UKMT May 2021 - Change the things that need changing and that is the change we will bring about

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therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

endlessmonotony posted:

It is the day of the workers. Today, we celebrate with mead!

And by not going to work.

So just like every other day for me.

Mead is delicious. There�s a company called Gosnell�s which makes a hopped mess that�s really good. Their standard mead is also very nice.

# ¿ May 1, 2021 08:54

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# ¿ May 9, 2024 21:32

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Desiderata posted:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56955084

I can't really describe why this one has got to me. As I get older I find myself wanting to check myself for terrible regressive tendencies, not to become one of those "kids these days" types, sharing social media post about how people are definitely hiding carpet tacks in dog food in the park, and all the other odd things my otherwise wonderful and politically astute aunts and uncles have fallen into. I do hate that social media - shares video "someone was mean to a cat, so we should hang him" morality - the lazyness of feeling distantly superior to someone, everyone hunting the web for a sense of moral superiority. I do of course feel disgust at the cruelty, but I personally (you may feel different) do not think animals are more important than humans, and will always donate aid to the homeless before any donkey sanctuary. I usually worry about the person, and think "drat, what messed you up that badly".

But here, yeah, these rare creatures laid an egg the day before, people are watching excitedly on the webcam, the joy of nature and trying to amend to the species for the deaths we humans have caused - and some bastard thought : nope, can't have that, carefully conspired in the dead of night, and cut it down with a chainsaw. I genuinely wish for something horrible to happen to whoever did that - and for whatever reason my immediate thought was - "bet it was some 4chan prick doing it for online clout" - in reality it was probably just a cranky local landowner, but maybe my brain really is becoming poisoned by too many birthdays.

I need to go take a walk in the sunshine.

There is something deeply depressing about that incident.

# ¿ May 2, 2021 11:38

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

happyhippy posted:

And its to demand that one set of billionaires gets replaced with another set.
Would be funny to see the Glaziers get replaced by some dodgy as gently caress Russian oligarch though.

Or the Saudis.

# ¿ May 3, 2021 00:08

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

So Laurence Fox has added a glass of milk to his Twitter profile. My wife (who is better informed than I am - not that difficult) informs me that it�s a symbol of white nationalism. Nice.

# ¿ May 3, 2021 09:31

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Andrew wants the yacht so he can do unspeakable things in international waters.

# ¿ May 3, 2021 13:22

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Comrade Fakename posted:

What is spiritual abuse?

I�m guessing like a cult leader but without the sexual element.

# ¿ May 3, 2021 15:38

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

keep punching joe posted:

Dunno if these are still good as Charge bikes are no more and the branding got bought over by other companies but these were the absolute poo poo when they first came out.

https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Charge-Spoon-Cromo-Saddle_65215.htm

drat, I need a new saddle soon and this looks excellent. Reasonably priced too.

# ¿ May 4, 2021 11:46

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Mebh posted:

Broccoli is basically the best loving thing though. It tastes great and is good for you.

I love a good steak but yeah, it's a rare thing (har har)

Now steak and broccoli combined? Hell yes.

I endorse this post. I hope you roast your broccoli.

# ¿ May 4, 2021 12:23

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

multijoe posted:

The only ethical diet is veganism, and the only tolerably ethical diet is vegetarianism

This is true. I eat meat and fish but very occasionally. I shouldn�t but I just like it too much. Wife is vegetarian. Has been vegan on and off but cheese and yoghurt* are her nemesis.

*Tim�s Dairy yoghurt is amazing. Especially the raspberry.

# ¿ May 4, 2021 14:18

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Nothingtoseehere posted:

I don't care for animal suffering, therefore don't care for the moral arguments for veganism. If you do, fair play to you to get angry or evangelical about it. But meh, industrial slaughter of pigs to give me delicious bacon doesn't bother me.

This is actually appalling.

# ¿ May 4, 2021 14:50

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

stev posted:

I'm against animal suffering enough to feel guilty about all of the meat that I eat.

Yeah this, pretty much. But I have reduced that amount considerably and avoid beef and chicken in particular

# ¿ May 4, 2021 15:08

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Guavanaut posted:

I would hunt and eat two thirds of British males in 10 years before the predicted end of their life, as is their wish.

Gammons on the menu.

Yuck. As someone who prefers organic free-range meat the idea of eating a gammon is very unappealing. I can�t imagine most of them have diets and lifestyles that would lead to tasty, high-quality meat.

# ¿ May 4, 2021 15:17

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

multijoe posted:

I don't get how the burgers have got so good but the sausages are still so blah

I saw a Beyond sausage the other day which I�ll try. The Linda McCartney Lincolnshire ones aren�t bad (and as a bonus are GF)

# ¿ May 4, 2021 16:39

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

franco posted:

Are the Linda McCartney saussies a different recipe now? I haven't had them since I was vegetarian over a decade ago and they were really dry/mealy compared to other options at the time.

I think the Lincolnshire ones are new(ish) because one couldn't get GF Linda M's and then they came out and now one can. I don't find them dry or mealy.

This Is... fake bacon is pretty good too. And Moving Mountains hotdogs are also decent, So are the Quorn ones.

# ¿ May 4, 2021 17:47

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

More meat replacement chat:
Tofu never seems to get mentioned much, but the �to-foo� brand tofu is pretty great. Good texture and the smoked one tastes great even on its own. That has pretty much replaced chicken breast for us as �generic protein� to put in stir fry etc. Tonight we roasted it with schwarma spices and had wraps, and I genuinely can�t see why I would have chicken over something like that anymore.

I had some in a Sri Lankan curry tonight.
There�s a good smoked tofu that works extremely well in a vegetarian kedgeree.

I always think that the brutality of the meat industry must dehumanise the people who work in it too. One must have to repress empathy and compassion to such a degree to tolerate that kind of work. Or so I imagine. Maybe I�m being naive/self-righteous (not quite the word I�m looking for a but close)/projecting.

# ¿ May 4, 2021 23:19

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Chuka Umana posted:

Is Keir circumcised?

I know an ex of his (her daughter is in my son�s class); I�ll ask her.

# ¿ May 5, 2021 22:44

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/nicolelampert/status/1390592194873004033

A Daily Mail journalist gives her advice.

Point 2 isn�t terrible, to be fair.

# ¿ May 7, 2021 10:33

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Gonzo McFee posted:

It's literally a right wing person blaming a right wing Labour loss on the left wing.

Her first point labelled 2 isn�t doing that and isn�t terrible.

Guavanaut posted:

"Labour needs to be more TERF and put Jess Phillips in positions of power."

In the context of Mail journos, "Talk about ambition, businesses, the high street as much as food banks." means "draw a wedge between the 'deserving' and 'undeserving' and individualize success and failure as matters of merit rather than systemic issues" which can go to dark places very fast (which, to them, is part of the appeal I guess).

In that context sure, but as an approach I don�t think it�s bad advice. She does say �business etc as much as food banks� so that isn�t being ignored. Anyway, it�s not really worth arguing over. I have no doubt that her politics in general suck but sometimes even utter shits can make good observations.

ANYTHING YOU SOW posted:

The Labour right love to talk about suporting people who want to "get on". It's never very effective, maybe because without any concerete policies it comes across as a patronising, meaningless platitude.

Policies? Who needs those?

therattle fucked around with this message at 10:51 on May 7, 2021

# ¿ May 7, 2021 10:48

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

�Having shat the bed, I am now going to swing the lovely sheet around�

# ¿ May 8, 2021 19:34

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Someone do the Downfall bunker but with Starmer.

# ¿ May 8, 2021 22:13

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

I had my second (Pfizer) last week. When we went for our first jabs it was very quiet and we were in and out in 5 minutes (if not less). Last week the clinic (in Wood Green, N London) was really busy, and we had to wait in a line outside. It was fast and efficient still but the volume of people was many times greater. It took us about 30 minutes each. I felt a sore arm first time, this time I felt really tired the next day, but I often feel really tired so it is hard to know if that was a side effect.

# ¿ May 13, 2021 14:51

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

bump_fn posted:

this would never have happened if the palestinians hadn�t indicted bibi for corruption!

I mean, that�s probably true (in a way); he is absolutely cynical, vain and power-hungry enough to have provoked this to hang onto power. loving evil man.

# ¿ May 13, 2021 23:24

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Regarde Aduck posted:

I really hope people (ok me, I�m talking about me) aren�t going to potentially die because of arbitrary supply of different vaccines. They didn�t have to rush. They could have maintained restrictions until we all got the �good vaccines�. So now we have the potential situation where everything opens because �people are vaccinated� but one vaccine does little and they get super infected because no one else cares anymore. Murdered by postcode lottery.

I thought they were all pretty good. And even a less good one is much better than nothing. What�s your particular concern?

# ¿ May 14, 2021 12:08

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

I loved the film. I remember reading the script years ago and really loving it. It�s always a pleasant surprise when a good script actually becomes the film one hopes it�ll be.

# ¿ May 16, 2021 22:58

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

The Perfect Element posted:

Be careful what you wish for.

I actually quit my last job because I had too much free time, and I had an existential crisis about whether just playing video games / watching movies all day while occasionally waggling my mouse so my Teams status remained 'active' was actually how I wanted to spend my career.

I might be a loving idiot.

I quit my job to go freelance because I was bored and comfortable but after a while I had enough of being bored and comfortable. It's actually quite enervating. I think some amount of work (as long as it isn't really lovely work) is important. It gives some purpose. That said

u brexit ukip it posted:

The pro move here would be to start taking on part of your wife's job and then you both take half the day off

Half a day of work a day is plenty.

# ¿ May 18, 2021 10:22

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

kecske posted:

conditioning people to tie their perception of self-worth to the labour they exchange for an income is the biggest ruse ever, imo.

I don't think that people necessarily have to work for income (and derive self-worth from that, or, worse, from the level of income they get), but they have to do something useful/worthwhile with at least some of their time.

# ¿ May 18, 2021 10:27

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

stev posted:

Does levelling in an MMO count?

Absolutely.

Bobstar posted:

Bullshit Jobs covers the concept well: "I had the perfect job, I basically didn't have to do anything and got paid loads of money, so why was I miserable and quit to do something harder and worse-paid?" (paraphrasing)

Turns out doing nothing hurts the brain, especially in the system where it's associated with being lazy and bad.

Yeah.

crispix posted:

in my experience there is actually a non-negligible proportion of people who are so disruptive when added to any group of people that paying them to not work is a worthwhile service to society at large

I am not going to argue with you on that, I am sure it is true. But I am also quite confident that a lot of even those people would feel better if they spent at least some of their time doing something productive, even if that is tending an allotment and growing some vegetables.

# ¿ May 18, 2021 11:15

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

stev posted:

This is going to be one of the great cultural works of our time.

Lost In La Mancha Vol II (in which an initially innocuous documentary charts the story of an unfolding disaster).

# ¿ May 18, 2021 11:30

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

I'm self-employed/freelance. I go from project to project. When I am on a project (brief, intense, pressured) I work hard. Sometimes really hard. When I am not on a project, I don't, and feel just fine about it, because I know that when I need to work, I will. This high-intensity/low-intensity cycle works really well for me. I am not a 9-5 grafter.

# ¿ May 18, 2021 12:10

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

My slacking got more sophisticated later on in that same job. Eventually my computer was Internet connected, but everyone could see my screen anyway.

So, I built a fake webpage on my very own website, that looked exactly like a screen in the Oracle procurement system (the main focus of my job), and bastardised some guestbook code to build a rudimentary chatroom hidden inside it.

Then I chatted endlessly to my girlfriend without anyone knowing I wasn't doing any work

To this day it remains my slacking magnum opus

That's extremely impressive.

This is a very good article and well worth reading.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/may/18/a-jewish-case-for-palestinian-refugee-return

# ¿ May 18, 2021 12:31

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

I just felt tired the day after P2 but that�s not unusual.

# ¿ May 18, 2021 22:41

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

I've seen all the Shrek films (my son likes them) and they are OK. I quite enjoy them. They are neither masterpieces (like Paddington) or POS like some others I have seen but can't think of roght now.

# ¿ May 19, 2021 12:31

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

If I want to see a film (because I have heard good things, or it's a director I like etc) then why would I watch a trailer? The less I know going in, the better.

# ¿ May 19, 2021 12:49

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Failed Imagineer posted:

People are free to like whatever they want, but I feel like the nerds who micro-dissect every new Marvel trailer for clues about what Disney IP is going to be shoehorned into the new film, are irredeemable losers who need deprogramming

No argument from me. As an aside, of all the studios Disney is the most aggressive, rapacious and unpleasant.

# ¿ May 19, 2021 12:58

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I think the film industry is in the same bind as it was in the 50s and 60s with the coming of television - the desperate need to differentiate the in-cinema experience from the Netflix experience means that they're just throwing money at pointless bullshit, meaning that the cost of movie making has gone up so much that they don't dare greenlight anything that they can't make a billion dollars on. Just like the last time it'll settle down as the market rebalances and (good) directors will learn to use CGI and digital filmmaking as effectively as they did colour and Cinemascope.

What we've lost, probably permanently, is the B+ standalone film. We're never going to see another Trading Places or Princess Bride or Groundhog Day* because they can't be stretched out into a 3-film franchise, let alone 5 series on Amazon Prime. Now you might say that's a fair swap for the effective rebirth of episodic drama and comedy on the VoD platforms, but sometimes you just want 90 minutes of good solid entertainment that's nicely tied up at the end, rather than what is effectively a neverending series of sequel hooks.

* To be clear I don't mean these are lesser films - those three are solidly in my favourites - just that they're neither Serious Cinema like, say, The Godfather nor Mechanically Reclaimed Cinema Product like all these loving superhero movies.

This isn't entirely true. It's true mostly of the studio system, which has mostly retreated into massive blockbuster territory, but that mid-budget space has to some degree been taken up by the streamers and larger independent productions. That said, there has been consistent downward pressure on budgets and mid-range films are much scarcer than they were. You say that we are never going to see another Groundhog Day, but I just watched Palm Springs (on Amazon, I think) which was in many ways an updated Groundhog Day with a twist. There are fewer of these films than they were but they have not and will not disappeared. It's just that the studios have retreated to mostly massive franchises (which are less risky), and rely on other companies to make film which they can then acquire to feed their distribution pipelines. They are still making some smaller films but not nearly as many, plus a few studios have specialised divisions which focus on smaller titles, like Fox Searchlight, Sony Pictures Classics and Focus.

Camrath posted:

Anecdotal, but my brother is a Lib-dem voting anti-lockdown media type, who flies all over the world selling film rights for a crazy salary and who thinks the problems are bad but the causes are excellent. While I�m a fudge-making communist.

So no.

I probably know him. What's his name?

therattle fucked around with this message at 20:50 on May 19, 2021

# ¿ May 19, 2021 20:47

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

This is such transparent bullshit. "We need to reform the BBC because of events that took place 26 years ago"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/21/government-bbc-diana-report-martin-bashir-panorama-interview-inquiry

# ¿ May 21, 2021 11:45

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

namesake posted:

Socialists shouldn't really dedicate much time to saving utterly flawed and adversarial institutions like the BBC. It's the state broadcaster in a capitalist state - it'll never go as far as we need media to go and so while it may not be a suitable target (except for furious venting about how its failing in its halfhearted attempts to be a public broadcaster) it's not something that's strategically important to defend.

If you're worried about monopolisation of the media by far right elements then spend your time supporting local investigative media and spreading leftwing media collectives to try and create that alternative media ecosystem which does things people will listen to, rather than looking at the pitiful state of the BBC and saying that's all we have left between us and oblivion.

This is different from other institutions like the NHS because it's impossible to duplicate the variety of provision for health on an independant basis so the level of struggle has to be over the national institution itselsf, it's merely insanely hard to develop an audience for media.

On a more principled based argument, it's vastly more important to defend the ability (and therefore right) to criticise power than to worry about the variety of speech in abstract. The BBC certainly doesn't enable criticisms of power, as it simply takes its cues from the existing media environment which is pro-government and generally right wing, and often blunts those criticisms so I don't see any innate value to it.

It�s not dependent on advertising and speaking for myself I LOVE ad-free TV, especially for children. That in itself is worth defending.

# ¿ May 22, 2021 11:06

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

Miftan posted:

I think most discussions, at least itt, of the BBC being poo poo is about its news division. I think everyone agrees that educational no-ad TV is a very good thing, or even making shows that aren't beholden to ad money/shareholders can be a very good thing.

I know but that ignores an element of it which is useful and good, so for all the �gently caress the whole rotten edifice of the BBC� (which isn�t not singling out news, because comedy and drama have also been discussed), let�s not throw out the baby with the bath water.

# ¿ May 22, 2021 11:47

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

The UK independent film sector would be hosed without BBC Films and Film4.

# ¿ May 22, 2021 17:26

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# ¿ May 9, 2024 21:32

therattle: Jul 24, 2007; Soiled Meat

I�ve had both doses and both were very efficient. There was a wait for 2 because they were processing many more people, but the throughput was impressive nonetheless.

# ¿ May 22, 2021 23:24

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