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neoaxd posted:"One of the most legendary wrestlers ever, Al Snow" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKBdywCu77E
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God, what a loving burn. I assume his answer involved jokes about living in basements, their friend Mark, or mentioning that he used to work for an extremely profitable company at their peak
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The burn is really good, but my favourite bit is that they identified themselves as Neville Southall.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:God, what a loving burn. I assume his answer involved jokes about living in basements, their friend Mark, or mentioning that he used to work for an extremely profitable company at their peak IIRC he said that Vince McMahon hired him so Vince must have thought he drew money. I have to believe his entire "I'm a serious man who takes Wrestling seriously" thing is a bit because how do you have a career as a comedy jobber who's career highlights were A blowjob Joke and a Dick Cheese Joke, and then try to turn that into claims that you want to love and protect the serious sport of Professional Wrestling.
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Gonzo McFee posted:IIRC he said that Vince McMahon hired him so Vince must have thought he drew money. Yeah but if you've ever seen his bland ECW & indies stuff from the '90s before the Head gimmick it makes it easier to believe he was serious. Just not very interesting until he found the comedy jobber gimmick
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no respect for the living tag team legends the dynamic duo al snow and
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Drop Mick on CM Punk's last days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bneb9h3qtmk
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New Death Tour Doco coming out at Slam Dance looks more highly produced than others (talking heads include Kenny Omega and Jericho) https://vimeo.com/901298689
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Dark Side of the Ring season 5 has ten episodes and premieres on March 5th: https://twitter.com/DarkSideOfRing/status/1750209928101249112 The topics are: The Sandman Earthquake Harley Race Buff Bagwell Brutus Beefcake Chris Adams Sensational Sherri Terry Gordy Black Saturday Chris Colt
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Reminds me that we still need to finish season 4. I think we only saw a few episodes of that one since it wasn’t available to us on any streaming platform after we canceled YouTube TV.
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looking forward to the harley race one, I don’t know much about him but they made him look pretty interesting in the iron claw (which btw I was very glad to have seen the von erich dsotr episode beforehand for)
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davidbix posted:Dark Side of the Ring season 5 has ten episodes and premieres on March 5th: Some great stuff here. I mentioned this in the podcast thread but I have a request: please make sure the Buff Bagwell episode mentions my favorite Observer story ever, covering Buff's all-time greatest promo. quote:World Championship Wrestling had what was on paper its most successful weekend in at least a year, drawing three consecutive sellouts, largely with very enthusiastic fans in the United Kingdom. The reaction to the shows by the time they were over was typical of the WCW Shoot Yourself in the Foot Tour 2000. The main events all three nights were a disappointment. On the first night, they used Ric Flair vs. Curt Hennig on top. They had a good technical match that the crowd wasn't into, with lots of 'Goldberg' chants. After the match, Luger and Elizabeth did a run-in, leaving Bagwell to make the save and the show actually ended with Bagwell in the ring with his music playing, saying 'You didn't get Goldberg and you didn't get Sting, but you got Buff and he's the stuff.' Needless to say, the interview wasn't exactly well received by the audience.
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Deathlove posted:Man, I'd never heard of Chris Colt but oof. The story there is that he dropped acid before a cage match and started hallucinating in the ring. Colt was an interesting guy for sure, and it's hilarious listening to guys like Corny praise him because he was active in the 1970s when they all hate guys like that now.
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Earthquake John Tenta seems an odd one, not for a doc but for Dark Side as he's pretty much universally beloved. I guess it could be on how he was treated. Maybe they'll go into his sumo career. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-NpBn-qP_k Oh wait this just reminded me that Tenta shot on Koji Kitao that one time because Kitao was being a fuckwit/being Koji Kitao.
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Lid posted:Earthquake John Tenta seems an odd one, not for a doc but for Dark Side as he's pretty much universally beloved. I guess it could be on how he was treated. Maybe they'll go into his sumo career. I had a similar thought. This seems like the least dark season of dark side on paper. I guess you run out of true horror stories after a while, though.
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Yeah the Earthquake one is the only episode that I'm genuinely curious what it's going to be about, he died young and was in a hosed up era but everything I've ever heard about him was him being a universally beloved great guy
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It could be like the Candido episode, just a neat spotlight on a wrestler who died way too young and never got the fair shake he should have. Maybe dive into the Golga character. Hopefully they can get ICP on it.
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Well Candido did die young but given he was with Sunny and all the drama that entailed it was going Dark Side.
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Ganso Bomb posted:I had a similar thought. This seems like the least dark season of dark side on paper. I guess you run out of true horror stories after a while, though. Different strokes for different folks, but I very much prefer the "drat, wasn't that crazy" type episodes (Brawl for All, Bash at the Beach 2000) vs. stuff like Grizzly Smith or the Graham family so I'm ok with this. Too hard to watch the latter. post hole digger fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jan 24, 2024 |
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post hole digger posted:Different strokes for different folks, but I very much prefer the "drat, wasn't that crazy" type episodes (Brawl for All, Bash at the Beach 2000) vs. stuff like Grizzly Smith or the Graham family so I'm ok with this. Too hard to watch the latter. Oh yeah, I don’t need it to go full darkness or anything. Crazy stories are also fun. But a lot of these seem like standard wrestling stories (was a star, died young, maybe had a drug problem, etc.), including The Sandman who I’m sure has crazy poo poo to talk about but is also still alive which is kind interesting for this series.
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Lid posted:Earthquake John Tenta seems an odd one, not for a doc but for Dark Side as he's pretty much universally beloved. I guess it could be on how he was treated. Maybe they'll go into his sumo career. He died of cancer sadly so I imagine it’ll be a sad story of a beloved guy who died too soon.
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I wanna see the X-rays of Brutus Beefcake's skull after he got wrecked by that parasailer. Morbid curiosity
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apophenium posted:I wanna see the X-rays of Brutus Beefcake's skull after he got wrecked by that parasailer. Morbid curiosity Just hit a super attack in a recent Mortal Kombat game.
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fart blood posted:He died of cancer sadly so I imagine it’ll be a sad story of a beloved guy who died too soon. John Tenta used to make some posts on the Wrestlecrap boards, IIIRC, and towards the end he was talking about taking mangosteen juice as treatment (it was falsely marketed as such), which was just really sad.
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I love Dark Side of the Ring but would definitely appreciate less episodes focused on wrestlers who died young. More Bash at the Beach 2000 type episodes would be super cool. No, I have don’t have any ideas for what those could be. Heroes of Wrestling, maybe?
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Do an episode on Dixie Carter loving Vince Russo so much she was willing to sink A TV partnership with Spike to keep him as an advisor or whatever his role was. Also do an episode on the psychotic assault of Larry The Dog by the dangerous Young Bucks There's probably an entire season worth of material on IWA Mid South
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Lid posted:Earthquake John Tenta seems an odd one, not for a doc but for Dark Side as he's pretty much universally beloved. I guess it could be on how he was treated. Maybe they'll go into his sumo career. I think Tenta is just one of those "''Dark Side of the Ring' is just a name" episodes that serves as a reminder of how the original idea was basically "shoot interviews, but with real documentary production values" and DSotR was just a name that Evan's mom came up with. The "Dark Side" is simply that he was a beloved guy who died young due to cancer and the show is an opportunity to profile him as someone who deserves that spotlight. It jumps out as weird in a pair of seasons that have been so heavy on episodes that felt dominated by addiction stories, but I get why they did it. I don't say this because I worked on the first half of season 3 — it does give me some additional insight, but that's it — but it really does feel like seasons 2 and 3 were the overall peak of the series. The figured out what they did wrong in S1 with the tonal issues and bad editing, and those two seasons are littered with a wide variety of topics that are really well executed. The Benoit two-parter may genuinely be the best documentary ever made about pro wrestling. New Jack, Brawl for All, David Schultz, Herb Abrams, Nick Gage, North Korea, FMW, XPW, and Johnny K-9 were full of crazy poo poo but with a lot of genuine tragedy and sadness mixed in, too. Snuka and Bravo added to our understandings of what happened. The steroid trials episode is an incredible accomplishment in editing where I was genuinely amazed they were able to fit as much as they did into a regular 42 minute episode. We gained far better understandings of Luna Vachon, Grizzly Smith’s family, everything Kanyon went through, etc. from those episodes. Plane Ride from Hell was a massive risk to take knowing how people might take it, but it was highly requested by viewers (who didn’t realize what they were asking for) and the only real way to do it was the way they actually did it. Etc etc etc. S4 had some absolute gems at the level of S2 and S3, namely Grahams, Adrian Adonis, Marty Jannetty, and Junkyard Dog. But the other episodes feel like something shifted after S3. Most people would probably blame the Plane Ride from Hell episode fallout if they had to guess, but I genuinely have no idea if that's the case. S5 is heavy on the addiction stories again, but it feels like they picked a lot more carefully than in S4, so I'm bullish. The Sandman has the angle of how his substance abuse was part of his gimmick. Buff Bagwell nearly died after breaking his neck in the ring and that's probably a significant part of the episode. Brutus Beefcake probably has some addiction story aspects (he caused an anthrax scare with his cocaine stash, after all) but is probably focused heavily on his accident. Chris Adams underwent a level of personality change when he drank that was extreme even relative to those covered on this show. Sherri was a GOAT tier performer whose career was marred by terrible timing and her addiction issues, plus there's probably a LOT more to examine with her death than people realize. (Different family members who were present gave VERY different accounts of how she died, IIRC, with one saying she died in her sleep and the other saying she collapsed drinking coffee or tea on her front porch. And I don't think there's ever been much follow-up reporting on that.) Terry Gordy overdosed twice and was clinically dead before being revived and continuing to wrestle despite suffering severe brain damage. And Chris Colt has a LOT to mine beyond his addictions (being openly gay in wrestling in the 1960s-1980s, being HIV+ in the 1980s and continuing to wrestle, his pivot to gay porn, his steep decline after Ron Dupree died even though I'm not sure they were a couple anymore, etc.) even if his substance use is part of the story that's going to make those who have never heard of him want to watch the episode. (It doesn't get much crazier than taking LSD before a cage match, tripping balls so hard that he saw giant glowing spiders climbing the cage, and then starting a riot.) So...again, I'm bullish. It seems like there's a lot more to work with among these names than there was with, say, Bam Bam Bigelow or the weirdly sanitized Matt Borne episode. Here's to hoping the runtime doesn't shortchange any of them like it did Chris and Tammy, though.
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Sandman McMahon posted:I love Dark Side of the Ring but would definitely appreciate less episodes focused on wrestlers who died young. More Bash at the Beach 2000 type episodes would be super cool. No, I have don’t have any ideas for what those could be. They should do an episode on the "ransom tape" made by wrestlers to threaten promoters into better conditions https://www.reddit.com/r/ObscureMedia/comments/ko2xbj/plan_b_tape_1979_a_tape_made_by_prowrestlers/
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Lid posted:Earthquake John Tenta seems an odd one, not for a doc but for Dark Side as he's pretty much universally beloved. I guess it could be on how he was treated. Maybe they'll go into his sumo career. They’re going to cover the horrible story of earthquake first crushing hulk hogan, and then crushing Damien when feuding with Jake the snake Bah gawd, he sat on the hulkster
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Sandman McMahon posted:I love Dark Side of the Ring but would definitely appreciate less episodes focused on wrestlers who died young. More Bash at the Beach 2000 type episodes would be super cool. No, I have don’t have any ideas for what those could be. I feel like they could do a stupendous two-parter on just how utterly bugnuts crazy ECW was behind the scenes under Paul Heyman's leadership. And there's probably a good documentary telling the story of CHIKARA that could be made.
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rotinaj posted:They’re going to cover the horrible story of earthquake first crushing hulk hogan, and then crushing Damien when feuding with Jake the snake Don't forget crushing the Warrior in his first ever appearance as 'Big John.' Came out of the crowd as a 'fan' and everything. Really good stuff.
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I wish Jason Eisener was able to go full body horror because I'm looking forward to some of the reenactments this season, particularly Colt hallucinating spiders and Beefcake getting his face broken.
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Dawgstar posted:Don't forget crushing the Warrior in his first ever appearance as 'Big John.' Came out of the crowd as a 'fan' and everything. Really good stuff. That was so much fun especially because he just looks like a nice uncle
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davidbix posted:And Chris Colt has a LOT to mine beyond his addictions (being openly gay in wrestling in the 1960s-1980s, being HIV+ in the 1980s and continuing to wrestle, his pivot to gay porn, his steep decline after Ron Dupree died even though I'm not sure they were a couple anymore, etc.) even if his substance use is part of the story that's going to make those who have never heard of him want to watch the episode. (It doesn't get much crazier than taking LSD before a cage match, tripping balls so hard that he saw giant glowing spiders climbing the cage, and then starting a riot.) I've never heard of him and his story sounds fascinating. I think my favorite episodes were Gino Hernandez and Dino Bravo, both had just a ton of information I had no knowledge of.
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Suleman posted:John Tenta used to make some posts on the Wrestlecrap boards, IIIRC, and towards the end he was talking about taking mangosteen juice as treatment (it was falsely marketed as such), which was just really sad. So you're saying Lowtax killed John Tenta.
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PaybackJack posted:So you're saying Lowtax killed John Tenta. ...Lowtax was affiliated with Wrestlecrap?
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