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Bit late on this but I read about how Dunn didn't "get" Billie Kay and it doesn't completely shock me at all, given that Sable was literally Dunn's idea of what WWE's ideal woman should be, and since Billie is not blonde and speaks with an Australian accent, she was pretty much doomed from the start
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Blaise330 posted:Least they just let her go instead of making her Emmalina. That just reminds me that they had three attractive, charismatic and athletic (though YMMV when it comes to opinions on how good each of them was in the ring individually) Australian women, and yet because Bucky Beaver there has Vince's ear and doesn't think anyone that isn't a Real Doll come to life is worth pushing, they basically hosed up with all three of them and ended up letting them go
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Just  at anyone thinking a NJPW/WWE "partnership" won't be hosed over to hell and back by Vince and Dunn and their sycophants
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graph posted:cant blame them, raw is absolutely dire atm The best part about that thread is the vast number of replies saying "good idea guys, Raw has been poo poo for a long time now". There are a couple of WWE stans trying to defend the show, but even then they're only doing so very half-heartedly.
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:maybe they were moles but they got there and realized how fun and nice it was Vince desperately tried to recreate the magic of the 1980s glory days, but in true monkey's paw fashion he ended up recreating the Cold War of the time, with WWE dudes defecting to AEW the second their
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njsykora posted:Lance Storm outright said on his F4W show that he thought the main targets were going to be the guys who used AEW existing as leverage to get bigger deals over the 2 years. I wouldn't be surprised if they want to make an example of those people to try and teach everyone else that you shouldn't try and get a better deal if you have leverage because you might be punished for it later. On the other hand, Bully Ray said Vince once told him if someone had leverage over him and didn't use it, then they were a fool; so I think it's more that Vince is just an insane old man who makes business decisions based on nothing more than his whims, paranoid delusions, and/or racist views
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Jun 4, 2021 17:51
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Didn't Dirk Benedict lose his poo poo when they announced that Starbuck was going to be a woman in the new BSG and he kept calling her Stardoe? Yep and then he took a pic with her, I think at a Starbucks
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coconono posted:Pail killed Shame with the candle stick, Staphny laughed. Rurd Derg preferred the gray
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Le Saboteur posted:have a little cloud can you people have a little cloud can you have
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Jun 14, 2021 17:00
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I will never not chuckle whenever someone posts and points out that "HHH worked for 20 years to maneuver himself into position to take over WWE, including marrying into Vince's family, only to have an outside hire from the corporate world outmaneuver him in less than four months"
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Jun 14, 2021 19:20
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Eat My Fuc posted:HHH's life is infinitely better than mine will ever be so I find it hard to laugh at him or think him marrying a hot millionaire and being a millionaire as failure. HHH angled for over two decades to take over the biggest wrestling company in the world, and now sees that dream slipping completely through his fingers, simply because his insane father-in-law decided to let an outsider with more corporate experience run things instead of him. I promise you, no amount of being rich or having a hot wife who's also rich will ever, and I do mean ever, heal that gaping wound in HHH's psyche. E: this is basically the same logic people try to apply to Vince or other rich sociopaths. "Vince is rich, if I was him I'd just retire and live in my Florida mansion and have flings with swimwear models." "Why does Trump want to be president again, he's rich and has his Eastern European nude model trophy wife and bangs porn stars, he should just chill at Mar-a-Lago and live the good life." For these people it's not about the money or the women. It's all about the power and attention they get that feeds their ego. HHH isn't going to be content to just chill out with Stephanie when he could have been running WWE and reshaping it to fit his whims. Sydney Bottocks fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jun 14, 2021 |
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Jun 14, 2021 20:41
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Stephanie's a good human being, I mean really, who cares that she once literally said that what happened on 9/11 was just as bad as when the feds investigated her father for tax fraud
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Jun 14, 2021 21:30
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Stephanie once fired a dead man twice. And phoned him up repeatedly to remind him he was fired, because she wasn't happy with his lack of dismay at being fired by her the first time. Certainly a thing that a stable, decent, normal person would do.
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Jun 14, 2021 21:38
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:6 if you count Paul Turner (the Shelley Levene of AEW refs). "Glengarry leads on a pole" match confirmed
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is pepsi ok posted:Back when he was on the Florida house show loop his gimmick was what I can only describe as "opioid addict". He would come out all disheveled and would constantly itch his face. And people say WWE can't come up with relatable characters for an audience 
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Jun 19, 2021 23:11
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MJeff posted:Per Fightful Select, Brock and WWE are talking again and WWE wants him back on TV soon. And just like that, the question "why did WWE fire all those people in the middle of a record profit-making year" was answered
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Jun 20, 2021 20:53
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So is Nikki Cross aka the Electric Butterfly going to partner up with Pumaman at some point Also: 
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"In my spare time, I'm just happy to be here"
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Jun 22, 2021 23:23
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Royal Updog posted:cape doesn't have a gold fringe so we don't need to pay your health insurance Eagerly awaiting the first WWE Superstar to get an actual Sovereign Citizen gimmick
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Jun 23, 2021 02:24
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Codependent Poster posted:Peyton is a bikini model. I'm shocked Vince fired her because you would think that alone would set his horn dog levels off and he'd turn her into Peytonlina or something It makes sense when you realize that Vince's ideal woman was Sable and that he likely views every single woman that's ever traipsed through WWE in the years since she left as just not being able to live up to her standards (of being a heavily surgically-enhanced Playboy model) I'm also willing to bet that every contract negotiation Vince has these days with Lesnar always starts with "what if Sable was your manager this time instead of Heyman"
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Jun 23, 2021 14:16
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Dacap posted:I don’t know if this is even the case anymore, because they basically had someone in the same Sable/Stratus blonde bombshell mold with Mandy Rose and did nothing with her. I don't mean in the same mold as Sable, I mean literally her, not just in look but in personality, mainstream media appeal, etc. Like how some people will date a certain type that all have a similar sort of look, but that's only because they had an ex that really made an impact on them and they're always trying to recreate that magic. Sort of like what Jimmy Stewart's character does in "Vertigo". Stories abound in recent years of WWE ladies who were asked or pressured to bleach their hair, get breast implants, etc., so I don't think it's as crazy a theory as it may sound at first. Ganso Bomb posted:I'd imagine there's kind of an over-saturation problem for Vince now. In the Sable days, there was really just Sable and Sunny. Sunny faded out in favor of Sable. In Trish's day, she was the main blonde bombshell lady and while there were other women wrestlers around, I don't think many (or any) really looked like Trish? Now they'll hire a hundred women with The Look and they just cycle through them week to week because Vince's hosed up brain can't retain anything anymore. I was kind of thinking this too, IIRC Trish came right after Sable left the first time (she quit and filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against WWE in 1999; Trish debuted in 2000 and got into the angle with Vince in 2001) and I wouldn't be one bit surprised if some of the more demeaning stuff Vince made her do was him taking out his frustrations and anger.
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Ganso Bomb posted:I don't think it's just a problem with the hiring of types of women Vince has been historically into. He also can't keep his attention on new giant muscle dudes for long enough for them to do anything good or become interesting. Everyone on the roster is a toy to him and each new one is shinier and more exciting than the last for a few weeks, then he gets bored and moves onto someone else. It goes back to the same thing: he's trying to recreate the magic of what he considers to be his glory days. Just as he's disappointed that every WWE woman isn't Sable, he's disappointed that every big tall muscle dude isn't Hulk Hogan.
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Vandar posted:WWE: now everyone is being wasted doing nothing
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Jun 23, 2021 18:28
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Vandar posted:Eva Marie has been moved to the Alumni section of the WWE website. "In a completely unrelated story, the amount of money in Brock's contract offer magically increased, seemingly from out of nowhere."
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Jun 24, 2021 19:16
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Davros1 posted:Just imagine I copy/pasted "HAHAHA" a thousand times in this post
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Jun 25, 2021 19:19
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Again, it will never not be funny to me that Triple H spent 20-something years angling himself into position to take over WWE and then Nick Khan came in and completely demolished those dreams in like less than six months Though to be fair, it probably started the moment Vince made NXT go head to head with AEW. Maybe even before then, like during those shareholder conference calls a few years back, where it was reported that the shareholders expressed concerns about HHH's ability to run things after Vince was finally gone.
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Is Charlotte telling Rhea she wants a title match or a hookup here  Eat My Fuc posted:do harm to the wrestling business We're talking about WWE though, which is a sports entertainment company, and thus has nothing to do with wrestling karmicknight posted:people...in this thread don't want the wwf to survive...destroying the company is good Edited to better reflect my worldview 
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Jun 25, 2021 22:39
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Eat My Fuc posted:i’d be more sympathetic to that if the WWF going out of business wouldn’t harm several hundred working class individuals from wrestlers to crew to office people and janitors. I lost my job due to an industry collapse and even if it was an industry full of bad people it put a hurting on me and I feel really bad for the people released today, in a world where indie wrestling still isn’t totally back on it’s feet.  E: also lol that you're out here crying tears for WWE "going out of business" when in reality they'll just get sold to an even bigger company to churn out endless hours of garbage for whatever streaming service that company also owns Sydney Bottocks fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jun 25, 2021 |
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Jun 25, 2021 22:45
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forkboy84 posted:OK, but this isn't doing harm to the broader wrestling business. WWE hoarding talent for the last decade that they weren't using has been harming the business, because wrestling is considerably bigger than one lovely company. There is a dearth of talent on the indies, especially veteran hands who can help the younger generation improve. Meanwhile WWE's roster is absolutely loaded with great wrestlers, men & women, who were signed purely so someone else doesn't potentially make money with them. It sucks for the individual wrestlers being fired but they know that they sign incredibly 1 sided contracts with a monolith that doesn't even know who they are. Just to piggyback onto this: not that WWE is in any danger of going out of business anytime soon (like I said they'd just likely be bought by some media conglomerate and used to pump out content), but if they were, that should be celebrated, not mourned. WWE's a lovely, predatory company run by an old racist pervert whose mind is addled by years of drug and steroid abuse, and who's determinedly out of touch with what his audience actually wants to see. His vision of "sports entertainment" (a term he came up with to camouflage his disgust for actually being involved in pro wrestling) permeated the general consciousness for what, 30 years or so, and did untold damage to the industry in terms of lives lost and careers shortened, and it finally took another rich guy who actually likes pro wrestling and respects his wrestlers to show people that no, Vince's way isn't the only way. And until recently, his heir apparent was his power-tripping racist son-in-law who would have only been different in that he would've paid lip service to liking wrestling, and now the company is apparently going to be cut to the bone in preparation for sale by a typical heartless capitalist who doesn't give two shits about wrestling beyond how profitable it is. A person that Vince hired. WWE dying won't kill pro wrestling. The non-wrestling people (office workers, janitors, etc.) who have job skills that can translate into other companies will more than likely be able to recover from the company shutting down better than most; and at this point anyone who's involved on the wrestling side of WWE will either be grateful that they don't have Vince making GBS threads on them any more (in which case they will be fine), or they won't know what to do without Vince making GBS threads on them any more (in which case they will either sink or swim). Nobody here should mourn WWE's loss if they did go under, any more than they should mourn the loss of any other company, big or small, that treated its' employees like poo poo and operated at the whims and caprices of idiot management. The problem is those companies generally manage somehow to stay afloat for years and years, and WWE is likely to be no different.
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Codependent Poster posted:Nick Khan sucks and people losing their jobs sucks. Again, WWE isn't going out of business. My post immediately prior to yours is discussing "what if" but Nick Khan firing a bunch of people before (likely) trying to sell the company to NBC or whoever isn't the same as completely folding up shop. And this may be a hot take or whatever, but: given the horror stories about the cult-like behavior of WWE that several of the recently-released WWE wrestlers have been detailing, if anything getting fired is probably far healthier for them in the long run, both mentally and physically.
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Golden Bee posted:Wrestling was able to support a lot more people before Vince killed the territories. There were multiple wrestling federations per state. One of the arguments that pro-Vince people made that always puzzled me was "oh the territories would have died out anyways, once tape trading became viable". As a young wrestling fan in the mid-late 1980s, I loved watching stuff from other territories when they were still around and I could get it on cable or UHF TV stations or whatever. I used to be able to see stuff not just from the WWF, but also the NWA (specifically the Jim Crockett stuff), WCCW, Mid-South/UWF, the AWA, and sometimes even the Memphis/Mid-Southern stuff. I never quit watching one fed over another just because a guy was a heel in one area and a face in another. Fans were rabidly loyal to their regional area feds, they weren't going to quit watching just because a flashier product was available on TV (much like how indy fans rabidly support their faves these days, though on a much smaller scale). Codependent Poster posted:No I don't think they're going out of business. But still, the execs are getting paid and they're making a profits and they're releasing people who aren't gonna get that paycheck anymore. Well, unfortunately, that's how it is unless we have a massive socialist revolution overnight in the US, which is less likely to happen than me sprouting a third foot. On my back. Again, some people who got released will be fine, some won't. But as I say, nearly every single person that's been released has been talking about just how cult-like WWE really is (unwittingly, in the case of the former Aliester Black, who made a lot of people here cringe when he would go on and on about how he was 100% convinced that Vince loved every single idea he brought him, which is a very unhealthy level of delusion), and I still say that it's healthier in the long run to not have to deal with that type of environment any more, even if it means needing to find a new source of income. And that's saying nothing of the physical side of their health, especially for the guys who had to go through the knee exploding factory that is the Performance Center.
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JUNGLE BOY posted:https://www.instagram.com/thefreethoughtproject/?hl=en I will say that it's possible Sasha saw that and just thought it was a cool "stand out from the crowd" kinda meme without necessarily knowing anything about the group behind it, so I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt for the moment That said I also didn't see where the OP got "deeply upset" and I also don't think promoting anti-vaxxers (if it turns out that is in fact what she did) should be glossed over as a "minor social infraction" In summary: wait and see Shinjobi posted:I have zero tolerance for anti-vax poo poo. Period. If she starts peddling that poo poo, even quietly, I wanna know. Same here
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Eat My Fuc posted:I mean if she’s anti vax, and you’re not watching or supporting the company already then what’s the point of getting mad about it besides getting and experiencing anger over what you can’t control. In fact, why get upset about anything, ever E: vvv OK, yeah, gently caress Sasha Banks Sydney Bottocks fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Jun 26, 2021 |
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karmicknight posted:I am going to run back what Eat My Fuc actually said, which is, if you are already not supporting the company/Sasha Banks, looking to get mad about instagram likes seems like even more pointless than normal. Probably because it means that yet another celeb most people liked for whatever reason turned out to have garbage views, and if nothing else 2020 was a goddamn banner year for beloved or well-regarded celebs turning out to be absolute pieces of poo poo, and with 2021 half over that trend doesn't seem to be abating
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The drama behind Nick Khan's rapid rise to power in WWE is far more entertaining than anything they're putting on screen. Unfortunately that comes with the occasional spot of bad news like people being fired or finding out a wrestler you liked is a garbage idiot person, but them's the breaks
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Also I wouldn't characterize my or the other posters' responses as "deeply upset" or "mad", just very disappointed. Sasha is charismatic as gently caress and has a lot of mainstream appeal, particularly with younger fans and female fans. It's disappointing that someone with that much charisma and media reach would choose to platform anti-vax idiocy, the same as it is when a wrestler (or another celebrity) turns out to be a Trump lover or a Sandy Hook denier or a 9/11 "truther" or touts some other insane conspiracy theory (that usually ends up having right-wing connotations).
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Place your bets on who will get the "Clayton Bigsby" gimmick
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Drakkel posted:WWE seems to see heel turns in general as their only solution to characters not getting over. That's why like 90% of the talent are either Heels or some weird Undefined Status where they act like heels but you're supposed to cheer them??? Even during the days of Hulkamania, Hogan would often do heel poo poo like raking his opponent's back or eyes with his fingernails, and the audience cheered while the heel announcer decried it (rightfully) as cheating while the face announcer would say something like "turnabout is fair play". Vince clearly figured that would work for every single babyface from then on.
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Ganso Bomb posted:How well does Tom Prichard get along with Kevin Dunn? Maybe Nick Khan wants to get rid of a (probably) overpaid director, or whatever his title is. If Nick Khan gets rid of Kevin Dunn then that is probably the clearest sign WWE is going up for sale. Vince would sooner fire HHH before he'd let Bucky Beaver go.
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sportsgenius86 posted:"He's still with the company" sounds like the kind of thing you say when someone's been demoted or reassigned and you don't want to outright say that. Yeah, it's like when they say someone's on "administrative leave" when they really mean "we're just going over their contract to make sure we can bring them back and fire them without too many problems"
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