show is out of order from the comics which explains a little. The rest of it is just inconsistent writing. I think a few of the changes they've made are improvements on the comic which felt like it was making stuff up as it went along for a good long time. Bringing certain events forwards in the plot will make certain arcs pay off a little better. On the other hand, I guess people who haven't read the comic and don't have a decade's worth of extra context will be better able to say whether the writing on the show seems consistent or not.
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Apr 9, 2021 04:04
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Beamed posted:This episode is really bugging me. It was fine on its own, but the focus of the show being on "I must keep this secret AT ALL PERSONAL COSTS" while tons of plot threads are dangled and not yet followed up on (Mars, Titan, uh, the main show thread getting a token scene or two) is just.. why? If this is more of a "monster-of-the-week" show, as it definitely feels, I'd just write it off and shrug, it is what it is. But the tone of the show is trying to tell me it's more. I dunno. This episode advanced the arcs of maybe 6 or 7 of the minor characters. The comics had a lot more breathing room to pepper those moments here and there while focusing mostly on the main story involving Mark and his dad but I guess they had trouble fitting them into the show so they just crammed a bunch of them into this episode while Mark had a minor side adventure.
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Apr 20, 2021 14:57
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All the comic readers like me were going "Alright finally here we gooooooo!!"  when this episode started
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Apr 23, 2021 10:55
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MiddleOne posted:Someone has never suffered through a CW show. Also mainstream superhero comics back in the day used to constantly suffer from "sitcom syndrome" where they had to return to the status quo at the end of adventures because they wanted them to always be in a state where readers who dropped out could jump back into reading the latest issue again years later without needing to track down all the back issues they'd missed in order to figure out what was happening. Editors used to issue "story bibles" to new writers which were basically lists of what they weren't allowed to change in each comic, and a superhero continuity which didn't return to the status quo was a rarity. Back in the 70s the writers on Superman comics used to really have fun with the idea by giving Superman crazy new powers or putting him in crazy situations where his identity was revealed or he got married but then changing everything back to normal by the end of the issue. CORRECTION: it was often the cover illustrators or editors who came up with that crazy poo poo and then they left it to the writers to write a story around the idea and figure out how to reverse everything by the end of the issue  Also the mainstream superhero TV shows and movies of the time usually followed the same or a very very similar status quo because that's just how the audience expected the characters to be depicted. Kids these days with their story arcs and their character development and their evolving continuities don't know how good they've got it! E: 
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Apr 23, 2021 19:37
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Tarquinn posted:One thing that keeps happening in superhero shows that I will never understand is why grunts, especially those who should know better, try to engage demigods with guns. It's pretty much a trope but that makes it even funnier when one of them goes "I'm not paid enough for this, bye!!!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMd4S-LkywI NutritiousSnack posted:That's my point though, Invincible seems to be radically opposed to the idea the world isn't going to change much in a universe filled with Superman/Sayian Knock off who can destroy cities on a whim and super geninuses who can make gravity beg like a dog. Look at how fast this series moves in just one season; a lot of time has passed Yeah the superhero genre isn't really speculative fiction, it's power fantasy fiction that evolved from pulp fiction/westerns where a lone hero had to take matters into his own hands and enact vigilante justice. They were pretty much always about preserving order rather than advancing society, they're deeply conservative at their core if you really drill down into them. (The MCU has really struggled with this in recent years but that's a whole other discussion ....) Of course that was before guys like Alan Moore addressed the issue directly and dragged it all out into the open. There's still a lot of "old fashioned" superhero comics around but the scene as a whole is quite different these days. E: Atom Eve's whole "I've saved more lives these past three weeks than I did in three whole years with the Teen Team" speech is also a good critique of the genre Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Apr 24, 2021 |
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Apr 24, 2021 14:41
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Jedit posted:Yes, the Immortal is explicitly Abraham Lincoln. I wonder if people in that continuity are aware he was Abe Lincoln but aren't really impressed because these days he's a bit of a dick plus there's way cooler superheroes around now
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Apr 27, 2021 13:57
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Phenotype posted:oh my god all the Viltrum men are rocking the giant cop stache HA HA HA HA I was waiting for the non comics readers to catch up to that part, it's hilarious It also feeds into what I was talking about the other day with the pulp/western/vigilante precursors to superhero comics, and how Invincible turns that on its head. It turns out that Omni-Man was only posing as a benevolent vigilante to gain everyone's trust when he's really only here to impose order like a frontier sheriff. He's not a vigilante, he's a cop.
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Apr 30, 2021 04:06
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Phenotype posted:Do you live in a world where high resolution cameras haven't been invented, friend? We know what people look like. Cavill did a PR stunt back in 2016 where he stood around in Times Square wearing a Superman t-shirt under some giant BvS billboards and no one recognised him, or so the story goes  If you clap your hands and wish really hard it might even be real.
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Apr 30, 2021 07:41
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zoux posted:It reminds me of the old 90s ultra violent animes that we had to trade on tapes like Ninja Scrolls or Vampire Hunter D. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it was an intentional parallel, given the Akira homage in episode 7. Stuff like that is old hat now but when I was a lad, we'd never seen anything that graphic. It was way more graphic than even actual Hollywood gore movies. Zaphod42 posted:Uh, what hollywood gore movies are you watching? This sounds really out of touch. Invincible is violent, but it was infinitely less graphic than Saw 2, much less the later Saw films or Hostel or half of modern Hollywood horror films. Ninja Scroll and Vampire Hunter D were on the milder side of the 90s goreporn animes that were getting passed around between fans back in the day compared to stuff like Genocyber, Violence Jack and Urotsukidoji Legend of the Overfiend. Of course those movies also had a big influence on western comics and gore movies so it's kinda pointless to argue whether 90s/00s western films were gorier than 90s/00s anime films because they were both feeding off each other. Eli Roth got his start as an animator and he's a huge fan of Japanese horror cinema (he gave Takashi Miike a cameo in Hostel 2) so it's almost certain that he would have seen a whole bunch of those earlier ultra violent Japanese animes.
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May 7, 2021 03:41
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shirts and skins posted:Is it just me, or did the animation get better as the season went on? Maybe I just got used to it. It goes up and down IMHO, I guess the main difference is that there were more critical action scenes towards the end and those tend to get a bigger share of the animation budget
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May 8, 2021 14:23
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Casnorf posted:Intractable Imbattable
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Also Rudy was never a fully grown adult male so it's not like he actually gave himself a younger looking body ...... all of which still sounds like some gross anime "5000 year old demon in a pre-teen's body" stuff 
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