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Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Hippie Hedgehog posted:

Yeah, that’s another part of it. Even if you eliminated the 5-day policy, though, a lot of workers would keep showing up at work too soon because they need the money.

Hell, that's how most Retail, fast food and teaching jobs have been operating for years.

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Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Fur20 posted:

because high absentee rates reflects poorly on the superintendent, and those in administrative positions can't afford to lose their cushy appointments on account of their only other actual skill aside from bullshitting and yes-manning is burger flipping

The wire touched on this almost two decades ago. Nothing has changed post COVID.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ogxZxu6cjM

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Yeah, Covid induced ED is a completely different beast.

Not even Viagra helps

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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It appears that the Netherlands players have come down with flu like symptoms.

This is the dumbest pandemic.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Capitalism always finds a way to squeeze a profit out of any situation. :blessed:


Well, yea. Paxlovid and the vaccines are gonna go up in price next year.

The elites private tutors aren't cheap!

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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The only places on the internet that are even treating the pandemic seriously are the CSPAM thread, various Facebook groups and Twitter accounts, and some select subreddits.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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CaptainSarcastic posted:

You missed out this thread, which you are posting in. :confused:

Yeah, but some posters down play COVID here from time to time.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Gonna be cool and good when masking is de facto banned in about two years

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Quackles posted:

Come again?

Next republican president.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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https://twitter.com/cynthiaccox/status/1620197157457494017?s=20&t=K5lroWFuuGC0-SdnDLW39w

Essentially, research and grants towards new variants and vaccines will cease, vaccines and antivirals will have a cost, and tons of people are gonna get kicked off Medicaid.

Cool,cool.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Does Paxlovid have any signs of waning effectiveness?

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Strong Sauce posted:

just saw a day in the life tiktok of a woman in hangzhou saying everyone's out and about because covid's over(???)

the only comment that challenged the take in the comments.. someone replied, "have you heard of herd immunity :smug: ??"

nevermind that while china is more vaccinated than the US, most people only had their first two shots of the not as effective sino vaccines.

Yeah, the government is pushing that the wave has passed and China has herd immunity for now. There is also no access to Paxlovid and people on the street are masking less and less.

The state will be damned than let reinfection or long covid in China get reported on.

E: hell, there are tons of folks in China who believe that COVID is a one and done deal.

Okuteru fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Feb 5, 2023

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Strong Sauce posted:

is the black market for paxlovid still high? i remember reading that when they got rid of their zero covid policies

Right now, you can only get pax if you are over 60 (or have connections to the Party). I know you can get Indian antivirals, but they got a grip.

I am not looking forward to being told COVID is over by my coworkers because I mask in a week.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Snowglobe of Doom posted:

They saw that the US was pretending that covid was over (even though it obviously wasn't) and went "Wait, you can just do that? Aw poo poo, open up the borders"

It helped that Zero COVID was waning against Omicron and Foxconn/Apple gave the CCP the College of Corporations speech from the movie Network.

E: the protests last December as well as seeing the world cup with attendees not wearing masks didn't help either.

Okuteru fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Feb 6, 2023

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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What was your diet during your COVID bout?

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Strong Sauce posted:

dude who wrote the original WSJ article CNN uses as a source is the coauthor w/ judith miller on articles about wmds

About as expected. It's like how the author behind the Cockrane Review on masks, which claims that masks are useless against disease, is an antivaxxer with ties to a libertarian think tank, which helped author the Great Barrington Declaration (basically a letter to government officials advocating for herd immunity).

It sounds like a conspiracy theory, but goddamn.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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CaptainSarcastic posted:

Something I said to someone the other day is that I have a hard time understanding how people over a certain age can fall prey to anti-mask bullshit when we all watched M*A*S*H, St. Elsewhere, and a metric fuckton of medical procedurals that followed after that. What do you see surgeons do? WASH THEIR HANDS AND WEAR A MASK! The idiocy of people who just blow past all that conditioning is staggering.

I wear a mask most of the time, still, and it is required in my workplace. I have a selection of masks to choose from, from pretty protective to extremely protective, depending on circumstances. The average person gallivanting about with no mask at all just seems like pointless Russian roulette to me.

There are doctors more than happy to tow the line on everything going back to "normal", especially with the government officially giving up the ghost on COVID, more than they already have, in May.

It reminds me of the Dollop episode on Joseph Lister, a British physician who discovered that basic hygiene and antiseptic procedures would greatly decrease the mortality rate of his patients. His colleagues were hostile to his ideas because, apparently, doctors like their status quo.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Haven't gotten it yet. I'm in China, which has adopted the herd immunity "Covid is Over*" shtick. People are still masking, but most expats are not. I'm the only one still wearing a n95 every time I step out my front door. I also got my hands on enovid spray, which I think helps.

There is an influenza wave going around, which the CDC has dismissed as "immunity debt".

In a lot of ways, the US and China are more alike than either party wants to admit.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Colonel Cancer posted:

I can't believe the power of horsey paste lobby

There's always an Alan Krumwiede from Contagion somewhere.



Oracle posted:

All that extra ivermectin needs to get sold somehow and Covid is over so no one’s taking it for that anymore.

Ivermectin has been promoted as a miracle cure WAY before the pandemic. Its use is not limited to COVID treatment. It has also been promoted as treatment for Down's Syndrome and Autism.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkayeg/ivermectin-kids-autism

Okuteru fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Mar 29, 2023

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Scarodactyl posted:

He's been for sale for a very long time.

Most reactionaries are. It's grifts all the way down.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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So China recently announced that they are disturbing their version of mRNA vaccines, but they're not the bivalent ones.

The American embassy announces if you're looking for the bivalent booster, your best bet would be to go to Macau or Singapore and get it there. Very cool, thank you US government.

Aren't the bivalent vaccines outdated at this point anyway?

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Yeah, Twitter might be your best bet in regards to getting COVID numbers.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Doesn't Walgreens, the pharmacy chain, have a covid tracker as well?

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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This is coming on the heels of the US investing in the vaccine again (which few will get due to cost and the messaging thar Covid is Over*)

https://twitter.com/mattbc/status/1645524997946089472?t=JnXxGBcueIycfcyqCP69Pw&s=19

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Bad Purchase posted:

and surely these publicly funded vaccines will be free for all, or at least sold at manufacturing cost

Last I heard, the estimate after all emergencies end is about $100 a pop.



Gio posted:

mentioed it before but my wife is pregnant with mo-di twins (single placenta) which makes her pregnancy high risk, necessitating weekly scans. everything is good but today the woman checking us in for our ultrasound appointment felt the need to remind us the mask policy had changed and we didnt need to wear our masks.

“yeah we got the memo, thanks.”

i just dont understand the motivation, like i get the feeling this woman thought she was helping us by trying to get us to take off our masks when my wife is scheduled to deliver premature* twins in two weeks.

*34 weeks and change

It's a combination of trying to power through the belief that COVID is truly gone because of no masks and the cognitive dissonance of seeing someone wear a mask with that same belief.

Everyone has turned into an a angrier version of the lady from Avatar: the last Airbender. The one who says that there is No War in Ba Sing Se.

Okuteru fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Apr 12, 2023

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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That's still like 5% or so of the population being infected a week.

My colleagues, students and people I know across China are getting picked off one by one.

I'm in Shanghai. People are still masking in the tube, in hospitals and most service workers wear masks, but numbers are abysmal.

Paxlovid is available, but you need to be over the age 60 or immunocompromised.

The only other ways to get it is if a) you're a CCP member or b) find some shady contact where you pay am exorbitant amount for a product you may not even receive

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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All conspiracies lead to Zionism.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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deep dish peat moss posted:

They absolutely did, they also had large anti-mask moments and pretty much every other dumb thing this one did.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Mask_League_of_San_Francisco

The Great Influenza is a great book that shows us we were this dumb about global pandemics about 100 years ago.

tango alpha delta posted:

guys, guys,guys, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but COVID is totally just a scam by Ronald McDonald/The CIA/Blue from Blues Clues/The Jews/Take Your Pick for Today's Latest Scapegoat.

The American cognitive dissonance about Covid being just another form of the Flu as well as a bespoke Chinese Bioweapon that justifies hostility towards them astounds me.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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From the CSPAM COVID thread.


Welp. Gonna be a lot more folks taking ivermectin whenever they get got now.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Cowslips Warren posted:

The weather being so loving cold here, it would be logical to wear a goddamn mask for warmth if nothing else.

Dude at work keeps laughing in his side way that I wear a mask all the time and don't eat anything from the break room. He says he got the first vaccine and no others cause there's no point, and no flu shots cause he got the flu after. Married to a nurse, of course.

I miss the days of not masking.

Medical professionals and their relatives being idiots about their profession will always astound me.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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CaptainCrunch posted:

My dad got Covid in late October, got Pax, rested and recovered. He got it AGAIN in early December. This time he ended up with a bumper crop of pulmonary embolisms. Doc put him on warfarin and through Xmas he was on the mend.

I buried him this morning. The PEs never stopped coming. Yes, there were other health issues. But it was a PE that finished the job.

I am so sorry

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Haven't heard of any books like that, but new editions of The Great Influenza, which covers the Spanish Flu of 1918 - 1920, has an intro about COVID-19.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Senor P. posted:

Do we have a long covid thread somewhere?

Or is this it?

Not on this site, but if you are willing to stand it, there is a subreddit for long COVID out there.

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Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

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Welp, finally got it. First time, as far as I know.

Already got pax and the new booster about a month ago. That's about as much as I can do, I think.

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