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I'm a bit confused as to why some seem so shocked by how well Grosjean and especially Palou did. Grosjean has 10 F1 podiums and is a GP2 champion, Palou nearly won the Super Formula championship as a rookie. That series is very, very tough for drivers not immersed in the Japanese ladder system.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2021 23:00 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 08:02 |
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Ovals, especially short ovals, started to suck when the speed differentials of the cars closed up.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2021 18:05 |
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Custard Undies posted:Very hot take from me. I watched some of the IRL. The pack racing sucked rear end.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2021 18:08 |
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CART tried to do that by running speedway wings on short ovals and it created extremely difficult to drive cars and horrendous racing. Mario Andretti said ~1988-1989 that the cars were getting too fast to be put on short ovals.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2021 18:54 |
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:the best indycar oval race was that fontana death race where like 8 people finished, and the cars could sort of pack race but also they got massive tows that allowed huge slingshots so it wasn't really a 'pack' like you used to see at the terrifying texas races It was actually 6 cars. It also was like an endurance race. It was during the 2000 season’s psychotic horsepower war. Casey Mears (remember him?) finished 4th.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2021 20:00 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:also for all the people claiming that you need packs to make people interested, nobody gave a poo poo about the IRL and people did give a poo poo back in the 80s Indeed. It should also be said early IRL races weren’t pack racing, at least the stuff I’ve seen (‘96-‘97 and a bit of ‘98-‘99) They are bad for other reasons. I also watched Homestead 1996 and it was a good race.
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# ¿ May 17, 2021 18:24 |
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GMR was a good race. I also think many forget that Grosjean is a good driver.
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# ¿ May 17, 2021 18:26 |
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https://youtu.be/BUMsD3y5dw8?list=PL_CdYah-xRnMm5RI_oQmf3Fw-bEBH00Q3&t=1174 Yikes.
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# ¿ May 18, 2021 20:07 |
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Andre Ribiero has passed away. RIP.
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# ¿ May 23, 2021 18:56 |
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He was much better than most give him credit for.
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# ¿ May 23, 2021 18:56 |
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Ribiero was essentially tasked with developing the 1995-spec Honda motor.
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# ¿ May 23, 2021 19:46 |
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Ribiero got a Penske ride when they were almost done developing some of the worst cars to ever take to track, on the worst racing tires ever. feels bad man He was shaken very badly by the Goodyears and never came to terms with how they behaved.
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# ¿ May 24, 2021 03:00 |
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FTW, but I was pulling for Sato.
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# ¿ May 30, 2021 23:30 |
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Generally a good race, but I really disagree with throwing the red.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2021 00:58 |
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Askew is in for Rosenqvist tomorrow.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2021 03:44 |
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Excellent race.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2021 19:35 |
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Askew is also in for Veekay.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2021 15:48 |
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:One day Indycar is just going to be rejected and / or retired F1 drivers. “One Day”
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2021 09:35 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:the 1985 Indycar season had Roberto Guerrero, Bruno Giacomelli, Alan Jones, Jan Lammers, Roberto Moreno and "Oncle Jacques" Villeneuve making starts. Not to mention all the ex-F1 Indycar stalwarts including Andretti/Fittipaldi, or even Sullivan/Rahal. I think most forget that Sullivan and Rahal were actually F1 drivers. There was also F3 washouts like Mansilla, who was surprisingly pretty good but never raced again after. Frond fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jun 17, 2021 |
# ¿ Jun 17, 2021 19:21 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Jimmie Johnson wasn't even good in his last few NASCAR seasons. RA is pretty daunting. I wonder if he will be able to do better than Alfonso Celis Jr.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2021 19:22 |
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I watched Long Beach 1998 again (which is an amazing race) and the Ex-F1 guys in that race alone were; Zanardi Christian Fittipaldi Gugelmin Domenico Schiattarella Rahal Mark Blundell Lehto and I guess you also can include Michael Andretti. It's been the case for quite some time.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2021 19:34 |
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Uhhh yeah. Go actually watch, like, pre 1992 CART races. The lower field quality is atrocious.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2021 15:56 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Extremely bad though the IRL fans liked to call this the best racing on earth because hey it's side by side
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2021 04:29 |
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Speaking of Superspeedways, why was Texas World Speedway (Not TMS - it's a MIS knockoff) never considered for use for either CART or Indycar prior to it's shutdown? I think it would have been ideal.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2021 15:33 |
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Jeff Andretti set a speed record testing in the early 90s there, so unless the deterioration was extremely severe in the late 90s/2000s I'm not sure why it was not used. It would be ideal for open wheel cars
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2021 16:00 |
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Bad Track, Good finish to an otherwise gongshow of a race.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2021 04:34 |
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Uh, I know it's not really their fault per say but Chevrolet looked terrible all weekend here.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2021 04:35 |
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Genocide Tendency posted:I want to know what the thought process was to put Johnson, a 7 time champ on a mostly oval series, in road and street courses only. Himself. Although from what I understand he didn't expect it to be this tough. Perhaps it will shut up the "Indycar drivers are all road racing ride buyer hack frauds that would be eaten alive by any competent NASCAR driver" crew but I'm not holding my breath.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2021 04:40 |
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The Chevrolet cars seem to have had power delivery issues since at least 2017 and also historically have got really crappy fuel economy.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2021 04:42 |
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Chevrolet has like 2 cars that can consistently contend for top positions right now - Newgarden and O'Ward. They are hosed.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2021 05:42 |
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Lundgaard is in for RLL at Indy. : /
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2021 16:49 |
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harperdc posted:Jeff Krosnoff’s fatal incident in Vancouver also took out a corner worker because the catch fencing was behind the marshall station. It was Toronto, and I was there. Also it was really awkward because my dad’s company sponsored Johansson’s car.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2021 20:08 |
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Solid race. This track used to be reliably awful, but not so much anymore.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2021 20:08 |
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"It's incredibly moronic to say that it's completely OK to have teammates, or other Honda teams to be intentionally impeding the progress of a rival who's leading the race, but then take offense to said leader complaining to race control, that their rivals are using team orders to affect race outcomes. You don't honestly believe Hinch was doing nothing but fighting to stay on the lead lap, do you?" Ah yes, the Honda conspiracy. Thank you Racer.com boards.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2021 16:04 |
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I mean, I'm partial to certain manufacturers myself but it always surprises me how partisan GM and Ford fans are.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2021 16:05 |
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RIP Robin.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2021 17:26 |
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Rosenqvist is overhyped trash.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2021 21:01 |
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Sato to DCR.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2021 22:53 |
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The guy is nearly 45 years old, he’s nearing the end of his time as a top line driver.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2021 20:13 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 08:02 |
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Sato was making that lovely Foyt car look better than it actually was/is. Even Bourdais can’t do much with it.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2021 20:14 |