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perhaps we've been looking at this all wrong and we should get the guy that shot 50 cent nine times to teach cops shot placement.
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NoDamage posted:
Technically you're correct, this wasn't said ITT, even though it was previously quoted. It was originally posted in the Derek Chauvin Trial thread before this thread was created, which is where this killing was being previously discussed. SchnorkIes posted:It would've been a better outcome if he had let the girl with the knife do what she was doing to do and then arrested her, even if there was a loss of innocent life. The damage to communities from the State parachuting in and performing street executions is far greater than that from literally anything else. No strawmen being created with that statement. Kalit fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Apr 27, 2021 |
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Apr 27, 2021 00:22
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radmonger posted:Are there very different figures available than the ones linked below? I mean police being killed I guess deaths would be a better term.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:22
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willie_dee posted:Firearms officers in nearly every country would of taken that shot and be praised as heroes for saving the girl in pinks life from the attacker. I sincerely doubt this, not least because it involves a child getting shot. No-one is a hero here.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:23
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willie_dee posted:Firearms officers in nearly every country would of taken that shot and be praised as heroes for saving the girl in pinks life from the attacker. What if they missed and killed the other one? Say because of some factor outside of the officers control? A shift in the fight that sort of thing.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:25
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willie_dee posted:Firearms officers in nearly every country would of taken that shot and be praised as heroes for saving the girl in pinks life from the attacker. I notice the unintentional implication here that most countries wouldn't value the life of a dead black child enough to stop them from celebrating a homicide.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:25
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Jaxyon posted:I notice the unintentional implication here that most countries wouldn't value the life of a dead black child enough to stop them from celebrating a homicide. Considering that they unironically used the sharpie test as a stand in for a knife I'm not sure its an unintentional implication.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:28
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Elector_Nerdlingen posted:The point of posting that video was not "look, the cop didn't shoot the attacker", it was "look, the cop got literally stabbed in the neck and not only didn't die, but was still able to chase the guy down". Josef bugman posted:I sincerely doubt this, not least because it involves a child getting shot. No-one is a hero here. Very much depends on the kind of stab. A random flailing whilst their intended target has wrist control and then running vs a deliberate and sustained attempt to stab a defenceless person is very very different. After being around events like https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_London_Bridge_attack and seeing first hand the damage even a tiny knife can do, I can assure you shooting someone actively trying to stab someone is super necessary to save the intended victims life.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:30
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willie_dee posted:Very much depends on the kind of stab. A random flailing whilst their intended target has wrist control and then running vs a deliberate and sustained attempt to stab a defenceless person is very very different. Allow me to restate, again, that the UK has as many knife attacks as the US does(per capita), but it's police kill about 3 people a year. So uh....apparently british knife attacks don't actively try to stab people or what? It's OK to say that de-escalation and disarming tactics can work, you know.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:32
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Jaxyon posted:I notice the unintentional implication here that most countries wouldn't value the life of a dead black child enough to stop them from celebrating a homicide. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_London_Bridge_stabbing The people who intervened in this instance and stopped the killer killing more people were hailed as heroes, not because nobody cares about the murderer, but because they stopped more people being murdered.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:33
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Jaxyon posted:Allow me to restate, again, that the UK has as many knife attacks as the US does(per capita), but it's police kill about 3 people a year. So uh....apparently british knife attacks don't actively try to stab people or what? They can work, but they aren’t reliable and British police officers don’t have guns. It’s very rare for police to roll up and have someone actively try and murder someone in front of them. It’s normally the person has a knife, has made threats or already stabbed someone, and is then detained. Not mid stab as Ma’Khia was.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:35
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willie_dee posted:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_London_Bridge_stabbing Are you trying to agree with me here? Because yes this provides more support for the point I was making.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:37
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NoDamage posted:That's not quite the same thing as "cops should let murderers kill people". See what I mean about nuance being lost? Please, split that hair for me, because I know I'm not seeing the difference. Explain it like I'm five.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:37
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willie_dee posted:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_London_Bridge_stabbing The bystanders also did not shoot and kill the person. Once again, no-one is a hero here. And comparing a tragic and needless death with a terror incident is not something I feel comfortable with. Also, what the gently caress "Yeah we pulled people off of him when they held him down and shot him" that's awful.
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Apr 27, 2021 00:37
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willie_dee posted:They can work, but they aren’t reliable and British police officers don’t have guns. So we're agreeing that 1) police don't need to shoot and kill people in a majority of knife situations and that UK cops prove that. 2) Brown lives are valued less than white ones and when shot people are generally OK with that I'm glad we're seeing eye to eye now with these last few posts. vvv that too Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Apr 27, 2021 |
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Apr 27, 2021 00:39
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willie_dee posted:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_London_Bridge_stabbing Thread has already escalated Bryant from beserker to terrorist (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 27, 2021 00:40
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https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1386392348247134208 Indistinguishable from this thread (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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This thread has been thoroughly poo poo up, I'm closing it. If you want to talk about police, please go do so in the gently caress the police thread.
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