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Dawgstar posted:I've never listened to it but I'm told that comes up more than enough that if you were hoping for good stuff out of 83 Weeks you'll probably be disappointed. To play devils advocate, in his podcasts he shares a lot stuff about business side of pro wrestling (like how WCW was making money with syndicated tv shows). So if you in to that, you should find some value in his podcast.
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drat, really good start to the season. I've always had a soft spot for Pillman Jr. but this just makes me want to root for him even harder.
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The weird thing about the termination notice is that Pillman didn't have much of a need for one. His contract was up April 17, 1996, the story of the termination notice wasn't reported until after he signed with the WWF in June, and there appears to be some disagreement over when it was sent. Meltzer's work has always implied it was in February to get over the ECW debut. Kim Wood suggests in Dark Side that it was days or less before the April 15 humvee wreck. (Ring of Hell does, too, but that may have come from Wood.) Liam O'Rourke's book puts it in the middle, a few days before Uncensored in March, implying it was sort of a compromise to explain Pillman's absence from the main event after he pulled out when he realized the extent of how much it could mess up his gimmick. If we assume Kim Wood's version—which he may have been telling for over a decade now—is the accurate one since he has an absolute steel trap of a memory, then what would the point have even been? Why would he bother getting a release days before the expiration date? And how much did it get him even if it was earlier? It doesn't seem like he had gotten THAT far in his negotiations yet, after all.
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It sounds cooler to be fired for being a loose cannon than having your contract quietly run out.
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I’m just stocked they didn’t spend more time on “i respect you, booker man” arguably the most kayfabe breaking thing on tv at that point.
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man that pillman episode hosed me up, especially the stuff with brian's funeral and the kids.
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Hearing Junior freak out from the spider was a much needed oasis. Then hearing him talk about reaching out to his terrible mom and mending fences with her. I caught up to this episode on Mother's Day.  EDIT: Clarification. animeluva1 fucked around with this message at 21:35 on May 9, 2021 |
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No matter how much she wants to amend for being a terrible person, I don't think I will ever get over Melanie basically telling Rochelle to kill herself
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Hearing the Observer interview with Kim Wood was great. I had the worry he was just kind of an angry poo poo but he comes off like a lovely guy
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TheKingslayer posted:Hearing the Observer interview with Kim Wood was great. I had the worry he was just kind of an angry poo poo but he comes off like a lovely guy He's fascinating in that he was connected to a lot of wrestlers and was a fan himself, but never actually was "in" the wrestling business. So he doesn't have to worry about burning bridges or breaking tradition when he tells stories about how crazy everything was.
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I finally listened to Evan and Jason on Renee Paquette's podcast, which means I guess I'm now free to talk about Zandig chasing Evan off of his property, because he told the story on there. That was an interesting day in Slack.
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I won't believe the story unless it contains him yelling "JEEZUS!" before, during, and/or after the chase
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Codependent Poster posted:I won't believe the story unless it contains him yelling "JEEZUS!" before, during, and/or after the chase I imagine he screamed that exact promo at Evan as he's chasing him. "Ooooooaaaahh! Evan Husney! You're gonna die!!" 
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davidbix posted:The weird thing about the termination notice is that Pillman didn't have much of a need for one. His contract was up April 17, 1996, the story of the termination notice wasn't reported until after he signed with the WWF in June, and there appears to be some disagreement over when it was sent. Meltzer's work has always implied it was in February to get over the ECW debut. Kim Wood suggests in Dark Side that it was days or less before the April 15 humvee wreck. (Ring of Hell does, too, but that may have come from Wood.) Liam O'Rourke's book puts it in the middle, a few days before Uncensored in March, implying it was sort of a compromise to explain Pillman's absence from the main event after he pulled out when he realized the extent of how much it could mess up his gimmick. I think Kim just has the timeline screwed up, he agrees with Dave when it comes up in their interview as happening to get over the ECW debut.
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i like how kim wood's kitchen table has now somehow become one of the most famous/important tables in wrestling history and nobody even went through it
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https://twitter.com/darksideofring/status/1391855419828719616?s=21 Schedule for the first half of the season.
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heel turn posted:https://twitter.com/darksideofring/status/1391855419828719616?s=21 lmao at the gif thing when these topics are dark as gently caress Tell us how you feel about child abuse in three emojis or less!
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MassRafTer posted:I think Kim just has the timeline screwed up, he agrees with Dave when it comes up in their interview as happening to get over the ECW debut.
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davidbix posted:Still doesn't explain why the newsletters didn't get a whiff of it or why they still paid him through official channels. Kim definitely talks about him getting paid through official channels in reference to it, so he's not confusing the two. As for why? WCW did a lot of wacky things.
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MassRafTer posted:Kim definitely talks about him getting paid through official channels in reference to it, so he's not confusing the two. As for why? WCW did a lot of wacky things. I'd really like Dave or Wade to clarify when they first got wind of it, though, and if it was just as simple as not reporting it because they already knew they were being worked. (Which is fine! I'd just like to make sure the narrative is as coherent as possible.)
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i wish they didn't waste the effort of a warrior episode The idea i wanted to replace that with is already an episode to be aired later (kanyon) and I'm sure i subconsciously remembered/stole that while forgetting it. GOod job Cavauro fucked around with this message at 05:03 on May 11, 2021 |
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May 11, 2021 05:00
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The Warrior episode is the one I am most interested in for original research because it feels like a certain researcher is very close to linking Warrior to even worse people than he already is and maybe we'll get to see some of that here!
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May 11, 2021 05:05
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heel turn posted:https://twitter.com/darksideofring/status/1391855419828719616?s=21 most looking forward to because its insane but can be morbidly hilarious is Collision in Korea most looking forward to because it will be like a serial killer netflix series The Dynamite Kid
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May 11, 2021 05:17
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Are they going to do one on XPW and its insanity such as having The Messiah having his thumb legit cut off in a home invasion believed to be ordered by the owner who is quite possibly the sleaziest man in pornography and think of the ground that covers.
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Lid posted:Are they going to do one on XPW and its insanity such as having The Messiah having his thumb legit cut off in a home invasion believed to be ordered by the owner who is quite possibly the sleaziest man in pornography and think of the ground that covers. yeah, the remaining topics are XPW, FMW, luna vachon, bruiser bedlam, the steroid trials, kanyon, and the plane ride from hell
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May 11, 2021 05:35
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saffi faildotter posted:bruiser bedlam I hope they get the Crime in Sports guy in for this one, that episode was fascinating
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May 11, 2021 05:38
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Most looking forward to the episode on Gage because it's the only thing I haven't heard of before the season was announced.
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Grem posted:Most looking forward to the episode on Gage because it's the only thing I haven't heard of before the season was announced. prepare to become gang affiliated
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Lid posted:Are they going to do one on XPW and its insanity such as having The Messiah having his thumb legit cut off in a home invasion believed to be ordered by the owner who is quite possibly the sleaziest man in pornography and think of the ground that covers. Wow, XPW is even worse than I'd heard.
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Lid posted:most looking forward to because its insane but can be morbidly hilarious is Collision in Korea I'd be most interested in seeing the WCW guys in North Korea (on the bus, in the hotel, Bischoff getting caught jogging, etc.), but I know such footage doesn't actually exist.
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Maybe we'll have a reenactment of Sasaki and Hokuto having really loud sex in the foreigner hotel in lieu of footage.
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May 11, 2021 14:26
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Not a S3 episode, but I'm amused at how utterly normal New Jack seems during his interviews, aside from the bladejob-addled forehead.
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May 11, 2021 14:33
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May 11, 2021 14:37
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I've read the longform oral history of the Korea show a couple of times so I'm probably looking forward to it the most, even if just to see how much more exaggerated some of the stories might be now that they're being told on camera instead of just a text interview. Grizzly Smith is going to be LPOTL-Gold-Star levels of terrible Hoping XPW episode has every ECW undercard guy who went to the parking lot to whip the poo poo out of them lol
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The odds of XPW talking heads including noted lovely ref and XPW mark Jonathan Barber and his unpublished book XPW: BLEEDING WAS ONLY HALF THE JOB is greater than 1% so it might be a disaster.
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May 11, 2021 15:52
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Dawgstar posted:Wow, XPW is even worse than I'd heard. Oh yeah, Rob Black is absolutely terrible.
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Lid posted:The odds of XPW talking heads including noted lovely ref and XPW mark Jonathan Barber and his unpublished book XPW: BLEEDING WAS ONLY HALF THE JOB is greater than 1% so it might be a disaster. Did Barber actually finish the book? I'm assuming they were able to get Kaos on the XPW episode, since he's still active in SoCal and runs the Santino Bros school. I'm hoping they managed to find out where Messiah has been hiding for the past couple years, so we get the story of his attack directly from him. Other than those two, I'm not sure who would be available since a lot of the earlier XPW guys are dead. I guess they could get Shane Douglas to talk about the move to Philadelphia and everything at the end of XPW.
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May 11, 2021 16:11
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If it's any reassurance, I made sure to provide working links to BLEEDING WAS ONLY HALF THE JOB.
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The good thing for Vice is that wrestling is wrestling so they'll always have plenty of material for future seasons. Hope they do some Mexico/Japan-centric episodes in future seasons.
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