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yeah I forgot what stack ranking was called but there's basically no way that can lead to good outcomes, I remember reading just the most insane stories on mini microsoft
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stack ranking makes sense when you take over a troubled organization (like yahoo or sun) and you know it is full of mediocrities and goldbrickers and people who are deeply unmotivated. firing the worst-performing 20% after arriving, and then firing the next worst-performing 10% a year later, is a quick and dirty way to rid yourself of the worst deadwood and provide a kick in the pants to all the other employees who want to remain but taking a company that is humming along like a well-tuned engine and deciding that every year one in ten people have to be sacrificed to moloch no matter what just seems utterly insane and incentivizes all sorts of awful, company-wrecking behavior
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FMguru posted:stack ranking makes sense when you take over a troubled organization (like yahoo or sun) and you know it is full of mediocrities and goldbrickers and people who are deeply unmotivated. firing the worst-performing 20% after arriving, and then firing the next worst-performing 10% a year later, is a quick and dirty way to rid yourself of the worst deadwood and provide a kick in the pants to all the other employees who want to remain
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FMguru posted:stack ranking makes sense when you take over a troubled organization (like yahoo or sun) and you know it is full of mediocrities and goldbrickers and people who are deeply unmotivated. firing the worst-performing 20% after arriving, and then firing the next worst-performing 10% a year later, is a quick and dirty way to rid yourself of the worst deadwood and provide a kick in the pants to all the other employees who want to remain im glad i dont work for you. lol.
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fart simpson posted:im glad i dont work for you. lol.
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google and apple also do a sort of stack ranking to determine bonuses/RSU grants/raises and such, they just don't auto-shitcan the people at the bottom of the list. roughly, each manager ranks their reports, then they get to spend a bunch of time arguing with other managers on how to merge their respective lists. this process (calibration/alignment/whatever) repeats upwards for several levels of management as far as I know.
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DuckConference posted:google and apple also do a sort of stack ranking to determine bonuses/RSU grants/raises and such, they just don't auto-shitcan the people at the bottom of the list.
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I specifically remember this forum recommending chaos monkeys and that spurring me to read the whole thing. it was an enjoyable read about someone’s views of ad tech, ripping on the valley, his British girlfriend, how not to start a company, and a dumb chapter about racing his buddy in a Tesla roadster
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Hed posted:I specifically remember this forum recommending chaos monkeys and that spurring me to read the whole thing. it was an enjoyable read about someone’s views of ad tech, ripping on the valley, his British girlfriend, how not to start a company, and a dumb chapter about racing his buddy in a Tesla roadster i remember readin it and thinkin the dude shouda used a pen name cuz itll prolly get him fired from some place and here we are
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stack ranking at ge was specifically a response to disfunctional management and a work culture where everyone's top priority was expanding the size of their fiefdom. it was primarily focused on weeding out managers and applied to everyone all the way up to execs. it then got phased out once ge was back to being a functional company rather than a giant mess.
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May 15, 2021 20:37
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not how ballmer thought of it and not how the amazon peeps are thinking of it, im betting
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Plorkyeran posted:it then got phased out once ge was back to being a functional company rather than a giant mess. in a regretful past life i got an MBA and this important detail was certainly not part of that narrative when jack welch's practices were discussed, or it was just an afterthought to the discussion on the benefits of decimating your headcount every year
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bob dobbs is dead posted:not how ballmer thought of it and not how the amazon peeps are thinking of it, im betting e: see above
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bob dobbs is dead posted:i remember readin it and thinkin the dude shouda used a pen name cuz itll prolly get him fired from some place lol yep. I figured he was still at twitface or whatever when he wrote most of it.
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"nothing is more permanent than temporary" it only takes a few years to establish things as "that's just how we do it here" even if you weren't experiencing high turnover because of said policies
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kitten smoothie posted:decimating your headcount every year the one good thing that can come out of stack ranking: an appropriate example of the older meaning of "decimate"
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pokeyman posted:the one good thing that can come out of stack ranking: an appropriate example of the older meaning of "decimate"
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mystes posted:Is it still stack ranking if you just fire all the pedants? only when done by seniority
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nrook posted:pinboard is the Matt Taibbi of tech and should be treated similarly Speak of the devil, guess who just opined on the Apple hiring fiasco in entirely predictable fashion: https://twitter.com/golikehellmachi/status/1394005747227250689
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I love all the people calling out Matt for saying Apple has no Irish presence. I guess facts don't matter lol
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https://twitter.com/dhh/status/1395286598196019200 "We have disabled replies, half our staff has left and we still refuse to acknowledge that racism is a thing, but we sure suffered through that storm just fine"
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pokeyman posted:only when done by seniority I'm laughing at my own joke that nobody else thought was funny (coincidentally, this may also be what the basecamp founders are telling themselves!)
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Blotto_Otter posted:Speak of the devil, guess who just opined on the Apple hiring fiasco in entirely predictable fashion: I was trying to remember if it was Matt Taibbi or Yasha Levine who did that "experiment" at The Exiled where they moved to a foreclosed home in Victorville, CA during the real estate crash and then proceeded to write dispatches from the town as though it was Mad Max. (After some googling, turns out it was Levine.) I was a regular Exiled reader back then, and I distinctly remember the time I went to the site on a random day and there were over a dozen updates, all of them rambling nonsense. Then the very last headline on the page said something to the effect of "So many updates! You know what that means, we've been blessed by the Methamphetamine Fairy!" I guess there's something appealing to our inner adolescent when we read the work of flagrant assholes who seem to be on our side. I don't know if that has become less appealing now because we're in the world of twitter and we can see so much more of these assholes (robbing them of the bits of mystique that helped burnish their image), or if I've just gotten older and have had to deal with too many real-life abusers who masqueraded as gonzo truth-tellers. Maybe this is just a longwinded way of asking the question: Can you imagine how dogshit-terrible Hunter S. Thompson would be on Twitter?
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Loezi posted:https://twitter.com/dhh/status/1395286598196019200 
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That is the post of a man who has never experienced difficulties in his life.
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these execs have just been confronted with evidence that they are no more than mostly-infallible godkings and on top of that they face a second grave challenge: dismissing that evidence as flawed and untrustworthy no difficulties??? how dare you even THINK that
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excited to hear about all of the project management and team communication all of these new Nazi customers get up to!
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“why do all our new customers want stuff to all be eraseable at a single button press?”
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imploding your own company by being a dumbass and then "saving" it after "realising that change had to come from within" or something is 100% silicon valley techbro narrative compliant
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rebranding hey as heil
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:imploding your own company by being a dumbass and then "saving" it after "realising that change had to come from within" or something is 100% silicon valley techbro narrative compliant wasnt their whole point that they werent in silicon valley and they werent techbros, hence the swift implosion when they revealed their dipshittery?
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bob dobbs is dead posted:wasnt their whole point that they werent in silicon valley and they werent techbros, hence the swift implosion when they revealed their dipshittery? yeah they spent two decades building up a brand that they were the civilized alternative to all that poo poo lol
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bob dobbs is dead posted:wasnt their whole point that they werent in silicon valley and they werent techbros, hence the swift implosion when they revealed their dipshittery? maybe the real techbros were the mistakes we made along the way
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PCjr sidecar posted:rebranding hey as heil lol
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:maybe the real techbros were the mistakes we made along the way Techbroh noes
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https://github.com/basecamp/handbook/commit/3041e6561468c159de8a96327e119c88702ecf48
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mod saas posted:https://github.com/basecamp/handbook/commit/3041e6561468c159de8a96327e119c88702ecf48 Absolute 
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mod saas posted:https://github.com/basecamp/handbook/commit/3041e6561468c159de8a96327e119c88702ecf48 the # Making a Career section is no longer a good cultural fit for the making-a-career.md file and has been expunged beautiful
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