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EDIT: Army of Thieves, a film set during the outbreak of the zombie-virus in New Vegas, is going to be released on Netflix on October 29th. Directed by Mathias Schweighöfer and produced by the Snyders, it focuses on the safe-cracker (lol) Deiter being recruited into a heist team to try and crack the siblings to the Gotdammarung safe we see in Army of the dead. Here's a trailer for that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ith2WetKXlg End edit Fresh of the magnificent tour de force that was Zack Snyders Justice League on HBO max, Zack is coming out with his next Zombie film, Army of the Dead. Coming on netflix on May 21st or in select theaters on May 14th (check your local theatres, zombie fans), it marks the return to the genre for Zack. His first film was famously Dawn of the dead, a remake of Romeros film with the same title, starting a long and time honored tradition of Zacks films pissing off hardcore nerds. Army of the dead is a heist zombie movie. Starring Dave Bautista, gets hired to assemble a team to break into a vault in Las Vegas. The catch is that Vegas is ground zero for a Zombie virus outbreak, and it's walled off and scheduled to be nuked in a few days time, so Bautista and his team have to get in and out before they reenact Fallout: New Vegas. Part heist movie, part zombie flick, part action, Zack himself said that this is a "genre busting film". McCloud fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Oct 24, 2021 |
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Oh, I also forgot to mention that there's two spinoffs to AOTD coming. Army of Thieves, a prequel to AOTD, is a german-american production, directed by Matthias Schweighöfer (who also stars in AOTD) and produced by Zack and Debbie Snyder. There's also going to be an anime series, showing the fall of Las Vegas, appropriately called Army of the dead: Lost Vegas
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I saw it, it owns. Going to bed, gonna post my thoughts when I'm at work
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May 21, 2021 10:43
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Some thoughts I liked that the president wanted to nuke Vegas on the 4th of july because "It would be really cool", and "totally american if you think about it". Not exactly subtle there. Also the way the "zombie camps" basically turned into concentration camps for immigrants and political dissidents was about as subtle as a sledgehammer, Polticising a plague would have felt way more satirical pre-covid than it does today though, that's for sure. It's also funny how greed and selfishness hosed so many people over. The PMC guy hosed over everyone when he stole the Queens head, the german and the saw guy got hosed over when they went back for the money, the daughter hosed over her dad and the pilot by obssessively hunting for the mom who ended up dying anyway, the twitch dude got hosed over because he was carrying his weight in money, like they constantly overreach and end up getting karmically hosed for it. The Zombies are minding their own business when these yahoos come in, break their rules and murder their pregnant queen. The zombies just wanna be left alone man. There's probably some interesting parallels there with how they're arguably coded as minorities and outcasts trying to carve out a space of their own only to be cruelly violated because an imperialistic force wants something they have. It's also not afraid to get weird. The time loop discussion was out of the left field, and apparently there were some robot zombies there too, which is really funny. Some of the deaths were actually pretty shocking. Daves love interest getting Zod'd right in front of him was actually gruesome and a shocking twist 
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Lol at calling the action "pedestrian". Not everything needs to be a big drat twist, a well executed story is preferable to having a twist for the twists sake, and I think this movie delivered on that.
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CelticPredator posted:No. there was closure She died in the crash. The dumbass daughter got everyone killed for nothing. Good job, idiot. Also something I just realized, when dieter talks about death and rebirth, that presages his death and Vans rebirth as an alpha zombie
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Caros posted:So it's a minor thing,but how fast is that undead horse? Zeus is basically a zombie superhero He even had a cape Semi-related, but Zeus, The Alpha, ascended from Olympus to fight those that would steal the fire of the gods. He met Vanderhoe, The Omega, in front of the Gotterdammerung, which means Twilight of the Gods, or doomsday, or Ragnarok, which ever you prefer. Dieter says it symbolizes death, and Rebirth. Zeus dies, Vanderhoe emerges from the depths of the Underworld, or Tartarus, after Ragnarok, reborn into something new
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fart simpson posted:i recommend dont read any zack snyder movie threads in this subforum op. i feel the same as you, snyder threads in here are like a window into an alternate universe A far better universe for sure
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May 22, 2021 15:53
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fart simpson posted:yeah but what i really mean is, i don't have any friends or know any people irl that like his style. that's why these threads seem so weird to me Get friends with better taste 
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May 22, 2021 16:37
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smellmycheese posted:At the risk of nitpicking I’m going to say I think it suffers from Snyder not being able to get rights from the A List casinos. It all adds to the lack of any actual Las Vegas feel to a film about a zombie heist in Las Vegas ( bar one perfunctory shootout in a set full of slot machines) There is absolutely a reason they called the casino The Olympus, considering the head Zombie Alpha is literally called Zeus, wears a cape and is loving bulletproof. Regarding buttery pastries suspension of disbelief, while I don't really agree with him that it's an issue in this film for me, I can also understand that it might be a bit annoying for others. For me films are a narrative story and I don't consider Zeus being at the right place at the right time to be particularly jarring, but it's fair if someone does find issue with that
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Thr Snyder fans do it again https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1396114780016975872?s=19
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ReidRansom posted:Miley Cyrus covering Zombie is extremely offensive, especially doing it in an Irish accent seriously what the gently caress. What are you talking about
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ReidRansom posted:Song at/near the end of the movie. Just awful and bad. That song was by the Cranberries. I have no idea why you'd think it's Cyrus singing
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NieR Occomata posted:
Hot take: Movies should be exactly as long as they need to be, and putting arbitrary time limits on films is dumb as hell. Mormon Star Wars posted:Martin does lie to the smuggler that he just needs a vial of the blood, but then reveals that he actually needs a living zombie because the blood is useless without the living zombie. Sometimes the whole movie literacy thing is a bit difficult for certain people. It's why Nolan always has an exposition guy that literally explains the plot at the audience McCloud fucked around with this message at 10:38 on May 24, 2021 |
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Yeah, there's a lot of small details that all add to the story, like the US government is nuking its own city on 4th of july (because it's cool), them willing to recklessly expose Iran to the virus, them having concentration camps for political dissidents, and certain elements in the military still considering it a viable weapon after what happened to Vegas, you have Scotts team, all of which are either poor lower class or military veterans with PTSD or both, invading a sovereign city state (it's to plunder their resources, for the sake of enriching an already wealthy rear end in a top hat billionaire. Also the only one of the team that makes it out alive is the one person who was in it for non-selfish reasons, everyone else gets killed because of greed and/or selfishness. So while I think this film can be enjoyed well enough on its own I think the little details, commentary and the neat little mythological references make it more than just a "turn your brain off action film" The REAL Goobusters posted:Can you tell me which marvel movies are “edgier” Their first black superhero film gave the CIA a pat on the back, that was pretty edgy lol
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Nothing less edgy than being extremely establishment. That's actually true. Uh, how about when they accidentally (hopefully) made Malthusians lovely ideas popular again?
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May 24, 2021 11:54
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Being angry about Spicey boy receiving a paycheck is understandable, but I think having him on and then putting him and his parties politics on full blast is worth it. And it's nice that we actually have a big blockbuster film coming out as saying ICE is full of abusive fascists
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Detective No. 27 posted:Someday you will find a plot hole free zombie movie with super genius rational characters. or any horror movie
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May 24, 2021 22:04
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McCloud posted:Zeus is basically a zombie superhero
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2house2fly posted:If you hire a bunch of guys to steal a top-secret bioweapon for you, then what you now have is a bunch of guys who know you want a top-secret bioweapon. If they succeed then what you have is a bunch of guys who know you have a top-secret bioweapon. No bueno. Also the more people who know you have a top secret bioweapon the more likely someone gets the bright idea to sell it to someone else for more money.
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STAC Goat posted:I think the implication of the film is supposed to be that the tiger and alpha army make traveling through the city precarious. So theoretically there's some explanation where Tanaka and Martin were at a place where they felt the only play was this elaborate con as cover to facilitate their way in and then hoping Martin can pull off a double cross and fly out. So the theoretical answer to "why not send a team in for the head?" or "why not just leave the way you came in?" is "can't get past the zombie tiger army." Hence them "having" to travel indoors and Martin getting eaten. Martin and Coyote go out and wrestle a few lonesome zombies after luring them with gunshots, because of the truce that Coyote bought them. When Zeus finds out about what happened he rings the warhorn and orders everyone to murder the hell out of them for their crime. Kate is able to get her way to Olympus because every single zombie heard Zeus's call to action and are converging on the safe. Coyote, whose a trickster in native american myth, is constantly lying. She's not about to admit to kate that she tossed a sacrifical goat to the zombies every time she goes in. POWELL CURES KIDS posted:Well, is it clear that there's a reason? He turns that dipshit ICE agent immediately. Is he just waiting for, like, "physically worthy" people to get the bite? If so, then why did he bite the Queen, since she's pretty scrawny? Just to breed? But then he did go after her head, so maybe he loved her after all. He seems to be getting some kind of sadistic pleasure out of toying with the women he's got captured. Maybe it's sexual? But we already know of at least one person who escaped from there, and it was a guy--maybe Zeus is bisexual. Or on a fasted interval diet. I think the zombie culture is inscrutable by design. We're not supposed to know the ins and outs of how they think or how they create alphas or what the significance of their little rituals are, at least not yet. As for what they represent It's basically a sovereign kingdom with a foreign culture whose heads of states are assassinated, and then the land looted and nuked. the inhabitants are honest and tolerant of outsiders until their rules are broken. Normally I'd say that's a stand in for pretty much any land that's befallen victim of an imperialist nation, but then again their nation is cloaked in american excess and iconography of US landmarks. You got elvis zombies and the statue of liberty right there, implying that even the citizens of a colonial empire are victims to the horrible effects of capitalism. After all, the only one to come out of the whole disaster unscathed was the vulture billionaire.
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SlimGoodbody posted:This interpretation is fun, but I don't think there was anything in the film to justify it. She's a habitual liar. She lies and tricks everyone at some point. She tricks the zombies, she tricks martin, she tricks the Ice guy, she's clearly done some unsavoury stuff because she's seeking penance (hence her deal with martin), i think it's a reasonable inference. As for the mythological aspects, there's stuff from Greek, German and Norwegian myths, i don't see why native American should be off limits. Also another meaning for Coyote is someone smuggling in illegals across the Mexican border
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Goatstein posted:Have you guys ever considered that the apparent lapses in logic are maybe because this is a zombie movie starring a wrestler directed by a moron Thank you, cinemasins guy
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Yeah I think it's a fun and cool thing. Alien virus, robot zombies, time loops, it gets weird and I love it. Not everything has to fit into one neat little package. Anyway enough with nerds being nitpicky, have some Zack Snyder working out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TnqYmaxAdw
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Piell posted:Its not a heist movie, is the thing that annoys me. It took the simplest 3 word concept of a heist movie of "people want thing" and a couple half hearted stabs at heist movie things (the elaborate model to plan, the eccentric safecracker) and then just did nothing with it. There's no elaborate plan, there's no group of people using their special skills to overcome the defenses. They go to the vault, the safe cracker opens it, they're done. No fun stuff allowed Deiter used his skills to open the safe, Tig fixes the helicopter, Coyote helps them navigate the strange land, Scott is the field leader and field leads, they absolutely use their skills to circumnavigate obstacles Also it's funny that in the space of like 10 posts the complaints went from "why is there these weird timeloop things that don't add to the story" to " why is there no fun allowed?!"
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Also big lol at the "no one emotes" person
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SlimGoodbody posted:I don't know if you guys keep lolno-ing people's valid and well explained critiques, which have been frequently raised by numerous people, out of bad faith trolling or if you literally don't understand that you're constantly doing it every time anything about this director's projects come up, it's moved beyond frustrating and into the realm of anthropological fascination. Like it's literally the firmament of the thing that happens in every thread where the director comes up and then you feel slighted because everyone is accusing you of saying "if you didn't like Snyder's masterpiece it's because you weren't smart enough to understand the huge brain geniusness of it all and actually anything you think could be lacking in it is actually there and good or if it's not there it's also good and that's why it's good." But you're doing it. This is the thing, happening, currently. The opposite side of the "You just didn't like the masterpiece cause you didn't get it" coin is the equally smug and obnoxious "You guys are stupid for enjoying this piece of crap and are reading way too much into it because, I, the savvy movie understander, have determined it's a dumb film"
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Guy A. Person posted:I was going to explain to you how a message board works but instead i'll just suggest you gently caress off with this constant, insufferable whining about Snyder fans
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When Lynch does it, it is with purpose and intent. When Zsck does it it's totally by accident because he's a hack -Galaxybrain Thingreatkid
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SlimGoodbody posted:yeah bitch Lmao baby mad
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Shageletic posted:Why do we gotta attack ppl? Its just a movie. If certain people want to be obnoxious we'll happily return the favor. As the old saying goes, don't start none there won't be none
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I don’t mean technologically, I mean it’s a movie where nothing matters and you can easily put a new actor with new lines in a scene they weren’t filmed in and it doesn’t matter much or affect anything. There weren't new lines, it was, afik, the same dialogue, so of course it wont affect anything
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I feel like there is a lot of movies you can’t just slot new people in interchangeably! Uh, sure you can? If you keep all the dialogue the same, why wouldn't you be able to do that? What exactly do you think is the big difference?
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May 26, 2021 02:38
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ICYMI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_BYvI1GuXw Zacks breaks down his title sequences
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I wonder what it is about Snyder that compels dipshits who normally never visit CineD to come in and grace us with their opinions. It's fascinating
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That's an excellent post, Powell, thank you for the effort
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2house2fly posted:Huh, it just occurred to me that becoming a zombie means dying and being reborn in another form... no longer exactly human, immortal, with strange abilities... Again I keep thinking of Dieters lines about crossing in to another world, death and rebirth. SMGs line about alphas being transitional is similar to the ideas i seen that maybe Van is in the process of becoming the end product, an entirely new being, but I guess we'll see
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No it's the just the one trainwreck that derailed into smaller trainwrecks. It wasn't even a critic, it was a failed film editor with a grudge against Snyder who tried to use Kurosawa to dunk on Snyder by proxy and it just phenomenally blew up in her face
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