Real good references to The Stand, loved it.
|
|
# ¿ May 22, 2021 07:28 |
|
|
# ¿ May 22, 2024 15:54 |
In addition, apparently the container in the opening sequence was labelled for shipping to Iran, so it's not that we were working on a potential bioweapon with alien help, but that we were done and already launching it off
|
|
# ¿ May 23, 2021 02:18 |
The REAL Goobusters posted:What’s in your head An alien cybernetic endoskull, don't you have one
|
|
# ¿ May 23, 2021 19:55 |
Plus I'm pretty sure Martin's decided to freelance the queen's head. I would probably guess the army brass in the background of Tanaka's living room probably don't actually need a zombie sample. (Unless the plan-behind-a-plan was to somehow abduct the queen to obtain leverage and control over Zeus, which only sounds plausible if the army had any actual idea what was going on in there) VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 02:05 on May 24, 2021 |
|
# ¿ May 24, 2021 01:56 |
Comrade Fakename posted:"Edgy" was probably a sillier term than I should have used, but you're the one who was claiming that Disney wouldn't allow Snyder to include elements in his films, and I ask what these too-hot controversial inclusions are? JL doesn't have anything like that, as I mentioned it's extremely straightforward, heroes unite to fight evil, with a vague theme of regaining hope after loss. What about that is too much for the MCU? My point was that if anything, JL is too simplistic for Marvel, as most of the films have something more going on, like the afro-futurism and anti-colonialism of Black Panther or the feminist themes of Captain Marvel. You want to say that those elements are pathetically weak or compromised in those films? I won't really argue but the issue is that they're going for stuff that at least approaches controversy, unlike JL which is pretty boilerplate (though generally entertaining) until the last five minutes. Black Panther is like 250% pro-colonialism. It's so pro-colonialism you had the CIA assisting with restoring the monarchy in an African nation. It's so pro-colonialism the end of the movie messaging is that colonialism is so great now that the black monarchists can do it too. It's so pro-colonialism it literally depicts the rest of Africa as bumbling wandering tribesmen who just needs civilizing influence from anyone and everyone. Considering the state of the modern world and how we got to where we are Black Panther is the absolute least transgressive MCU movie and that's SAYING A LOT. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 16:42 on May 24, 2021 |
|
# ¿ May 24, 2021 16:40 |
The other goofy best part about that sequence is it's exactly the same beat as Randall Flagg failing to catch a pregnant Nadine on her way off the top of a Vegas casino hotel
|
|
# ¿ May 24, 2021 20:29 |
The REAL Goobusters posted:Lol yeah he literally says they're all going to die as he leaves The things about these characters is ... the core team are the survivors of the actual zombie outbreak. After they survived and escaped they willingly went back into Las Vegas. Once you realize that, all expectations of rational decision making or whatever rightfully goes out the window. Each one of them acknowledge that it is more than likely they are going back to die. Tig's character's like my life sucks enough I'd rather go back to zombieville. Bautista's character is like I'm not flipping another day of burgers. Even then they joke about what it would be like if they actually did the smart thing. Tig (being the second smartest character in the movie, first being the guy who sees what they signed up for and immediately backed out) points out that they should just shiv Martin at the outset. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 23:23 on May 24, 2021 |
|
# ¿ May 24, 2021 23:21 |
Floodixor posted:I liked Tig a lot Baraka zombie apocalypse
|
|
# ¿ May 24, 2021 23:31 |
Owlofcreamcheese posted:They knew he wanted alpha blood, there is no special reason they are going to be okay if they know the mission is looking for blood but will freak out if they know they want an alpha head. Two people on the team know that there's a plan to get alpha blood, and one of the two is there to actually carry it out.
|
|
# ¿ May 25, 2021 00:05 |
John Wick of Dogs posted:The zombie apocalypse starts because of a dude getting road head They also just got married, so widely-acknowledged secret-fascist christian-scientist muscle-brain zack snyder is also against the institution of marriage. Hey I didn't make the rules, I just enforce them.
|
|
# ¿ May 25, 2021 17:56 |
SlimGoodbody posted:fundamentally change every single piece of the story you propose to be telling But it doesn't?
|
|
# ¿ May 25, 2021 21:27 |
Roth posted:Makes sense to me. The only emotion redlettermedia fans feel is being a miserable person to talk to.
|
|
# ¿ May 26, 2021 00:31 |
AreWeDrunkYet posted:Has it been brought up that no one in this group of elite badasses considered that $200m won't fit on a helicopter if they were also planning to get out of there? Especially since another recent Netflix movie (Triple Frontier) has this question of how much cash a helicopter can carry as its primary plot vehicle, it comes off as a particularly glaring oversight. Yeah, yeah, the heist was never the point, but most of the people involved signed up for the money - that they never had a way of getting out. Most of them seemed in it for the thrill or redemption and didn't ask too many questions, really. It doesn't look or sound like Bly even told them what kind of helicopter was actually up on his casino. Also consider that they all knew at the outset that the vault contained $200m, but still accepted the ridiculously small cuts Scott offered them. You could also ask exactly what kind of elite badasses they are, because Scott was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is a civilian award. Vanderohe is a physical therapist who might be moonlighting as a gigolo. Their credentials, as far as I know, were that they were lucky enough to get out of Vegas during the actual zombie outbreak, during which Scott killed his wife and brought out the Secretary of Defense.
|
|
# ¿ May 27, 2021 02:40 |
Or it's a reference to Ocean's 11, in which a group of about 8 people posing as SWAT cops brought out $150m in about a dozen duffel bags.
|
|
# ¿ May 27, 2021 02:44 |
Judakel posted:You're right. The zombie army was thinking along arbitrary boundaries like borders, state lines, or districts. There's one army in Army of the Dead and they weren't zombies (except that one guy in the intro for about 5 minutes before he decides to go AWOL)
|
|
# ¿ May 27, 2021 04:00 |
Judakel posted:Sure ok great Are they trying to grow? I mean this appears to be circular reasoning. They must be trying to escape because they're trying to grow. They must be trying to grow because they're trying to escape. But, past the initial outbreak, the movie depicts neither them actively seeking exponential growth nor does it depict them seeking escape.
|
|
# ¿ May 27, 2021 04:19 |
John Wick of Dogs posted:Also remember originally they thought they would have another 24 hours The most logical exit strategy, given the amount of time they thought they had, would be to load up the helicopter with the cash and then make their own escapes back through the container wall. Assuming they were not set up to fail.
|
|
# ¿ May 27, 2021 04:23 |
Detective No. 27 posted:It might not even cross one's mind that the zombie society is more or less content with what they have. They're not trying to expand and grow at an unsustainable rate. Zeus runs an anti-capitalistic society at heart. We see the zombies do like two things that seem to be of only their own initiative, 1 which is to create more alphas at a somewhat regulated pace, 2 which is to create live zombie births. Neither seem like strategies for overwhelming containment. They're doing something in the zombie kingdom but it's not according to genre conventions and goes against every assumption all the characters bring in (except coyote).
|
|
# ¿ May 27, 2021 04:33 |
They don't need shamblers for anything, aren't creating shamblers, and the shamblers we see are basically all dormant. To what extent would you say shamblers are a "class" in this society?
|
|
# ¿ May 27, 2021 04:52 |
No you see, obviously the point is Zack Snyder's goodwill is contingent on him not making movies at all.
|
|
# ¿ May 28, 2021 22:22 |
Wolfsheim posted:"Netflix announces people love our Netflix originals and no one even cared that they lost the office and friends" I didn't care But I also am not directly paying for my Netflix account
|
|
# ¿ May 29, 2021 16:32 |
John Wick of Dogs posted:The most nihilistic thing about the movie is that politically and in terms of people's lives the difference between our world and a world in which zombies destroyed a major American city is negligible. TBF about as many people live in Las Vegas as have died from covid-19 in the US.
|
|
# ¿ Jun 1, 2021 17:34 |
|
|
# ¿ May 22, 2024 15:54 |
Akira or Half-Life
|
|
# ¿ Jun 2, 2021 00:02 |