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Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Umbra Dubium posted:

Horses aren't exactly colour-blind as we would understand it, but I think they perceive the adjacent blocks of colour as a shadow effect; it must look like a ravine in the road to them.
Interesting theory, but the far simpler explanation is that they are police & therefore bigots

e: 127 is a Mersenne prime, I can't remember anything in particular about them except that they're really interesting for some reason

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josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1388144202723233792

lol

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.
Labour to announce soon that leaseholders will have the right to wallpaper the exterior walls of their accommodation with John Lewis wallpaper if they qualify.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Maybe he just hasn't noticed anything that has happened since 1970 just generally.
Going to need to find out his views on East Pakistan and Tanganyika to pin it down further.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

josh04 posted:

Wildly funny that Starmer et al have been handed an open goal on the Prime Minister taking a naked bribe for his own benefit, and instead they've got LOTO handling individual rolls of wallpaper and glancing back and forth at the press for approval.

I think this might be the thing that turns my opinion of Starmer from "Completely inept Blair cosplayer" to "Is actually working in league with the Tories" because he and his people have managed to take the one single bit of dirt that stuck to Johnson and turned it into an argument about where you should buy your wallpaper. The CCO Press Office themselves couldn't have found a better way to defuse it.

RadicalTranslation
Jan 26, 2021

Article from the Associated Press on upcoming London mayoral election:

https://apnews.com/article/europe-london-coronavirus-brexit-government-and-politics-fb2745a35fb18a80d0444f0aabc88a70


https://apnews.com/article/europe-london-coronavirus-brexit-government-and-politics-fb2745a35fb18a80d0444f0aabc88a70 posted:

London's newly elected mayor will lead a city of more than 8 million that is facing the usual big-city troubles — too little affordable housing and transit, too much crime and pollution — as well as a host of unprecedented problems.

A year of coronavirus lockdowns and travel restrictions have emptied the city's office towers, shut down its nightlife, shuttered its pubs and restaurants and banished international tourists. Returning to normal will take a long time.

“We’ve lost about 300,000 jobs already, and more than a million Londoners are currently furloughed,” said Mayor Sadiq Khan, who is seeking re-election. “So the challenge is how we avoid (the) mass unemployment of the 1980s.

“It’s really important to have the same ambition that our forefathers and foremothers had after the Second World War, because that’s scale of the challenge,” said Khan, whose priorities include coaxing people back into the city center and easing the economic inequalities exacerbated by the pandemic.

If opinion polls are right, Khan, 50, is likely to win a second term in Thursday’s election, which has been delayed a year because of the pandemic. Both he and his main challenger are made-in-London success stories.

Khan, a lawyer and member of the center-left Labour Party, is the son of Pakistani immigrants. His father was a bus driver, his mother a seamstress.

Conservative candidate Shaun Bailey’s grandparents, meanwhile, are part of the “Windrush generation” of post-World War II immigrants to Britain from the Caribbean. He was raised by a single mother in public housing in Ladbroke Grove, an area where pricey Victorian houses sit near run-down social housing blocks.

The 49-year-old former youth worker is a passionate advocate of the city that he says gave him chances to thrive.

“More than any other place in the world, if you come from a working-class background, London offers opportunities like no other,” said Bailey, who believes London’s biggest challenge is crime.

For Londoners here, how big of a deal is crime and how would its rate compare to other major cities in the world? Is the appeal to a high crime rate mostly fear mongering?

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
i wonder what the justification for police on horses is anyway nowadays?

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




NotJustANumber99 posted:

i wonder what the justification for police on horses is anyway nowadays?

"A man on a horse is spiritually, as well as physically, bigger than a man on foot" - John Steinbeck

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
intimidation/brutalisation of members of the public with an added bonus of "look at what those monsters did to sgt freckles" when they charge them into a crowd that fights back

Szmitten
Apr 26, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

Going to need to find out his views on East Pakistan and Tanganyika to pin it down further.


"How many Germanys are there?"
"One but it's huge - 1941-45"

is loving hysterical to me

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

RadicalTranslation posted:

Article from the Associated Press on upcoming London mayoral election:

https://apnews.com/article/europe-london-coronavirus-brexit-government-and-politics-fb2745a35fb18a80d0444f0aabc88a70


For Londoners here, how big of a deal is crime and how would its rate compare to other major cities in the world? Is the appeal to a high crime rate mostly fear mongering?

I think like in most of the Western world, the *perception* of crime is far, far worse than the reality. The decades-long reduction in violent crime has still mostly continued, but a couple of nasty blips - in particular a fairly vicious gang war that led to London having a worse murder rate than New York (for three weeks at the beginning of 2018) has let the usual suspects pile onto the idea that London is basically Foggy Fallujah.

London remains one of the safer cities in the world in its weight class (the murder rate hovers between 1.5 and 2 per million compared to 3ish for New York and 5 for Madrid, although Paris (0.9) and Tokyo (0.3!) have it beaten) and the rates of burglary, mugging, and sexual assault are similar to or lower than any other urban area in the UK.

The most interesting comparison - for those who grew up in the East End and hear "Well when the Krays were about it were a lot safer" every 10 loving seconds - is that *every single type of crime* is lower in Sadiq Khan's knife-crime shariah Londonistan than it was in Ronnie and Reggie's knees-up in and out of each others houses you could leave your door unlocked London - there were 250,000 burglaries in London in 1965, the year David Bailey took *that* picture, and there are now only 30-40,000 a year. (Admittedly poo poo went *bananas* in the 90s with rates over a million a year for most of that decade).

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

goddamnedtwisto posted:

(Admittedly poo poo went *bananas* in the 90s with rates over a million a year for most of that decade).

Is there a particular reason for that? Britannia just too cool?

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Guavanaut posted:

That's probably how the NHS makes it's money under the Tories too:(

it's some pages back but the NHS actually hands several billions worth of data over to Thiel whenever he asks for it, at no charge. The papers have tried to make this a scandal once or twice but voters don't really care about big data or government waste or massive breaches of their privacy.

They did it again during the pandemic and the government haven't really answered any questions on it, or why Thiel and his completely worthless tech were so heavily involved in the early pandemic response. Other countries have been much more hostile, both to his heavy involvement in healthcare, and constant leeching of huge volumes of patient data in exchange for low-value no-bid contracts for (????)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Speaking of the mayoral election, in the last hour I've received *four* emails from various levels of the Labour Party (that I've not paid a penny to since they suspended Corbyn) - two from the national party telling me TORY BAD VOTE LABOUR BECAUSE NOT TORY (they really, really do have 2016 Democrats running the show now, don't they) plus two from the local party asking me to help leafleting for the Mayoral and GLA elections. Now Khan is a shoe-in for mayor and the GLA seats are even safer, so I have to wonder about this (particularly the semi-personal note from my local councilor).

Is there some kind of internal polling that they're making GBS threads themselves over? Or - my suspicion - have they really badly overestimated the amount of boots on the ground they were likely to have for this? In times past the 60-ish people who actually bother to turn up for meetings would be supplemented by shitloads of locals come actual election time. The thing is I seriously, seriously doubt any of the people I've worked with in the past (especially the dozen or so of us that went up to Chingford in 2019) are even in the party any more, let alone wanting to waste their time talking up this shower of shits.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

in particular a fairly vicious gang war that led to London having a worse murder rate than New York (for three weeks at the beginning of 2018) has let the usual suspects pile onto the idea that London is basically Foggy Fallujah.
That's also because people still have it in their heads that New York is the NYC of Taxi Driver and Goodfellas and a thousand other Gritty Crimes Drama Slash Rap Album, when they've been doing very well recently, so really the take away should have been "Great work NYC" and not "Khan's London Worse Than The End of Scarface, Everyone Is Dead" but apparently good news doesn't sell...

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

They want me to go to hartlepool to "keep it red"

no chance.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

Is there a particular reason for that? Britannia just too cool?

My personal theory - or at least the one I loudly shout around the fourth pint into "They only did their own" chat - is that no fucker had anything worth nicking in the 60s. It's actually a pretty solid one, IMO - the only valuables in most working-class households would have been the furniture and *maybe* a big-gently caress-off Bakelite telly that needed four blokes to lift it, and really there wouldn't have been anyone to buy it because everyone had the same three-piece suite and sideboard on the never-never. The explosion in burglary tracks pretty closely with vastly expanded consumer credit and miniaturised electronics, meaning there was just a lot more nickable (and sellable) stuff laying around. For that matter, burglary had a similar explosion in the mid-50s when the post-war compromise really started to kick in and so it was more likely people would have jewelry and other easily-pocketed stuff in the house.

If I can venture even further into the Freakonomics genre, burglaries started to plummet at the turn of the century *at the exact same time* as councils started upgrading the insulation and heating in their housing stock ready for the final push of the selloff, meaning all of a sudden there were millions more houses with double glazing and much more robust doors.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

That's also because people still have it in their heads that New York is the NYC of Taxi Driver and Goodfellas and a thousand other Gritty Crimes Drama Slash Rap Album, when they've been doing very well recently, so really the take away should have been "Great work NYC" and not "Khan's London Worse Than The End of Scarface, Everyone Is Dead" but apparently good news doesn't sell...


Yeah, I didn't mention it because it was a bit of a derail, but NYC (and the surrounding metropolitan area) is one of the safest cities in the USA by a *long* loving way. Chicago has a murder rate almost ten times higher.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Odd question but if I wanted to commission some artwork, where's a good place to go to find an artist? I tried artstation but have had little success. Trying to get something of a cartoony style.


Not trying to get some furry porn honest guv

Have you tried posting a commission in SA-mart?

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.
From a few pages back:

"And that brings me to the last and greatest group of male culprits. Most of these single mothers have had the common sense to detect that the modern British male is useless.

If he is blue collar, he is likely to be drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless, and perhaps claiming to suffer from low self-esteem brought on by unemployment.

If he is white collar, he is likely to be little better."

You know, I'm thinking about this a bit. I don't know about criminal, but all these feed into each other. No aim means no hope means drinking which causes low self-esteem. This is something to hate, but not to hate the person, but the situation that drives a person into this depression pit and keeps them there.

I'm not saying, "oh it can't be fixed, can't be helped." But good luck making the changes that need to be done to fix this when everyone's is quite happy where everything is.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

goddamnedtwisto posted:

The thing is I seriously, seriously doubt any of the people I've worked with in the past (especially the dozen or so of us that went up to Chingford in 2019) are even in the party any more, let alone wanting to waste their time talking up this shower of shits.

Nobody I know from the Canterbury party is giving it much enthusiasm, a few people I'm closer to were/are running in opposition to them on a Bins poo poo, Duffield Worse platform. The older members that are still lefties and very mad about tony blair might still be out, but they've been universally sour to the local party since Duffield's election speech.

I've checked with people in other constituencies and there's a serious problem. As far as post, I've had one single set from the tories, several from Libdems, and don't know anyone that's seen anything from Labour.

When we came back at the end of the GE campaign, the ward organiser sent apologies for only having a 98% last-month contact rate, because he'd been hit by a car. Maybe pissing on u30s is a great way to get smashed up in uni towns?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Ooh now they're offering me a zoom call with Starmer and Rayner, that's got me poppin that has.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
Apropos of nothing I just stumbled on this article from 2019 that made me laugh

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


goddamnedtwisto posted:

Ooh now they're offering me a zoom call with Starmer and Rayner, that's got me poppin that has.

Pack a brolly for the RaynStarm

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

peanut- posted:

Apropos of nothing I just stumbled on this article from 2019 that made me laugh



It would have been true if only JO! could have reigned in her worst squirrel based impulses. Sadly, the tragic death of multiple squirrels brought an end to the Lib Dem Fight Back (WINNING HERE!)

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


goddamnedtwisto posted:

I think this might be the thing that turns my opinion of Starmer from "Completely inept Blair cosplayer" to "Is actually working in league with the Tories" because he and his people have managed to take the one single bit of dirt that stuck to Johnson and turned it into an argument about where you should buy your wallpaper. The CCO Press Office themselves couldn't have found a better way to defuse it.

He's just a security state creature imo

He has to downplay government corruption or its a threat to national security and not in the public interest

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I still keep driving past the occasional lib dem warning diamond.

No loving idea what kind of brain still wants to associate with them.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

OwlFancier posted:

I still keep driving past the occasional lib dem warning diamond.

No loving idea what kind of brain still wants to associate with them.

Basically KHive

Spalec
Apr 16, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

That's also because people still have it in their heads that New York is the NYC of Taxi Driver and Goodfellas and a thousand other Gritty Crimes Drama Slash Rap Album, when they've been doing very well recently, so really the take away should have been "Great work NYC" and not "Khan's London Worse Than The End of Scarface, Everyone Is Dead" but apparently good news doesn't sell...


Was there some sort of major policy shift in the 90s for NYC? What accounts for that massive drop?

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






goddamnedtwisto posted:

Ooh now they're offering me a zoom call with Starmer and Rayner, that's got me poppin that has.
Get a bit of that Iron Mike Gapes in there and I'll be getting the milk sweats

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Speaking of the mayoral election, in the last hour I've received *four* emails from various levels of the Labour Party (that I've not paid a penny to since they suspended Corbyn) - two from the national party telling me TORY BAD VOTE LABOUR BECAUSE NOT TORY (they really, really do have 2016 Democrats running the show now, don't they) plus two from the local party asking me to help leafleting for the Mayoral and GLA elections. Now Khan is a shoe-in for mayor and the GLA seats are even safer, so I have to wonder about this (particularly the semi-personal note from my local councilor).

Is there some kind of internal polling that they're making GBS threads themselves over? Or - my suspicion - have they really badly overestimated the amount of boots on the ground they were likely to have for this? In times past the 60-ish people who actually bother to turn up for meetings would be supplemented by shitloads of locals come actual election time. The thing is I seriously, seriously doubt any of the people I've worked with in the past (especially the dozen or so of us that went up to Chingford in 2019) are even in the party any more, let alone wanting to waste their time talking up this shower of shits.

Its the same down here. If anyone recalls the local council post I made they may remember that the tories were narrowly booted out in the last elections before Tories toried it to get back in control due to a death during Coronavirus. Probably the biggest local victory we have had down in Poole since I can remember living here.

No-one is turning out for Labour councillors. There weren't many of us to begin with but the e-mails just seem desperate for help. The tories are going to sweep back in properly.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

goddamnedtwisto posted:

My personal theory - or at least the one I loudly shout around the fourth pint into "They only did their own" chat - is that no fucker had anything worth nicking in the 60s. It's actually a pretty solid one, IMO - the only valuables in most working-class households would have been the furniture and *maybe* a big-gently caress-off Bakelite telly that needed four blokes to lift it, and really there wouldn't have been anyone to buy it because everyone had the same three-piece suite and sideboard on the never-never. The explosion in burglary tracks pretty closely with vastly expanded consumer credit and miniaturised electronics, meaning there was just a lot more nickable (and sellable) stuff laying around. For that matter, burglary had a similar explosion in the mid-50s when the post-war compromise really started to kick in and so it was more likely people would have jewelry and other easily-pocketed stuff in the house.


The other reason for an explosion in burglary is increase in drug use and drug addiction.

When people are in the throes of addiction, they will throw caution to the wind and do whatever it takes to get quick cash so they can buy more gear.

While better housing security probably reduces the number of burglaries, I'd say if you study the numbers you would see an increase in robberies.

ANYTHING YOU SOW
Nov 7, 2009

Spalec posted:

Was there some sort of major policy shift in the 90s for NYC? What accounts for that massive drop?

The were "broken window" policing reforms which some credit for the drop, but the timings dont really work and a simmilar drop happened in many places:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/what-caused-the-crime-decline/477408/

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.
It's not as if the PM having someone pay for his curtains or whatever could be related in any way to the struggles normal people have with housing related costs.

In a vacuum people probably don't care that much about some Boris shenanigans. But if someone would consistently bang the drum on the inconsistencies INSTEAD OF GOING TO A SHOP FOR NO REASON it might actually help.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/apr/30/family-facing-40000-fire-safety-bill-told-they-can-contact-samaritans

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I think like in most of the Western world, the *perception* of crime is far, far worse than the reality. The decades-long reduction in violent crime has still mostly continued, but a couple of nasty blips - in particular a fairly vicious gang war that led to London having a worse murder rate than New York (for three weeks at the beginning of 2018) has let the usual suspects pile onto the idea that London is basically Foggy Fallujah.

London remains one of the safer cities in the world in its weight class (the murder rate hovers between 1.5 and 2 per million compared to 3ish for New York and 5 for Madrid, although Paris (0.9) and Tokyo (0.3!) have it beaten) and the rates of burglary, mugging, and sexual assault are similar to or lower than any other urban area in the UK.

The most interesting comparison - for those who grew up in the East End and hear "Well when the Krays were about it were a lot safer" every 10 loving seconds - is that *every single type of crime* is lower in Sadiq Khan's knife-crime shariah Londonistan than it was in Ronnie and Reggie's knees-up in and out of each others houses you could leave your door unlocked London - there were 250,000 burglaries in London in 1965, the year David Bailey took *that* picture, and there are now only 30-40,000 a year. (Admittedly poo poo went *bananas* in the 90s with rates over a million a year for most of that decade).

That's violent crime and property crime, but I have a suspicion that an accurate crime map might show world leading numbers around Westminster and the City of London in certain other categories.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

The Question IRL posted:

The other reason for an explosion in burglary is increase in drug use and drug addiction.

When people are in the throes of addiction, they will throw caution to the wind and do whatever it takes to get quick cash so they can buy more gear.

While better housing security probably reduces the number of burglaries, I'd say if you study the numbers you would see an increase in robberies.

Nah, robberies went up at more or less the exact same rate - they changed the format in 2003 and i CBA integrating the numbers but here's the total burglaries versus total robberies from 1898 to 2003 for England and Wales:



(Robberies are red, burglaries are blue, I'll leave the rest of the poem up to you).

Unfortunately they don't break it down but I'd be genuinely fascinated if there were numbers on exactly what is being stolen and tracking how they changed over time, if only to see how it feeds into my general theory of easiness of nicking being the main prerequisite.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

RadicalTranslation posted:

For Londoners here, how big of a deal is crime and how would its rate compare to other major cities in the world? Is the appeal to a high crime rate mostly fear mongering?

I mean I live in Barking which is probably one of the stabbier parts of London and I've never felt unsafe. Maybe if I were hanging around the Tube station at like 2am? But in that case it's kind of on me. Least I'm not likely to be gunned down by a cop.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Speaking of mayoral election, does the 2-vote system mean I can safely vote green with my first vote, then use my second vote for Khan when he inevitably gets in the final round? Is that optimum strategy?

(given green and labour are my preferences)

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Speaking of mayoral election, does the 2-vote system mean I can safely vote green with my first vote, then use my second vote for Khan when he inevitably gets in the final round? Is that optimum strategy?

(given green and labour are my preferences)

Yes, this is safe and is what I did. The top two candidates go to round two and all others are eliminated.

In retrospect wishing I'd gone binface/green

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stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



RadicalTranslation posted:

For Londoners here, how big of a deal is crime and how would its rate compare to other major cities in the world? Is the appeal to a high crime rate mostly fear mongering?

In my nearly five years in London I've been the victim of one crime (moped phone theft). I wouldn't say I feel any more vulnerable and less safe than anywhere else I've lived though.

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