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Also in regards to twisto's bigpost on the last page:quote:goddamntwisto posted It would have been interesting (and I mean that in a value neutral sense*) the idea of seperating the force into investigative and intervention roles like that. The idea being that there are a lot of good thinkers out there who would be a huge asset in terms of investigation who are put off by the physical requirements, and also a fair amount of recruits who just want the chasing and hitting without all the paperwork afterwards. They absolutely hosed this at the last second though, because IIRC it was due to happen just before May's police cuts and recruitment freeze came in, and when it came back up all the existing officers had kicked up a massive stink about ihub officers not having to pass the full physical, and CID detectives also complaining because they all had to come up through uniform, so they changed it. Which is a pisser because again, you go right back to the force being able to exclude people with physical limitations while doing absolutely nothing to stop the knuckle draggers signing up for their state sanctioned fight outside a pub on friday night. * As in, I realise there are huge, glaring issues but also it's a very different way of doing things.
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PNGYAKUZA posted:What a fella, is this supposed to make him look tough, down to earth? If anything it makes him look like a clown which tbf worked wonders for BoJo I mean he did, but not because of the boxing. goddamnedtwisto posted:However, my point was more about the fact that a lot of the worst problems in modern policing comes from the fact that we've stripped back almost every other arm of the state, meaning that police are now the front line of our social care system. Like the old saying goes, if all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail, and if all you have are batons, well, you end up where we are now where the "solution" to homelessness is criminalising it. In fact most police forces *also* recognise this problem (and most individual coppers too, for that matter) but the problem is they'll never actually properly complain about how much of their time is spent on things better suited to social workers, addictions specialists, or just a friendly face to talk to because if anyone actually listened and fixed it their budgets would get cut. She has been doing her best to put across the idea that 'defund the police' doesn't necessarily mean shut them down and let anarchy reign, it means move funding away from the police to other services so that they can deal with things themselves. Especially in the US where instead of funding mental health services, local forces are buying loving APCs so that they can extrajudicially execute members of the public when they riot about lack of public funds. Ironically, increasing adequate funding to these other services means the cops being more able to deal with the things they should be involving themselves in, like violent crime, dangerous driving or stopping intimidation of vulnerable people. She's gotten a few officers on board about legalising weed by pointing out how much more time they would have if they didn't have to keep hunting down kids snoking weed, kids selling weed, and kids stabbing each other over who's patch this is to sell weed. I was surprised on a recent episode of Trashfuture when they were talking cop stuff and Alice put across that she personally didn't agree with getting rid of the police force completely, but she seemed very reluctant to say it because it's a very unpopular opinion to be saying in leftist spaces. I kind of agree with her though, I just don't have faith in humanity to think that if there were no cops that everyone would sort themselves out or that things wouldn't get a LOT worse. I'm not sure what the solution is though. More accountability for cops? An independant body with actual legislative teeth that oversees the cops? But then who stops them from becoming puppets of MI5 or the current government? Even the idea of further splitting the investigation / intervention roles would probably led to a situation where the intervention role gets split off to essentially Dave Courtney's 50 flat nosed geezers, or the government contracts it out to Serco or Group 4 and we end up with Paul Blart trying to chase down the guy who stabbed you. The problem I suppose comes to lack of faith in people all the way down. The system we have is horrible and could do with massive reforms, but I can't imagine we'd be better off in general if it didn't exist. E: jesus, spelling. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 14:30 on May 1, 2021 |
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Edwin Poots is a character from a Terry Gilliam animation and nothing you can say will convince me otherwise.
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Goldskull posted:Will give them that, was an absolute Pro set up at the Crick Centre by St Pancras, was in & out in ~20mins.
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"Jacob Rees-Mogg, leader of the House of Commons, wants the package of 25 to 30 bills in the Queen’s Speech to deliver key sections of the Tory manifesto." There go the workers rights. "Including a planning bill to clear obstacles to housebuilding and broader development." More lovely new builds everywhere that are somehow even worse quality than they are now, and an admission that the housing market is basically the one industry we have left. "Under the bill, all councils in England will have to designate land either for development or preservation." Developers will now be able to pressurise ailing councils to sell off public land. The home counties will of course designate everything for preservation while northern councils are going to have to sell off any green land they still have. "The business department has just completed a public consultation seeking views on how the arrangements can allow the government to make strategic interventions in industry." Again, this'll be the absolute ramping up of things like fire & rehire and zero hours contracts for anyone doing the actual labour if they threaten companies bottom line at all. "There will also be bills to create a series of freeports: low-tax zones featuring simplified planning rules that ministers have said will serve as hubs for high-value manufacturing and innovation. Sceptics have cited research suggesting they tend to shift jobs and investment around the country, rather than generate new business." I'm more concerned that they tend to attract massive amounts of organised crime. "Business secretary Kwasi Kwarteng will meanwhile sponsor a bill to establish a “high risk, high reward” scientific research agency that was the brainchild of Dominic Cummings, Johnson’s former chief adviser." JOIN ME MR BOND IN THE INNOVATION ZONE No really, we are probably going to render large chunks of the country uninhabitable because Cummings heard Chernobyl is now cool. "A procurement bill will give small and medium-sized companies greater opportunities to secure government contracts, and allow the public sector to buy British when the deals are not subject to international trade rules." Well if there's one thing the pandemic has proved, it's that only good things can happen when the government are allowed to hand out contracts with zero oversight. "The bill will reverse key aspects of a contentious 2012 shake-up of the NHS which handed greater operational independence to the health service and sharply increased the role of competition." This is the only one that seems good? If they're reversing the role of competition that's good. It depends what they're moving the greater independence away from though. "An environment bill, carried over from the previous parliamentary session, will include creation of a new environmental watchdog for England and fresh commitments on biodiversity." I fully expect it to be a trump style department for companies to bribe so they can do whatever the gently caress they like, filled with climate deniers. Also carried over from the last session means 'we couldn't get it through before but now we have a majority we're forcing it through.' "Other measures are expected to liberalise rules on gene editing in agriculture, a cause long promoted by Johnson as one of the supposed benefits of Brexit." Tough on bees, tough on the causes of bees. "Home secretary Priti Patel has secured a slot in the Queen’s Speech for her strategy on tackling violence against women and girls, which will focus on improving the low and declining conviction rates for some sexual offences, especially rape." I cannot wait to see what draconian insanity they try to hide behind this, safe in the knowledge that anyone trying to criticise it is going to get brigaded by mumset.
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franco posted:This is one of the most bizarre articles I've read recently (from both the interviewer and the interviewee). Apologies if the formatting is a bit messed up - my dad is a Telegraph subscriber so I bullied him into sending me it. quote:“Ah! But I don’t have any showbiz friends left,” says Fox triumphantly. “It’s supposed to be a horrible thing to say, but I think Nigel Farage is amazing. I had lunch with him. He was really supportive and kind.”
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sinky posted:I googled to find out who Allison Pearson is and the first result is It's like all the cunts saying masks 'don't do anything.' No, masks stop other people getting it if you have it. Yes they don't protect the person wearing it, but it still lowers the risk of one case wandering round the supermarket from turning into hundreds. I swear this all goes back loving Thatcher and her cult of individualism poo poo. They can't imagine doing anything for other people rather than themselves. Gonzo McFee posted:Lawrence Fox should be studied like an ISIS recruitment video. The right wing radicalisation effect of divorce on the male middle aged mind is too powerful to be ignored. 
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Local election pros: Our labour candidate is a transgender lesbian who is campaigning on affordable public transport and housing, so is unlikely to be a terf. Local election negatives: She is a 'comitted christian' and boy does she let people know about it all over her social media.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:Doesn't mean IP rights aren't bullshit, but this isn't evil Bill Gates shutting off vaccine production from the Third world via IP law - it's decades of neocolonialism making it such much of the Third world doesn't have the expertise or production facilities to make vaccines reguardless of the IP status and partnership deals. Saying that they don't currently have those facilities and then saying they shouldn't build them is continuing the status quo where US companies make the drugs and then ship them over. AZ may say they're making the drug 'at cost' but I suspect that the way they work out the cost of making the vaccine involves some very hollywood accounting. Guavanaut posted:I hope non-dairy cheese gets a lot better sometime soon. I wish there were more lactose free cheeses, it'd be nice to be able to enjoy pizza without having to take lactase half an hour beforehand. Sheeze and violife can gently caress right off.
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There are two made up wolves inside you, one is a made up vegan lecturing their friends about how meat is murder, the other is a made up carnivore harrassing vegans over dinner. The one that wins is neither, because they only exist on reddit. E: as an obligate carnivore the vegan wolf is also unlikely to win because it looks so weak
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goddamnedtwisto posted:and once again for others ITT, if you *haven't* watched The Good Place, you need to rectify this immediately. If a sitcom based around the philosophy of ethics, the nature of good and evil, and the existence of an afterlife that manages to make all of it funny doesn't at least intrigue you then I really don't know what to say to you.  Also they literally have this discussion about eating a tomato and all of the negative poo poo that goes into it, in the context of the bad place having completely rigged the world so that everything gives you net negative karma, so nobody has actually managed to get to the good place in thousands of years. Unrelated, but one of my friends asked who to vote for 'tactically' in the local elections and I'm having to break it to him that the reason the site he was using is no longer there is because it was a lib dem front that swung several seats in the last election. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 16:43 on May 4, 2021 |
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Clap for Carers wasn't even instigated by any carers. Very similar energy to the whole 'participation trophies' thing, another chud talking point they get very smug and self satisfied about.
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I got two texts, forst was the national scheme asking me to book and the nearest place they could find was in the middle of Reading at rush hour. Got a second text this morning from the GP surgery offering me a slot just down the road, so cancelled the one in Reading.
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Solefald posted:I have no idea who to vote for. Every candidate is a wet egg. Communist Thoughts posted:I'm gonna vote greens UKMT: Vote green eggs and gammons
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I can't find candidate statements loving anywhere. Our local council's site is a mess and just put the names up in a pdf, no statements. Same with the electoral comission. I've managed to find some of the statements on WCIVF but not all of them. Isn't there supposed to be somewhere they're supposed to put them? Will they have them at the station.
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Jakabite posted:Wait there isn't?
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Spolied my ballot for the first time in my life. Voted for the trans lady running for local council, since she seems alright but the other two ballots got 'insufficient info available on candidates' scrawled across it in pen. Didn't vote for the PCC because all of their statements were just buzzword garbage and promises to put police back on patrol (which is by far the least efficient use of officers imaginable). The labour canditate's entire argument was a list of official positions she's been in, and the independant candidate is responsible for this piece of baz cop insanity. County council Labour candidates didn't even bother putting up a statement or any visible social media presence (one of them might have a paywalled linkedin), so no way to tell if either of them are good labour or starmerites. Sanitary Naptime posted:
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Breath Ray posted:- a more diverse cast will get you more listeners AND revenue. you fulltimers appear to be five white blokes and while you might think the chemistry will suffer, its a great time to go broader. lets have a commitment to recruiting someone new by christmas at the latest I think diversity representation is a goal to go for in terms of guests - it's not like this is the result of a recruitment process. E: Thought Elijah was still in the cast. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 04:39 on May 7, 2021 |
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smellmycheese posted:And then Tony Blair’s son should be just about the right age to take the reins
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SpaceCommie posted:Zarah Sultana once said she'd celebrate Benjamin Netanyahu's death (and Blair's and Bush's) and supported violent resistance by Palestinians, so if she ever was made leader Labour would go back to being the anti-Semitic party, whilst the Tories continue to provide material support to Erdogan. Never going to happen though, she wouldn't get past the machinery of the party or the votes of the members who haven't left. Also EvilHawk you can absolutely put across your opinion of Corbyn, just be prepared for us to put across ours. You don't wade into a forum called 'Debate & Discussion' and then say you "can't be arsed to argue" when people want to debate and/or discuss the thing you posted. If you make an assertion, you need to provide evidence to back it up. peanut- posted:The most bizarre thing I keep seeing come up again and again from the right is that the wrong Miliband brother won the leadership. And people can argue all they like about the minutiae of who was actually better (out of the two it's Ed by a country mile), but like Owl said: OwlFancier posted:People aren't rational, they start with assumptions and work backwards to justify them. People looked at the photos and decided the David 'looked' more like a PM, whatever the gently caress that means, and centrist journos simply will not admit that they did exactly this with Kieth. They angled for the person who looks like they could play a PM on telly while knowing absolutely nothing about policy or understanding politics at all. And now they're mystified about why the man they thought would be statesmanlike and competent has ruined the party through incompetence. There are far too many centrist opinion havers who have no loving idea what's going on and are writing column after column of consent manufacturing about why everyone should vote for the person they snap judged as looking nice. And when you point out their apparent lack of understanding, they point out their job as a political columnist in a national newspaper. Like their parents getting them the job 40 years ago and being allowed to spout poo poo ever since is evidence they are right, rather than a damning indictment of the entire system. My theory about Kieth though is that he entered politics at a very weird time when the opposition was able to strategically abstain and play about at the amendment stage to make some effective changes to laws that were pretty much inevitable, and he genuinely still thinks that's how it works when opposing a majority. Add this to a party machine that are feeding him bad stats to pull the party to the right and you have starmerism. Darth Walrus posted:The Starmerite branch of the media-political ecosystem are absolutely talking about poor people as if they're thick, and I'm not even talking about the squalling over the current terrible local election results. She's exactly the kind of loving idiot with no political savvy I was talking about. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 12:49 on May 7, 2021 |
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Borrovan posted:Slim chance of them realising that I know, but their gravy train is gonna derail itself otherwise, and that's no real loss to the rest of us.
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Comrade Fakename posted:Common sense ideas:
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SpaceCommie posted:Nate also has a blue tick and is a veteran of the QC wars.
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Starmerism is best summed up by pointing out that footballers, backstabbing ex-spads and loving icecream are all providing a more effective opposition to the conservatives than he is. 
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OwlFancier posted:Be fair, they have also spend the last year and a half saying that labour is poo poo and you shouldn't vote for them. (Yes Kieth as a mewling sub is my new bit)
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peanut- posted:Isn't this a lot to do with the street tree felling thing? Even though it's funny, local politics are local.
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The sad thing is that the ghouls behind the destruction will happily walk out of there and into consultancies and board positions. Even if Labour do recover they'll be a loving wreck during the closing window of action where we could actually do something about climate change or the onslaught of tech automation.
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Good news from Scotland though, the boy finally did it: https://twitter.com/scotlibdems/status/1390690567684755461?s=19
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Evolve politics are claiming this is real: Highlights: - current labour leader - the pleading expression of a man what had the weans turned against him.
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forkboy84 posted:I have been reliably informed it is "antisemitism"
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/alexnunns/status/1390691539224080390?s=21 
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OwlFancier posted:The people who were most keen on brexit don't work, they're old and already set for the rest of their lives. It makes no difference to them whatsoever whether the rest of us eat poo poo because of it. When I was growing up, I remember reading the governor of the Bank of England Eddie George saying that the north needed to suffer job losses to preserve the prosperity of the south. I don't know what made me angrier; the fact that he said it, or the fact that everyone seemed to be treating it as a good thing. I can absolutely see how anger like that festers, is weaponised into anti eu sentiment, and is then inflamed further post-brexit when dickhead journos start turning up in your back yard to go on racism safari and ignore every other issue that hosed you over the last 40 years.
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According to the papers, working class just means you have an accent. Middle class is usually an economic conceit and can mean anything from an office job to a columnist earning over 250k a year, as long as you have dinner parties and no accent. I've heard renters struggling at a call centre call themselves middle class and I've heard building firm owners with no mortgage and a fleet of land rovers call themselves working class. E: Milo, Nate & Hussein of Trashfuture did an episode about home counties guys, going into this peculiarity of the essex londoner who thinks he's working class while owning a business and an ex council house: https://trashfuturepodcast.podbean.com/e/unlovked-britainology-3-understanding-home-counties-guys/ It doesn't help that when some of the older generation bought their houses it was still possible for a dual income household with genuinely working class jobs to qualify for a mortgage. When my mam and dad bought their place back in the mid 70s it was £76k and they were able to pay for it on the wages of a gas fitter and a hairdresser. Their parents thought they were mad because the mortgage repayments were a relatively huge chunk of their income. I've literally had to explain to some people over 50 that it costs more to rent than it does to pay a mortgage now, and every time they keep saying that can't be right and I must have gotten something wrong. There is still a sizeable chunk of the 60+ demographic who still think that renting is cheaper than a mortgage. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 03:53 on May 8, 2021 |
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Ed did say least have periods where he had a significant lead in the polls. Remember there was a lot of expectation that Labour would come out of 2015 as the largest party. Ed had the Edstone but at least he waited until he lost the election to quietly disappear it. Kieth won on his list of ten pledges and then immediately ignored all of them one by one. Pesky Splinter posted:Big Tiddy Vampire Giant for Labour Leader IMO. Rustybear posted:what is she actually advocating here? people who disagree with me shouldn't be able to challenge me? err ok?
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