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RIP Paul Walker
Feb 26, 2004

Buying used cars is such a goddamned nightmare right now that none of that sounds particularly fishy. I recently sold a car for my full and high asking price to the first person who saw it, and made profit selling another car to Carmax - this being a used car I bought from a dealer recently.

Shits crazy. It’s why I’m dragging my parents old dead Forester XT home with me and replacing the engine. The profit should be drat near enough to pay off the rest of my Hyundai!

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BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


The funny thing is that my wife and I recently leased new vehicles and the lenders are still doing the residual values at pre used car value jump levels. This either means at the end I can buy them out and resell them for a profit or use the low residual as a bargaining chip for getting the next shiny shiny. This all depends on prices not returning to where they were within 3 years and even if they do it is not like I am losing out apart from a higher monthly payment unless I just turn them back in and give the lender a bunch of free money (not happening).

I assume the residuals are low because the automated systems they use for pricing cars for lease are lagging behind real world prices or they expect them to return to previous levels and don’t want to eat a bunch of depreciation so are taking the risk on people buying them out at the end vs returning them as normal since they may not understand how a lease really works.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


They say you can tell a lot about the previous owner of a vehicle by the CD they leave in the CD player. If it's country they're probably a redneck. If it's rock they're probably a hoon.



Last update. I can't believe i lost sleep over how terrible this could have gone.

Obvious recent work done:

New hose clamps, disa valve has been off, new rear rotors and brake lines. Date code on the tires is 39th week of 2018 at which point according the car fax it was around 160k when they were manufactured. Someone put a bunch of money into this thing. the tires cost more than half of what i paid for the whole vehicle.



There was never any hail damage, the only damage is a small scrape on the front bumper and a dent on the front of the hood.



It does have the self leveling suspension, but it's all perfectly functional. It seems to have too much rear camber, but it sits nice and high.



The buttons, stalks and armrests have no wear whatsoever. The button on the shifter still has all it's texture.



It was ordered through the individual program with a black headliner, tinted windows, ski bag, high-fi speakers that sound great, and the sport package, seats, steering wheel and suspension. The ski bag has never been out of the ski bag hole before today.



The A/C is nice and cold, it has dual exhaust, all the windows, mirrors, seats, and buttons work. The only things that don't work are the middle lock button and the power steering wheel adjustment, and one headlight. The tick seems to be coming from the exhaust and has gotten pretty quiet. It doesn't even seem to have any real leaks either. It still has the original windshield with stickers about using the phone it's provisioned for while driving. The engine, trans, AWD system, suspension are all solid. There are no clunks or rattles, if it wasn't for the tick you couldn't tell it's running. for 11 l/100km on the trip home which is kinda okay. It still has the original matching full size spare with the original tire on it. There's no indication this thing has 74k kms on it, never mind 174k. It's the nicest vehicle I've ever got from an auction, and that includes the 5 year old king ranch f-150.

Powershift fucked around with this message at 21:52 on May 3, 2021

nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

Sick. All this is really making me want to walk over to my neighbors and put in an offer on their S40. It's been basically idle since the pandemic, but it does run. Don't let the motivational speaking get to you too much though.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
Someone tried to steal my friend's 2017 Tacoma base-rear end model work truck that had literally nothing in it :confused:

Got in by screwdrivering the door lock but then hosed up the ignition trying the same plan to start it, to the tune of $2500 worth of damages. Very bizarre that someone would think they could steal a relatively modern vehicle in that fashion.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

Powershift posted:

They say you can tell a lot about the previous owner of a vehicle by the CD they leave in the CD player. If it's country they're probably a redneck. If it's rock they're probably a hoon.




I regretfully left my rage against the machine CD in my E30 that I sold to gabe Newell :argh:

Imperador do Brasil
Nov 18, 2005
Rotor-rific



Used car price chat:

A few years ago I was looking at new Fiesta ST’s at the local dealer, marked down to like $15k or so, and today on my FB marketplace a ‘17 showed up for $20k. Holy poo poo.

And this article popped up about someone selling an EP3 Civic Si on Doug Demuro’s site for like $14k and change. I bought mine which is arguably a worse color (silver instead of blue) but otherwise equally clean, and similarly modified and equipped for $4k like a year and a half ago. Holy poo poo again.

The used car world has gone insane.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Imperador do Brasil posted:

Used car price chat:

A few years ago I was looking at new Fiesta ST’s at the local dealer, marked down to like $15k or so, and today on my FB marketplace a ‘17 showed up for $20k. Holy poo poo.

And this article popped up about someone selling an EP3 Civic Si on Doug Demuro’s site for like $14k and change. I bought mine which is arguably a worse color (silver instead of blue) but otherwise equally clean, and similarly modified and equipped for $4k like a year and a half ago. Holy poo poo again.

The used car world has gone insane.

ST's likely aren't gonna get any better any time soon either. I've been keeping an eye on them hoping to find a decent-enough one for around 10k and no luck, and especially not after this last year.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

Imperador do Brasil posted:

Used car price chat:

A few years ago I was looking at new Fiesta ST’s at the local dealer, marked down to like $15k or so, and today on my FB marketplace a ‘17 showed up for $20k. Holy poo poo.

And this article popped up about someone selling an EP3 Civic Si on Doug Demuro’s site for like $14k and change. I bought mine which is arguably a worse color (silver instead of blue) but otherwise equally clean, and similarly modified and equipped for $4k like a year and a half ago. Holy poo poo again.

The used car world has gone insane.

Is it ever going back to normal? If yes, when? Same question for real estate.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


builds character posted:

Is it ever going back to normal? If yes, when? Same question for real estate.

new car prices are rising sharply and those owners are keeping them longer due to 84 month financing. it might level out in a few years if the chip shortage eases.


houses: nope, hosed forever, gonna get worse. Canadian houses in toronto and vancouver are now a million dollars north of where the correction should have happened.

Mustache Ride
Sep 11, 2001



When's the economy going to break? I took a glance a rates today, and I thought I got a good deal last year refinancing to 2.75%. Now I'm thinking of refinancing again.

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe

Powershift posted:


houses: nope, hosed forever, gonna get worse. Canadian houses in toronto and vancouver are now a million dollars north of where the correction should have happened.

at this rate I'll forever be a road warrior.
Just need to build a shop to pull behind....

TheBacon
Feb 8, 2012

#essereFerrari

The only chance I'll have of owning a home here is if my mother passes away unexpectedly (I really hope not) and I get to have her 520sqft bargain $363k house she bought in 2004 after my parents divorce finalized. The house I grew up in was really really great but my piece of poo poo father purposefully got foreclosed on basically so that's forever gone

It's why I have been thinking about moving somewhere 'cheap' like where my friend lives just outside Seattle lmao.

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


TheBacon posted:

The house I grew up in was really really great but my piece of poo poo father purposefully got foreclosed on basically so that's forever gone

Hope his nose graft went well after he cut it off to spite his face.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009

Powershift posted:

new car prices are rising sharply and those owners are keeping them longer due to 84 month financing. it might level out in a few years if the chip shortage eases.


houses: nope, hosed forever, gonna get worse. Canadian houses in toronto and vancouver are now a million dollars north of where the correction should have happened.

I'm hosed because I'm about to move back to the US and need to buy a house and at least one car, maybe two

RIP my bank account

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Tyro posted:

I'm hosed because I'm about to move back to the US and need to buy a house and at least one car, maybe two

RIP my bank account

Well. If it comes down to a choice between the two, remember this. You can live in a car, you can’t drive a house

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
honestly thinking about doing the smart thing and selling both cars

edit: then buying a white FC RX-7 Turbo II :gritin:

KYOON GRIFFEY JR fucked around with this message at 01:02 on May 4, 2021

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe

Powershift posted:

You can live in a car, you can’t drive a house

You can if its both.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

TheBacon posted:

The only chance I'll have of owning a home here is if my mother passes away unexpectedly (I really hope not) and I get to have her 520sqft bargain $363k house she bought in 2004 after my parents divorce finalized. The house I grew up in was really really great but my piece of poo poo father purposefully got foreclosed on basically so that's forever gone

It's why I have been thinking about moving somewhere 'cheap' like where my friend lives just outside Seattle lmao.

lol its not cheap outside of seattle

shy boy from chess club
Jun 11, 2008

It wasnt that bad, after you left I got to help put out the fire!

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

honestly thinking about doing the smart thing and selling both cars

edit: then buying a white FC RX-7 Turbo II :gritin:

The perfect plan

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


BraveUlysses posted:

lol its not cheap outside of seattle

The islands aren’t too bad. Vashon seems nice.

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe

BraveUlysses posted:

lol its not cheap outside of seattle

Ohio is only 2300 miles outside of seattle.

Ugh, I'm probably gonna be looking around seattle too.

TheBacon
Feb 8, 2012

#essereFerrari

BigPaddy posted:

Hope his nose graft went well after he cut it off to spite his face.

He's a piece of poo poo I basically stopped talking to before that happened, but the call in the afternoon while I was at the DMV to deal with registering my first car saying they will be there to put a chain on the house at 0600 the next morning was fun and cool.

BraveUlysses posted:

lol its not cheap outside of seattle

it is compared to the bay area :negative:

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


TheBacon posted:

it is compared to the bay area :negative:

My grandmother-in-law lives in Santa Barbara. That area has million-dollar sales with a demolition permit in hand.

TheBacon
Feb 8, 2012

#essereFerrari

Advent Horizon posted:

My grandmother-in-law lives in Santa Barbara. That area has million-dollar sales with a demolition permit in hand.

Ya I grew up in SF, it’s wild. Although full tear downs are rare due to zoning permit whatever stuff, but many frequent 1 wall reminding standing ‘tear downs’

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
What I hear from the two realtors I know is that the biggest driver in the market in Chicago right now is Boomers downsizing. They're selling their big, family homes and buying up all of the ~1,200 sqft starter homes for tens of thousands above asking because they have the money to bully other people out of the market when they've set their sights on a property
Who buys the Boomers' old houses en masse, allowing the market to behave like this, they don't tell me. But it's nice to at least know why home ownership will be out of reach for a couple years. Again

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


Real Estate Investment Trusts are buying them to rent out.

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


Are the boomers even selling? It sure seems like they’re downsizing but keeping and renting out the bigger house.

Here’s everything on the market near my house:



A couple thousand houses, several large condo complexes, a couple trailer parks, and one house for sale.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

BigPaddy posted:

Real Estate Investment Trusts are buying them to rent out.

That's the only thing that makes sense to me, but that's probably also why they wouldn't tell me who was doing the buying. Landlords are... people I've been vocally critical of

E:

Advent Horizon posted:

Are the boomers even selling? It sure seems like they’re downsizing but keeping and renting out the bigger house.

Here’s everything on the market near my house:



A couple thousand houses, several large condo complexes, a couple trailer parks, and one house for sale.

The house doesn't have to be publicly listed to be sold. My realtor took us to a couple of showings on the "realtor only market". One was a still lived in house that the seller didn't want to let a bunch of random people tour because of her small kids, the other was a unique property that was actually a little 900 sqft house with 5 expansions put on it, including a basement and attic, and the seller was real cagey about who could look at what on the house

The Door Frame fucked around with this message at 03:40 on May 4, 2021

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

BraveUlysses posted:

lol its not cheap outside of seattle

My house outside Seattle was cheap.

$30k and a few hundred hours later it's almost structurally sound and livable again.



cursedshitbox posted:

Ohio is only 2300 miles outside of seattle.

Ugh, I'm probably gonna be looking around seattle too.

Your truck's always welcome on my plot of land (about an hour's commute away)

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
1 bed/1 bath condos in my 'hood last about 30 minutes on the market if they even make it there. In my building from the early 70's, one just went for $490k, thanks to NEWSOM and the SOCIALISTS

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

So I got vaccinated 2 weeks ago (first dose of AZ) but noticed for the past couple days my nose has been somewhat stuffed and had a periodic hacky cough although my lungs feel fine (not congested). I assumed it was from yard work (power raking lawn and having it all blow in my face) and otherwise feel fine... even been doing cardio training every day for the last 3 days, but according to the provincial self assessment tool I need to either be tested or isolate for 10 days. And presently Alberta is turbofucked with new infection spikes.

I really don't think so though, I literally feel pretty much 100% otherwise.

Oh the irony of coming down with COVID after I've been implanted....

Used chat: I'm going to be getting a new company silverado within the next few months.You can absolutely bet I'll be looking long and hard at the buyout for my existing 2019 Z71 1500.

And congrats on the score Powershift.

LobsterboyX
Jun 27, 2003
I want to eat my chicken.
A few things:

Whats an Italian tuneup? - is that like the quick carb rebuild where you rev the gently caress out of it, then slam your hands down over the carb and let the engine suck the poo poo out of the carb?

I woke up early today, showered, picked up my dusty laptop bag, packed up, got in my land cruiser and drove... to work... at an office.... I haven't felt so human since last March.

Whats the consensus on a newer (2-3 year old) Volvo XC90 for my wife?


Edit:

um.... is the pandemic still a thing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g9MHIL_9qI

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
Italian tuneup just means revving the piss out of a car/driving it to redline like you stole it in the theory it cleans out carbon buildup on the plugs or something (as a result of driving it too timidly).

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


The original name apparently came from the ~1950s, when people in the US would drive fancy imported European sports cars like they were big-engine, low-revving classic American cars, so the plugs and everything would soot up and make the engines run like crap, a big problem before the days of EFI. A good hot blast on a fast road would clear out everything and make it run well again. And I'm sure the mechanics didn't mind, either.

Warm it up, run it to the redline, drive it at high revs for a while, 3rd gear on the motorway is good. Get the engine really cooking, burn off any moisture in the oil. Most people generally don't rev above 3000 RPM and are too "nice" to their cars. I feel it whenever I have get a car share car that has only ever driven in the city, some hard acceleration and a good blast on the motorway really does make everything feel more smooth.

Diesel cars are especially bad for this, because their EGR valves generally activate at a certain RPM (around 2500 on a normal diesel car), and it's perfectly possible to drive a diesel basically forever at such low revs. That leads to the EGR valve fouling from soot buildup and repairs/replacements. If you drive a diesel, run it properly warm ideally every time you drive it, and don't be afraid to rev it. My diesel Panda was really bad for this, after a week of city driving, I could blow a huge sooty cloud out the exhaust on the first motorway on ramp.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk
See also: apprentice tune up.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
Italian tuneups were a thing earlier than the 1950's, it's been around since..... ummm..... basically Italian cars were a thing.

Anyway much to my relief finally got a 5G implant booking for late June. Gimme the loving vaccine already!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Ether Frenzy posted:

Italian tuneup just means revving the piss out of a car/driving it to redline like you stole it in the theory it cleans out carbon buildup on the plugs or something (as a result of driving it too timidly).

Ah the old Bill Cosby in his Shelby trick. "Gotta get the gunk out"

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

honestly thinking about doing the smart thing and selling both cars

edit: then buying a white FC RX-7 Turbo II :gritin:
That's our plan, sell off multiple and replace with a single fun one.

BigPaddy posted:

Real Estate Investment Trusts are buying them to rent out.
There is also Chinese investors who are buying a poo poo load of US real estate. Just a quick search but "Chinese buyers have led foreign investments in U.S. homes for the past seven years. In 2019-2020, they bought U.S. home properties worth $11.5 billion, or little more than a sixth of the total, according to a report from the National Association of Realtors (NAR)." So yet another way China is loving us over.

LobsterboyX posted:

Whats an Italian tuneup? - is that like the quick carb rebuild where you rev the gently caress out of it, then slam your hands down over the carb and let the engine suck the poo poo out of the carb?
It's already been explained but reminds me of my old roommate that worked on old minis and other British junk. A good 3/4 of what he fixed was just taking it to the mountains and beating the hell out of it for a day. All his customers were older and babied their cars too much. Got to drive a lot of fun old cars helping him out.

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Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


It happened with more modern cars too, my mum owned a 2002 Rover 25 hatchback which she drove about 7 miles a day to and from work all at leisurely pace. It went for a service one time and the mechanic said it needed to be run hard for a couple of hours so the key was handed to me, a crisp £20 note placed in my hand for petrol and I was told to have fun. It really did feel restricted at first but a few long blasts up the motorway and some back road work it felt lots better.

Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 13:11 on May 4, 2021

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