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A franchise-based clique in an attempt to funnel cash flow from North America and Asia to create maximum value for the shareholders and ROI for the funder of the project. Right now the superleague seems far more likely than not to implode onto itself in a few years
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 00:31 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 01:14 |
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QED, this all serves no purpose other than to funnel cash from Asian and North American fans of the future.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 10:23 |
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Rumor here has it that the ESL offered a spot to Zenit and it was ignored. No way to corroborate that, but if so, a bold move to ask in a club which (a) is controlled by UEFA's major sponsor and (b) nobody in the ESL's target markets gives or ever will give a poo poo about
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 12:45 |
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Flayer posted:Sounds fake. Why would you invite a Russian team into your western European league? Just constant problems with timezones. Because Zenit = Gazprom and Gazprom = money This logic is not correct. The last time Gazprom provided any significant financing to Zenit was way back in 2015. All Russian clubs are now poor by modern football standards. That's not to mention the permanent threat of more sanctions. I am not inclined to dismiss this right away precisely because it shows a complete lack of research beyond associating a label with $$$
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 12:57 |
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ilmucche posted:It's a shame that scheduling midweek league games for the same weeks this trash is supposed to be played would punish non-breakaway clubs as well There is no course of action that wouldn't hurt non-breakaway clubs, so might as well rip off the bandaid and completely disregard whatever superleague will be doing
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 15:58 |
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bawfuls posted:The thing about American pro sports league structures is they’re pretty good at suppressing wage growth relative to revenues over time because the owners all act in concert. Now is the opportunity to find that out. The US closed rich leagues are successful in no small part thanks to dominating the sport, either through being the best at the sport (see American basketball players and Canadian hockey players) or through being the only ones who play the sport at all (American football, baseball) Now compare those to the MLS The question that's up in the air is whether the superleague will suck up all the best talent or not. This is very hard to predict right now
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 16:38 |
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Butterfly Valley posted:We did just fine with 'fans' and 'plastics' before op To be fair, "fans of the future" is such an awesomely condescending euphemism that I think I like it better
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 10:30 |
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that was quick
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 19:04 |
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lmao
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 19:24 |
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Crazy Ted posted:Here's my question: The seed money for this thing from J.P Morgan Chase is actually in loans, so if it's already been given out what the gently caress do they do because that hundreds of millions of Euros of extra debt on Real Madrid and Barcelona Bankruptcy is the play here
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 19:31 |
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Scientastic posted:Does this mean I don’t have an excuse to stop supporting Arsenal? I was quite looking forward to it... Supporting Arsenal is reason enough to stop supporting Arsenal and don't let anyone tell you otherwise
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 19:36 |
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dex_sda posted:https://www.espn.com.br/futebol/artigo/_/id/8502603/flamengo-e-mais-dois-gigantes-sul-americanos-conversaram-com-superliga-diz-site My Portuguese reading ability is limited but lol still
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 19:45 |
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sassassin posted:A lot of fancy protest banners have been printed up that won't get used now. Feel for the fans. I'm sure they will be used and some residual lols will be had
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 19:50 |
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biglads posted:Lmao Woodward has resigned Okay I concede the ESL really is superior form of entertainment
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 19:59 |
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rear end cobra posted:Every single second of has been super entertaining One other thing that's funny is how the corporate identity, the branding of the super league is hilariously shoddy and obviously cobbled together over a single all nighter
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 20:06 |
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 20:37 |
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mila kunis posted:so will clubs in a financial hole go bankrupt and trigger a collapse of the football bubble That would be a dream come true but probably not
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 20:49 |
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:https://twitter.com/AFTVMedia/status/1384608404862349314?s=19 We ain't done yet!
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 21:47 |
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Frankston posted:Barcelona are hosed either way lmao I'd imagine something like going ESL would have to be approved by the socios, ¿nó?
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 21:51 |
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CyberPingu posted:I mean financial penalties do gently caress all to these guys, unless you levvy loving massive fines against them which in turn, just hurts the club and not the owners. Like the Glazers would just take whatever fine out of Utd to recoup the loss. The solution has been developed by competition and data protection regulators across the globe long ago, it's called turnover based fines. These clubs may be neck deep in debt, but their turnovers are huge. The question is if anyone will have the balls and/or authority to execute. And that's why you sense check consulting data before implementing solutions. If you don't, you are likely to hurt stakeholders more than benefit them and the value* goes down. *NB this statement does not extend to any comedy value that can be extracted from the project
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 10:27 |
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Vegetable posted:tbh they absolutely could have rode out the criticism. it’s shocking how unprepared they were though. lol if you think that people like Agnelli or Perez are capable of processing any risk analysis or due diligence report that doesn't say "you are awesome and your idea is brilliant and there is no risk, only money for you in its execution"
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 11:17 |
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Syncopated posted:https://twitter.com/MilanEye/status/1384625465424416771?s=20 I hope this is true because if correct and Juventus is also without a "here's more money" proposal, then this is just the right amount of evil to almost vindicate UEFA's conduct* *in this specific matter only
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 16:40 |
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TheRat posted:As much as I hate Perez. That's the end of my post. Mutual annihilation would be great
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 10:28 |
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I don't think there is, in principle, a way to ensure any form of "fairness". You can take commerce out of the equation and nothing will change. The Soviet league, which did not involve any commercial element, was prone to having a limited number of clubs dominate for a better part of any given decade: there hasn't been a point since the 1950s when Spartak Moscow, Dynamo Moscow or Dynamo Kyiv wouldn't have been title contenders for any appreciable length of time. It is possible, however, to at least maintain the mechanical possibility of promotion/relegation because that allows for gradual power shifts over time. Even City and PSG didn't start winning instantly on becoming rich
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2021 15:09 |
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I really want to see the contract There's many a variable and all of the above posters may be completely correct or hilariously wrong Too bad we'll never see it
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2021 14:15 |
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It's unfortunate that they can't kick Real out of this year's CL anymore because Real took care of it themselves
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# ¿ May 8, 2021 16:27 |
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African AIDS cum posted:It could be antitrust etc Still you can't take away the inherent difficulty in arguing that you are screwed over by a cartel when you are an even more of a cartel
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# ¿ May 31, 2021 21:17 |
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Gigi Galli posted:It might have been created for that but their reach has been stretched to cover anything regarding sports. Seems like a good idea to be honest. Arbitral institutions generally get initial funding from whoever established them and then function off of fees for administrative costs. CAS' schedule of costs is here: https://www.tas-cas.org/en/arbitration/arbitration-costs.html Economically what an arbitral institution does is it provides a commercial service for dispute resolution outside of state court systems. The biggest reasons anyone uses arbitration in general in cross-border context are confidentiality (no public court, no public hearings etc.), limited possibility for appeal (lawyer stuff, don't bother) and the international framework that allows to enforce foreign arbitral awards almost anywhere worldwide (unlike state court judgments - these are often unenforceable outside of wherever they were made). Look up the 1958 New York Convention for more on that These reasons initially drove most sports bodies to put arbitration clauses into their statutes and eventually CAS monopolized the sports dispute resolution in general
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2021 14:57 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 01:14 |
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greazeball posted:There's always going to be a threat until the money gets cut off from the project. FAs need to start inserting more exclusivity clauses in their broadcasting contracts somehow, so Sky would lose the PL if they showed matches that weren't officially sanctioned by UEFA/FIFA/whatever. Most jurisdictions (and certainly almost all that matter in terms of market size) make exclusivity clauses very hard to enforce because it's difficult for an exclusivity clause to not be anticompetitive
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2021 10:15 |