What happens when Chauvin walks free?

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TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; The Cooler King

a stunning endorsement of the continuing efficacy of torching a police precinct.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 01:29

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# ¿ May 11, 2024 22:08

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; The Cooler King

that guy didn't actually vote for kamala, right?

# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 01:34

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; The Cooler King

One More Fat Nerd posted:

Supposedly, yes, SHM wrote in Kamala.

no way. come on, nobody is that dumb.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 01:46

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; The Cooler King

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

not in the primary, god no.

so you turned in a ballot - with your name on it, for a real election - and it said you wanted Kamala Harris to be the President of the United States of America?

bruh moment.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 06:13

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; The Cooler King

chauvin did kinda get off because he wasn't convicted of first degree murder, which is what any non-cop would be convicted of immediately if they went to trial where the evidence features a video of them in broad daylight choking a handcuffed person for 9 minutes.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 21:49

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; The Cooler King

Zeroisanumber posted:

I thought murder 1 had to be premeditated?

chauvin "meditated" for 8 minutes and 46 seconds

# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 21:52

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; The Cooler King

Zeroisanumber posted:

Idk, my law degree is from drunk-watching 90's-era episodes of Law & Order (because Lenny was the only good cop) but I think murder 2 is murder in comission of a felony so the charges feel appropriate.

no. he did something intentionally that he knew or should have known would lead to the death of another human being, and persisted in doing that thing for 8 minutes and 46 seconds, over the protests of onlookers, as that person lost consciousness and died. premeditation doesn't require he woke up that morning and thought "i cant wait to kill George Floyd." that's murder in the first degree for any non-cop.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 22:09

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; The Cooler King

some plague rats posted:

Isn't this exactly what premeditation requires

no. he killed george floyd slowly and through deliberate, intentional action. chauvin had many, many minutes to contemplate what he was doing and the foreseeable consequences of what he was doing. he didn't shoot floyd in the "heat of the moment" or whatever bullshit.

christmas boots posted:

IIRC the length of time doesn't have to be very long to count. Minutes can be enough, I think.

seconds are enough. slowly asphyxiating someone is absolutely enough. he did a thing that a child could tell you can kill a person, and he did it for a long loving time.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 23:12

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; The Cooler King

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

The archaeic language of the law is intentional so that when language evolves the intent of the the law doesn't change. It's one of the most important parts of the court system. If the law needs to be updated, it needs to be an active choice of the legislature, not just the meaning of words drifting over time.

One of the funny parts about gun-control fanatics' and their dumb focus on words like "militia" or "arms" as if the contemporary colloquial meaning of the individual words is the important part instead of the overall intent.

what the gently caress are you talking about? that is always what �premeditation� has meant.

chauvin acted with purposeful intention to do something that killed another person. it wasn�t an accident and it wasn�t a decision made in the heat of the moment. that has fit the definition of first degree murder for centuries.

not sure why you�re whining about gun control, but trying to divine the meaning of individual words to determine legislative intent is what judges have been doing since forever in every aspect of the law, not just regulating very dangerous objects.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2021 21:06

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# ¿ May 11, 2024 22:08

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; The Cooler King

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

You agree with me, sorry you got "triggered (like a gun)" by my comparison to gun-control fanatic's, lol.

probably because it was stupid and objectively wrong. Scalia's Heller opinion is entirely a dumb focus on the words "militia" and "arms."

people who support gun control, like Bernie Sanders, don't care about that "textualist" poo poo

# ¿ Apr 24, 2021 01:04

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