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The Perfect Element posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/10/train-firms-worker-bonus-email-is-actually-cyber-security-test?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other didnt some american company do this last year and get absolutely poo poo on for it? who reads about crap like this and thinks "yeah, sounds great, I'll steal that"
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Jakabite posted:Yeah, I think the common theme is that leftists have a tendency to have faith in the rightness of their ideas to the point that they believe that if others are just exposed to their ideas they will, naturally, see that rightness. I and I’m sure many others fell into that trap when Corbyn was elected - the public were finally going to be properly exposed to socialist ideas, and when that happens their correctness will be self-evident! Realistically although we are right, from average Joe’s perspective we aren’t any more right than anyone else and will still have to engage in all the same techniques and tactics to win them over. What about the last five years tells you the public don't agree with leftist ideas? The tories are outflanking Labour from the left for a reason. Right-wing labour are spectacularily imploding for a reason. The policies of the parliamentary left have universal appeal and gave Labour their best election turnout in two decades. The current spat between Unite and Labour HQ is that Unite ran policy polls and found out voters in Hartlepool were very keen on Corbyn era policies and would reject a labour party that wasn't interested. Then this actually happened, so Labour and the media have gone radio silent on this in case anyone draws the correct conclusions. Howard Beckett shouting about it on twitter isn't going to change this, as funny as it is. The issue is that the narrative is outside our control - people that meet activists trust them, apolitical types who hear "we should have hospitals and not force poverty on people" want to vote for that person. The actual narrative, though, is dictated by a few very small cliques based in London that are completely enmeshed with westminster and too insecure to accept they're inbred scum who've lived on a diet of horseshit since the 90s, so resorted to spending years accusing the parliamentary left of everything under the sun until antisemitism stuck. I don't know any leftist activists that think narratives are irrelevant, but everyone I've spoken to about how we go about breaking through with messaging just ignores it day to day, because it's not within their power to alter. What's the option? SWP newspaper campaigns but not run by rapists? Momentum TV but harder? Unite TV?
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May 11, 2021 17:20
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Jakabite posted:I don’t know but this sounds like defeatist bollocks to me. If you can’t change the narrative or build your own you will not win. Period. Waaaa it’s too hard and it’s all in the hands of the media is an excuse because the left can’t be arsed to have some original ideas or try anything new. Who cares if the ideas poll well? They still lost. Ideas don’t exist in a vacuum and ignoring that fact because it’s hard to deal with or would force a radical change of tack is why we live in an ever worsening neoliberal hellscape. If you can’t even change minds with policies that people like then you have to pull your loving finger out and work out why that is - the right manage to sell harmful dog poo poo, so we need to work out how to sell good stuff. ‘The right controls the main organs of media’ might be true but it just sounds like feeble whining. Find another way. Do real stuff. Stop focusing on the parliamentary game. Find a way to build a narrative or lose, it’s as simple as that. I'm not disagreeing with you or being defeatist, I'm just frustrated. I'm not interested in the labour party as a vehicle for careerists, but if they end up with another leftist in charge I will gleefully do what I can to push that boulder back up the hill. My hope and expectation of the parliamentary left is that we have to keep loving trying, when what we saw in about 2018 was that people began disagreeing with newspapers and the BBC because they weren't willing to just accept that good things are, in fact, bad. I think around 2017-2018, we saw a genuine interruption in the standard narratives of government, and the long-term consequence of that may turn out to be that we finished off austerity as a viable political idea. At the same time, it's frustrating to see the media luck out on one of a million accusations and completely destroy the Labour party in response, so I'm entirely sincere when I ask "well, what do we do?". I'm game for doing this poo poo until the idea that good things are good is normalised enough that the media detonate their own credibility instead of ours which, again, we got close to - and that was the first dissenting voice in parliamentary politics in decades. This is doable, but loving hell the big, catastrophic losses to a cackling cabal of loving lunatics is exhausting. And after that, I feel it's a bit unfair to vent those frustrations by telling people they just didn't do unspecified narrative change tactic hard enough. 2019 is far enough behind us that my lasting impression of the corbyn era is "well, at least now I know those bastards bleed like the rest of us", but I still think there's no set of actions anyone could've taken that ended up with us winning that election. Jakabite posted:I think the extra-parliamentary left is crucial here - you can’t just make it about voting, you have to go beyond that and do things in people’s communities that matter to them. We have to, not as a party or a group, but as a movement be building these narratives in every interaction we have. This is solid advice, it's just a shame the extra-parliamentary left no longer routinely threaten to burn down press offices like they did in the 1920s. It would go a very long way to achieving susbtantial political change if wealthy westminster bubble sorts actually expected to face the consequences of their actions, in any form at all.
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bump_fn posted:https://twitter.com/BBCJLandale/status/1392477425481756681 surely he's more likely to start a blog with gwyneth paltrow
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May 13, 2021 01:01
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anyone that's been around farm workers, especially on farms that host placements, has probably heard the pseudo-mythical story about one of the vet students deciding that "don't come in on your period" is an ignorable sexist suggestion, and the irate and possibly-sexist-anyway old farmer then having to deal with an enraged boar trying to murder everything so it's not the worst analogy
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May 13, 2021 22:11
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MikeCrotch posted:Reel Politik had the right take on it, where they pointed out that Keith has less direct political experience than Wes Streeting, and is just clearly out of his depth. He also doesn't have a natural power base within the party so has surrounded himself with loyal but also inexperienced advisers. Hence why when it looks like poo poo is going south Mandelson and co are managing to worm their way into his ear because Keith is flailing and has nowhere else to turn. I know a couple of starmer voters that I still talk to regularily (mostly extended fam) and they hate him with a passion that impresses me.
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May 15, 2021 12:54
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Last year I had an ant infestation that took days to sort out, this years incursion took half an hour. They really seem to hate essential oils, so I forced them into retreat with a creeping barrage of Oust then dumped half a bottle of olbas oil on the floor, mopped the room, and jammed the entrances with little olbas soaked cotton balls. Fastest I've ever dealt with them, and smells much nicer than the vinegar/cinnamon mix I used last year (ymmv)
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May 16, 2021 17:01
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Smash Mouth killed more Americans than the 9/11 attacks and it's completely irresponsible to not bring this up in a conversation about Shrek.
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May 19, 2021 12:41
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the unfortunate moment when you realise the political failure you're mocking was once head lawyer for the uk jabby posted:https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1395028031266299912 it's probably this, but it's also funny that the labour right hate the labour party so much they're now against electing their own members
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May 19, 2021 17:31
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nobody dies from oral thrush, you die when the fungal infection finds somewhere to lodge internally and a way past your immune responses. You generally also need to be seriously ill beforehand, but in a century without antifungal drugs you can probably skip that bit and get there straight from dental abscess.
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May 24, 2021 01:32
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the famine-as-genocide is the part where england enclosed so much land that only perfect harvests of the best crop would keep a peasant alive (the standard European practice of the day), and then got into diplomatic slapfights with everyone that said "its bad to let people die on purpose" before eventually sending some mouldy corn over to poison the remaining survivors. It didn't hit britain because britain wasn't entirely composed of already malnourished subsistence farmers whose pastoral lands had been stolen to be sold as entitlements within living memory. Ober posted some toff correspondences years ago that demonstrated that the response was disbelief and resentment, leading to the mouldy corn. It was a UN-compliant genocide on the second and third definitions above, and the only real doubt is whether the absentee landlord class understood enough to know it would lead to millions of deaths before they'd resolved not to back down. It should probably also be clear that if the English had understood this, they would have done it much more efficiently to minimise potential for political repurcussions - which is what happened in Bengal, this time using an internal market to cause subsistence crop shortages, with full knowledge and intent of the consequences. e; damnit twisto Spangly A fucked around with this message at 23:20 on May 30, 2021 |
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Guavanaut posted:That's true, but treating it as an epidemiological matter, as a blight, it must have passed through and massively lowered yields within England, especially around traditional potato farming (whether for food or feed) areas in East Anglia and Shropshire, before it hit the Highlands and Ireland. Remember the blight came back twenty five years later and the land league organised rent strikes, food shipments from American-based refugees, and direct action against the work and existence of the bastard middlemen. It went so smoothly that people actually moved back home afterwards, and then blight-stricken Connacht became the epicenter of the ghost mary maoist insurrection. It was very much about distribution, and about the closest thing Britain ever get to a truly testable hypothesis on landlordism.
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