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Zurtilik posted:I mean appeals are still a possibility right? yeah they are but I don't think they'll be successful. the judge was saying there's "potential" for an appeal because of what Maxine Waters said but there's "potential" appeals for a lot of reasons. I think him getting a lesser sentence is more likely
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SHM you should have just lied and said you wrote in hillary that would have made your lib family even more mad plus you could have been indignant about being with her
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spacemang_spliff posted:SHM you should have just lied and said you wrote in hillary that would have made your lib family even more mad plus you could have been indignant about being with her I'd vote for a former cop before I'd vote for someone who was on Epstein's plane
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God drat you are stupid
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OP he did not walk free it seems you are incorrect
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spacemang_spliff posted:SHM you should have just lied and said you wrote in hillary that would have made your lib family even more mad plus you could have been indignant about being with her Probably less shameful to actually write in hillary since at least she actually got to the voting parts of multiple presidential primaries, and even won one. (By cheating, of course, cheat2win Eddie Guerrero 4eva). Kamala lost all support that wasn't bugfuck nuts twitter weirdos and dropped out before Iowa, because she somehow sucks worse than Warren, Klobuchar, and Buttigieg.
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There's still a chance! https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/st...ingawful.com%2F
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He said, while raping a child
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Pontificating rear end posted:OP he did not walk free it seems you are incorrect
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:not in the primary, god no. bruh moment.
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Mods please probate everyone itt who predicted Chauvin would not be convicted of any charges.
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Heated Gaming Moment posted:Mods please probate everyone itt who predicted Chauvin would not be convicted of any charges. for the high crime of being wrong
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You all better cut it out or I'm gonna find Jeffery on discord and complain about d&d invading
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wonder how soon we'll have a dead member of that jury
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Kamalahyphenvoter was right, it brings me no pleasure to report this https://twitter.com/axios/status/1384678521478340609
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paul_soccer12 posted:God drat you are stupid
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Joan posted:Owned, OP. No offense Happy to be owned, it's nice to have a reason to adjust my base cynicism.
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chauvin did kinda get off because he wasn't convicted of first degree murder, which is what any non-cop would be convicted of immediately if they went to trial where the evidence features a video of them in broad daylight choking a handcuffed person for 9 minutes.
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TenementFunster posted:chauvin did kinda get off because he wasn't convicted of first degree murder, which is what any non-cop would be convicted of immediately if they went to trial where the evidence features a video of them in broad daylight choking a handcuffed person for 9 minutes. I thought murder 1 had to be premeditated?
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Zeroisanumber posted:I thought murder 1 had to be premeditated?
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TenementFunster posted:chauvin "meditated" for 8 minutes and 46 seconds Idk, my law degree is from drunk-watching 90's-era episodes of Law & Order (because Lenny was the only good cop) but I think murder 2 is murder in comission of a felony so the charges feel appropriate.
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TenementFunster posted:chauvin "meditated" for 8 minutes and 46 seconds
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Zeroisanumber posted:Idk, my law degree is from drunk-watching 90's-era episodes of Law & Order (because Lenny was the only good cop) but I think murder 2 is murder in comission of a felony so the charges feel appropriate.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Idk, my law degree is from drunk-watching 90's-era episodes of Law & Order (because Lenny was the only good cop) but I think murder 2 is murder in comission of a felony so the charges feel appropriate. You're thinking of felony murder E: Not a lawyer so I may have some of this wrong but generally second-degree murder is common law murder, and then first degree is the aggravated form. Aggravating factors would be things like: specific intent to kill, premeditation, deliberation things like that. And IIRC depending on what the specific laws are where you live the method of murder can count. Like, stabbing someone might not be an aggravating factor but poisoning someone might. Or if you were lying in wait for someone, that sort of thing. christmas boots has issued a correction as of 23:07 on Apr 22, 2021 |
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TenementFunster posted:premeditation doesn't require he woke up that morning and thought "i cant wait to kill George Floyd." Isn't this exactly what premeditation requires
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some plague rats posted:Isn't this exactly what premeditation requires Premeditation in the legal sense only requires the intent to kill before taking the act. Premeditation (for any normal non cop person) can be established in the literal blink of an eye. If you decide to kill someone and immediately thereafter point the gun and pull the trigger that is premeditation for legal purposes. In the real world you can’t prove that unless they confess, so any court is going to accept the fact that you did it intentionally as enough evidence to prove it was premeditated
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some plague rats posted:Isn't this exactly what premeditation requires IIRC the length of time doesn't have to be very long to count. Minutes can be enough, I think.
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HashtagGirlboss posted:Premeditation in the legal sense only requires the intent to kill before taking the act. Premeditation (for any normal non cop person) can be established in the literal blink of an eye. If you decide to kill someone and immediately thereafter point the gun and pull the trigger that is premeditation for legal purposes. In the real world you can’t prove that unless they confess, so any court is going to accept the fact that you did it intentionally as enough evidence to prove it was premeditated Well no poo poo. What a weird definition of premeditation the courts are using
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some plague rats posted:Isn't this exactly what premeditation requires christmas boots posted:IIRC the length of time doesn't have to be very long to count. Minutes can be enough, I think.
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TenementFunster posted:no. he killed george floyd slowly and through deliberate, intentional action. chauvin had many, many minutes to contemplate what he was doing and the foreseeable consequences of what he was doing. he didn't shoot floyd in the "heat of the moment" or whatever bullshit. Yeah I got corrected on this. hosed up
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some plague rats posted:Well no poo poo. What a weird definition of premeditation the courts are using yeah, this is basically what happens when you're working off of the meaning of words as they were used hundreds of years ago instead of the meaning of words as they've evolved in the intervening centuries also because you're working with lawyers and judges who are highly motivated to manipulate words to mean what they want them to mean and not what they actually mean
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The archaeic language of the law is intentional so that when language evolves the intent of the the law doesn't change. It's one of the most important parts of the court system. If the law needs to be updated, it needs to be an active choice of the legislature, not just the meaning of words drifting over time. One of the funny parts about gun-control fanatics' and their dumb focus on words like "militia" or "arms" as if the contemporary colloquial meaning of the individual words is the important part instead of the overall intent.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:The archaeic language of the law is intentional so that when language evolves the intent of the the law doesn't change. It's one of the most important parts of the court system. If the law needs to be updated, it needs to be an active choice of the legislature, not just the meaning of words drifting over time. chauvin acted with purposeful intention to do something that killed another person. it wasn’t an accident and it wasn’t a decision made in the heat of the moment. that has fit the definition of first degree murder for centuries. not sure why you’re whining about gun control, but trying to divine the meaning of individual words to determine legislative intent is what judges have been doing since forever in every aspect of the law, not just regulating very dangerous objects.
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You agree with me, sorry you got "triggered (like a gun)" by my comparison to gun-control fanatic's, lol.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:You agree with me, sorry you got "triggered (like a gun)" by my comparison to gun-control fanatic's, lol. people who support gun control, like Bernie Sanders, don't care about that "textualist" poo poo
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